We have a right to see Khadr tapes
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That's not what they found at all.
in January 2010, the Court found that Khadr’s Charter rights had been violated by virtue of Canada’s participation in the regime of torture and imprisonment at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Despite this finding, though, the Supreme Court overturned Federal Court and Federal Court of Appeal rulings that ordered the government to request Khadr’s immediate return.
Basing the need for deference on the executive’s prerogative powers over foreign affairs, the Supreme Court decided to leave it to the federal government to determine how best to remedy the Charter breach.
http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/07/31/the-supreme-court-is-culpable-in-the-omar-khadr-case/
If a Canadian's charter rights stop at the border, then how is it possible the government could violate Khadr's charter rights in Gitmo (outside of Canada)? So you are clearly wrong. Also, the SCoC hammered the Canadian government for its participation in torturing a 15 year old Canadian citizen.
While Canadian law stops at the border, our government's obligations to its citizens abroad thankfully does not, even if you disagree. Canadians who travel abroad (like myself), should take comfort knowing that the Canadian government will represent our interests if we are detained by a foreign government. The foreign government has no obligation to uphold our Charter rights of course, but our government has a duty to insist Canadians abroad are treated fairly and in accordance with international law. In this case, not only did the Canadian government not insist that Khadr be treated as a child soldier, they "participated in the regime of torture and imprisonment". That the SCoC description of the Canadian government's actions... which Canadians should find both shocking and disgusting... BTW, the government of the day was the Liberals, not the Conservatives.
You must have missed where I wrote that I support keeping Khadr locked up until he is deemed safe by a qualified person.
Also you just labelled an entire group of people of people as evil after saying that you don't do that... but I understand your point.
I don't support al Qaeda either or their brand of religious extremism and intolerance.I condemn all attacks against civilians as war crimes. 9/11 was a war crime and the people responsible are war criminals.
I’m not exonerating Khadr for his actions. I'm defending the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms from people who believe it only applies to nice Canadians everyone likes or that the Canadian government is not obligated to respect a Canadian's charter rights when they travel abroad... that's a huge difference..
The Charter must apply equally to all Canadian citizens regardless of their actions or how we feel about certain individuals, otherwise it has no meaning. The SCoC determined that the Canadian government violated Khadr's Charter rights by "participating" in Khadr's illegal treatment. Khadr is a Canadian citizen. And every citizen is protected by the same fundamental rights, whether we despise that person or not. These rights have not been respected.
Another point which seems lost on people is the immorality of torture and torturing children. In the past the West used to condemn torture. International human rights laws which banned torture were a big step forward. I think the US has behaved barbarically. What the US does to their POWs is a disgrace and Canada should condemn the Americans for crossing this line. In Khadr's case, the Canadian government assisted the Americans in torturing a 15 year old Canadian citizen. That's shocking and disgusting...
Khadr's age should have been a factor in his treatment. That doesn't mean Khadr should not be held accountable for his actions... Khadr shouldn't be held responsible for decisions he didn't make. Khadr never decided to travel to Afghanistan and fight with al Qaeda. That decision was made by his father. Once Khadr was indoctrinated into al Qaeda, he had little choice but to fight along side them.
Charging someone with murder in the context of a war is probably not a road we'd like to travel. If we don't respect our adversary's rights as a POW, then we should expect that our adversaries will not respect the POW rights of Canadian soldiers.
Promises are made to be broken...especially by politicians.<br><br><br> <br>**** that! I can't speak for you, but unlike Khadr, I am not a terrorist.
I'm old fashioned when it comes to politicians and their promises. I expect to say what they mean and mean what they say. If the break their word deliberately, then I don't vote for them.
As far as know Khadr never attacked a civilian target. ; He is considered a terrorist by many because he ; He apparently helped manufacture IEDs and when his compound was attacked by American soldiers he may have fought back. While al Qaeda is an organization which has committed terrorist acts,
I can't say that anyone here is a terrorist. But I do know that many people here supported invading and occupying Iraq even though it was about large corporations seizing control of Iraq's oil wealth and had nothing to do with WMDs, 9/11 or freedom/justice for the Iraqi people.. That's just BS used to herd the sheeple and many people fell for it. That war resulted in hundreds of thousands of innocent civilian deaths, probably the equivalent of a hundred 9/11 terrorist attacks. The American government practices torture, summary execution (murder) of civilians including American citizens, using chemical weapons against civilians (White Phosphorus, depleted uranium)...
How are we better than al Qaeda again? What crimes do they commit that we don't? As far as I can tell, we've become just as cruel and barbaric as our "terrorist" adversaries....
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I wouldn't go as far as to call that a full load of bullshyte from a Dhimmi Joo-Hater but I could easily be compelled to...if someone twisted my arm...
Sorry....couldn't bring myself to repeat what I read.......
Surely, a modern day, male counterpart, of the infamous hanoi jane.:roll:
I have to disagree - Hanoi Jane had a set of nuts.
You spelled humour wrong.
I accept your complete surrender and full apology.
BTW: Thanks for proving you wrong, for me, again. lol.
You serious?8O
Let's see. We don't say that girls cannot attend school and women cannot work the majority of jobs.
We don't stone women just because they "dare" to talk to a man that they aren't related to.
We don't force women to cover their bodies so as to "prevent lust".
We (as a whole, of course there are the odd homophobic jackasses that will murder someone because they are gay, unlike the public hangings that are given to homosexual men over there) do not murder people for being homosexuals.
We don't set roadside bombs, nor do we drive a bomb-laden vehicle into a busload of civilians.
And we sure as hell don't fly ****ing planes into the sides of buildings.
There are just a FEW of the reasons why we're different than terrorists thank you very much!:roll: