We believe in the revelation to all the prophets without exception

selfsame

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Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Mohammed - salam to all of them - invited people to worship and glorify God alone without associate or peer or patron.
 

MHz

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Same way you know I'm not a bot. And no, not just to post here. There are plenty of good reasons to be as anonymous as possible online.
Okay. Good to hear. That is mostly true but I see no reason to keep my location as being in AB a big secret since some of my posts reflect what it was lake in the past and what it is like today.
Fake personality would be something I would object to rather than fibs about location. Collectives are another thing that annoys me yet I have little power to stop it so the next best thing is to not let it bother me even if I focus some un-warrented attention on it for it's entertainment value.

In this thread a stickler for details could argue that Jesus was 'just a Prophet' from when He returned from the 40 day fast in the wilderness after being baptized by John in the River Jordan and when John was put into prison. A time that included at least 1 Passover and He spoke to the Samaritan woman at the well when He was still 'just a Prophet'.
That would be something that an author would include if the book was that fine in the details of events in other places of the book. That is not something 40 strangers would include in a 'collection of unrelated texts'.

We don't have that Sermon but it would have been given in the OT version of things as the NT part didn't start until He was the High Priest also. I don't claim to know the ins and out of the Quran but some names are certainly familiar and the context of the passages would then be about Gentiles since the time of Jacob and why they were not gathered the same as the 12 Tribes were. The exodus wars saw the 12 tribes take wives from the Nations they invaded so there is no 'pure member' that has to be traced back to Abraham. The girls adopted their adopted father's or husband's history anyway. Today the wife is the parent that sets that value.

Think of it as 'plan B' as the original Church was going to lose the original message because they had no shepherds and it was written into prophecy. The flood of water was 'Plan B' if fallen angels and their 6 fingered children tried to exterminate all the 5 fingered people. Even Neb was 'Plan B' if the 12 Tribes fell into sin before the scattering in 70AD that was part of prophecy back in De:4:30

To prophecy means to foretell the future. When did Abrahaam, Moses or Mewhammed do that Selfsap?
When God first talked to Noah about a rain storm did that determine that God would create a rain 100 years in the future (to the day) or did God talk to him 100 years before nature would provide the rain needed for the flood?
I'll go with Doorr#1.

De:4:29:
But if from thence thou shalt seek the LORD thy God,
thou shalt find him,
if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul.
De:4:30:
When thou art in tribulation,
and all these things are come upon thee,
even in the latter days,
if thou turn to the LORD thy God,
and shalt be obedient unto his voice;
De:4:31:
(For the LORD thy God is a merciful God;)
he will not forsake thee,
neither destroy thee,
nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them.

Lu:24:27:
And beginning at Moses and all the prophets,
he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

We have the ability to figure what parts is being referenced so the gibberish argument doesn't work once the text is on the table.
 

Murphy

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You should take selfsame and go argue scripture with him, just the two of you, in Jerusalem. You would be doing a grwat service to Canada.
 

MHz

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Why not on a religious thread on some out of the way bulletin board?? Works for me, if you are having a hard time with it too f*cking bad. Perhaps you should get come help with that compulsive posting issue you have or whatever it is that makes you click on these types of threads.
Now that you let me know how much of a thorn in your side it is do you think I will be moving that thorn around as much as I can? Of course I will just because you are stupid enough to let out that real part of your real personality.
Please don't tell me you aren't the smart one in the family.
 

Ludlow

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Okay. Good to hear. That is mostly true but I see no reason to keep my location as being in AB a big secret since some of my posts reflect what it was lake in the past and what it is like today.
Fake personality would be something I would object to rather than fibs about location. Collectives are another thing that annoys me yet I have little power to stop it so the next best thing is to not let it bother me even if I focus some un-warrented attention on it for it's entertainment value.

In this thread a stickler for details could argue that Jesus was 'just a Prophet' from when He returned from the 40 day fast in the wilderness after being baptized by John in the River Jordan and when John was put into prison. A time that included at least 1 Passover and He spoke to the Samaritan woman at the well when He was still 'just a Prophet'.
That would be something that an author would include if the book was that fine in the details of events in other places of the book. That is not something 40 strangers would include in a 'collection of unrelated texts'.

We don't have that Sermon but it would have been given in the OT version of things as the NT part didn't start until He was the High Priest also. I don't claim to know the ins and out of the Quran but some names are certainly familiar and the context of the passages would then be about Gentiles since the time of Jacob and why they were not gathered the same as the 12 Tribes were. The exodus wars saw the 12 tribes take wives from the Nations they invaded so there is no 'pure member' that has to be traced back to Abraham. The girls adopted their adopted father's or husband's history anyway. Today the wife is the parent that sets that value.

Think of it as 'plan B' as the original Church was going to lose the original message because they had no shepherds and it was written into prophecy. The flood of water was 'Plan B' if fallen angels and their 6 fingered children tried to exterminate all the 5 fingered people. Even Neb was 'Plan B' if the 12 Tribes fell into sin before the scattering in 70AD that was part of prophecy back in De:4:30


When God first talked to Noah about a rain storm did that determine that God would create a rain 100 years in the future (to the day) or did God talk to him 100 years before nature would provide the rain needed for the flood?
I'll go with Doorr#1.

De:4:29:
But if from thence thou shalt seek the LORD thy God,
thou shalt find him,
if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul.
De:4:30:
When thou art in tribulation,
and all these things are come upon thee,
even in the latter days,
if thou turn to the LORD thy God,
and shalt be obedient unto his voice;
De:4:31:
(For the LORD thy God is a merciful God;)
he will not forsake thee,
neither destroy thee,
nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them.

Lu:24:27:
And beginning at Moses and all the prophets,
he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

We have the ability to figure what parts is being referenced so the gibberish argument doesn't work once the text is on the table.
There was no Noah dummy. Just as the Epic of Gilgamesh was fiction so was the story of Noah. Good movie though always enjoy Russell Crowe good actor. now,,,,take your pills.
 

Murphy

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I can provide addresses to mhz and selfsame. I'm sure the people there would be very happy to see both of you.
 

MHz

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If I was in Jerusalem why would I not be able to post on threads here?? Would we suffer from Jerusalem Syndrome or would you be more likely too??
BTW my guidebook says to come when the Dead Sea has fresh water fish in it. Got a web cam verification of that condition?

Megaloon is self taught with no formal mentoring. In other words he's nuttier than a fawkin fruitcake.
Are you an example of the best that a private school can produce??

At least I have a guidebook, you wrote your own guidebook as that one wasn't good enough for you. Nothing cakelike about that now is there??
 

Ludlow

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If I was in Jerusalem why would I not be able to post on threads here?? Would we suffer from Jerusalem Syndrome or would you be more likely too??

BTW my guidebook says to come when the Dead Sea has fresh water fish in it. Got a web cam verification of that condition?


Are you an example of the best that a private school can produce??

At least I have a guidebook, you wrote your own guidebook as that one wasn't good enough for you. Nothing cakelike about that now is there??
your guidebook is a storybook which you have turned into your idol. take the pills Koresh.
 

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darkbeaver

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Salvation/salvage is my prime interest in the material world right after eating which will always be number one. Machine parts by the millions cast, machined, big name engineers, Totyota Honda, Chevrolet, a never ending aftermarket of repurposed top quality engineered pieces of staggering weight and scope, melted by the millions of tonnes. Fukkin makes me shiver, the waste is Satanic. Finished nuts bolts levers wheels gears, jhust rubbish they say, fukkin idiots.