Watch: Armed Student Attacks Police, Gets Shot. Leftists Blame… the Police?!

Tecumsehsbones

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It's not so much that ignorance that bothers me so much is the idea that a leg or shoulder is somehow a "safe" place to shoot someone.
Um. . . that basically IS ignorance. Ignorance of both ballistics and anatomy.

Too many "grab your shoulder and tell the girl it's only a flesh wound" movies.
 

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I think both students AND Campus Police should be disarmed of guns. I never had an armed police force on my campus. Basically the only thing that the security guards had to deal with was a few drunk and unruly students and the breaking of an occaisional parking barrier. For everything else call in the municipal constabulary who are likely more competent to deal with avoidable confrontations. There is nothing here that could not have been handled with a few judo holds, pepper spray, a taser or simply backing off and defusing the situation.. without lethal consequences.
 
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Um. . . that basically IS ignorance. Ignorance of both ballistics and anatomy.
Exactly, re-read what I wrote.
It's not so much that ignorance that bothers me so much is the idea that a leg or shoulder is somehow a "safe" place to shoot someone.
"That ignorance" was referring to the ignorance of ballistics, and training for that matter. I guess I should have emphasized the first "that".

Too many "grab your shoulder and tell the girl it's only a flesh wound" movies.
No kidding. It would be a pretty lucky only to receive a flesh wound in the shoulder unless the shooter just winged ya or something.
 

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COPS KILLED A WHITE MAN BUT HE WAS A TRANNY SO IT’S OUTRAGEOUS



Interesting title and slant this shooting is taking..
 

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This Scout Schultz is a confusing character. According to CNN he identified as non-binary ‘intersexual’. Now technically the term intersex refers to hermaphrodites, i.e., people born with the reproductive organs of both male and female. It is a highly rare condition. So was Schultz a hermaphrodite or a transgender or something else? Very confusing to say the least. Next it is said that he or she or they were 21 years old, but judging by the photos, they look way older than 21 but I digress. Schultz definitely deserves at least partial responsibility by pulling out that knife. I doubt he she they whatever were killed simply for being ‘intersex’
 

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I think both students AND Campus Police should be disarmed of guns. I never had an armed police force on my campus. Basically the only thing that the security guards had to deal with was a few drunk and unruly students and the breaking of an occaisional parking barrier. For everything else call in the municipal constabulary who are likely more competent to deal with avoidable confrontations. There is nothing here that could not have been handled with a few judo holds, pepper spray, a taser or simply backing off and defusing the situation.. without lethal consequences.
I am from Missouri, you step up to the plate and show everyone that you can disarm all with your holds and ability to get the crazies to submit to you. You should be able to do all this without a gun, taser so as to not harm the person. Stand up and be counted, or shut up.
 

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I am from Missouri, you step up to the plate and show everyone that you can disarm all with your holds and ability to get the crazies to submit to you. You should be able to do all this without a gun, taser so as to not harm the person. Stand up and be counted, or shut up.



So your solution is to arm everyone. That's why the USA has the highest homicide rate in the Developed World.. 4 times that of countries with the most stringent gun control (especially of hand guns). And the highest homicide rates for police, much higher that Britain or many European countries, where police are normally unarmed and situations which require an armed response are handled by highly trained SWAT units.
 

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They have noticed that shrimp in the gulf of mexico are all whacked out on pissed out anti depressants flowing down the Mississippi. The shrimp just laugh at the predators when the see them, and instead of hiding, just step right out in front of the moving beaks because the anti depressants make them NOT GaFF!

FFS...F!

Then guys like this one, all whacked ou on SSRIed Shrimp see the cop fingering his trigger and because they now just don't GaFF, step right out in front of the bus
 
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Good point.

My brother is an OPP officer who's never used lethal force but has taken down people with weapons on their person. SJW's still accuse and treat him as a cop who's using police brutality tactics. SJW's aren't interested in facts, they don't distinguish between the right and the wrong way of doing things. They latch on to the victim mentality without using logic.


It was. They repeatedly told him to put the knife down.

IF SJWs had any logic they would cease to be SJWs.
 

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I am from Missouri, you step up to the plate and show everyone that you can disarm all with your holds and ability to get the crazies to submit to you. You should be able to do all this without a gun, taser so as to not harm the person. Stand up and be counted, or shut up.



Multiple police officers could most definitely do this, assuming 'the crazie' didn't have a gun.
 

spilledthebeer

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Multiple police officers could most definitely do this, assuming 'the crazie' didn't have a gun.

Blame the cops for EVERYTHING? Better get used to that as LIE-berals peddle their reverse racist poison to lunatics and reverse bigots! Consider:

Here is an article offering sound and timely advice! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Appeasing BLM will backfire.

First posted: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 07:02 PM EDT | Updated: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 07:09 PM EDT

The problem isn’t with Black Lives Matter. The problem is with Mayor John Tory and the majority of city councillors who are either terrified of standing up to its members, or who agree with their tactics. Black militancy is nothing new in Toronto. Before BLM, we had the Black Action Defence Committee.

The strategies such groups employ — don’t play by the rules and dismiss white people who disagree with you as racists — were described almost 50 years ago by American journalist and author Tom Wolfe in his great satirical essay, Radical Chic & Mau-Mauing the Flak Catchers.

In it, Wolfe explained how black militants in San Francisco successfully intimidated city hall by, “rolling in with your certified angry militants, your guaranteed frustrated ghetto youth, looking like a bunch of wild men.

“Then you had your test confrontation. If you were outrageous enough, if you could shake up the bureaucrats so bad that their eyes froze into ice balls and their mouths twisted up into smiles of sheer physical panic ... then they knew you were the real goods.”

Sound familiar, Toronto? Indeed, why should BLM change their confrontational tactics, intended to unfairly demonize and de-legitimize the police at every opportunity? The fact is, they’re winning.

BLM got uniformed police officers banned from last Sunday’s pride parade, which the mayor and the majority on council meekly went along with, even allowing pride to keep its $260,000 city grant.

(The ugly reality is that BLM does NOT want justice or equality- they ALREADY have that! What they want is the same thing that LIE-berals want! They want money and power- with NO responsibility or accountability! Who wants to flip burgers or weld lumps of metal together for a steel fabrication company when its so much easier and more pleasant to sit in some air conditioned office telling people about black history and the `struggle` you endured so you could sit in that nice office!)

Now their sights are set on getting the police services board to scrap the widely praised school resource officer program, which has the dual aims of making schools safer and improving relations between police and students.

(And should we ask if it might be good for kids to actually be around a cop in a calm and controlled environment so they get used to seeing and dealing with what a previous generation of black radical bigots called “The Occupying Army”?)

Prior to that, pressure from BLM was a key factor in the province’s decision to hold an inquest into the fatal police shooting of Andrew Loku, after the province’s Special Investigations Unit cleared the police of wrongdoing.

(And oh look at the tap dancing being done by LIE-beral hug a thug judges- exclaiming that the death of Loku was a “homicide” but that nobody is guilty! In this case they are simply referring to the fancy and DELIBERATELY MIS-LEADING Latin title of Homicide- as in a homo-sapien has died. Its splitting hairs and sucking up to BLM bigots to use such provocative language as the Latin HOMICIDE in this case!)

(The TRUTH is being IGNORED HERE! One of the recommendations of the LOKU inquest jury was that cops be given Tazers! And of course Police Services Board has always resisted giving out such weapons because they ALLEGE cops might misuse them! LIE-berals have proven they would rather see crazy black people shot with .40mm pistols than have them taking up space in an expensive insane asylum! LIE-beral lust for more gravy is so strong they are willing to see bodies in the street rather than give cops a sensible alternative to shooting people! SO LIE-berals can be expected to quietly IGNORE the request for Tazers but it’s a given that LIE-berals WILL be all on fire for more sensitivity training for “racist cops” because the “training’ will give LIE-berals the chance to throw money at radical black “experts” in exchange for votes!)

(And who remembers Arnold Minors- the black “expert” hired to train Toronto cops in race relations? Minors is the guy who made famous the phrase “Occupying Army’ to describe Toronto cops- toan audience made up of cops! And shortly thereafter Minors was exposed as a complete fraud! He was Not an experienced senior homicide investigator from Miami- he was just a lowly traffic cop- and not a very good one either- who TALKED a great game that Toronto Silly Hall goofs bought into until Minors background was exposed.)

(Minors was exposed as a complete fraud with NONE of the qualifications he claimed but Toronto Silly Hall let him work out his FULL contract and gave him FULL pay as well, as compensation for his radical political garbage! Minors definitely Mau-Maued the Toronto flak catchers! He DID train our cops regarding the bullshit political climate in Toronto but sadly, cops did NOT learn anything that would moderate their views on black radicals or the LIE-berals who support them!)

(The truth is that if cops were such stone cold killers as BLM alleges, they would have stormed City hall and Queens Park long ago and rid us of a pack of LIARS!)

Tory and the majority on council may think they’ll be able to appease BLM — heck, the city gave them a race relations award — but that’s painfully naive.

BLM isn’t going to back off and similar groups, noting the political successes of BLM, may well choose to adopt their confrontational tactics in making their own demands.

(And the PROOF of that last statement showed up on Parliament Hill Friday as natives got arrested for trying to screw with the LIE-beral Canada Day party!)

And why not? After all, they seem to be working on our politicians.
 

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We have millions of immigrants waiting to join this society. Good riddance

Let someone who wants to live take his place

You can’t help someone who doesn’t want to help themselves anyways
 

spilledthebeer

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We have millions of immigrants waiting to join this society. Good riddance

Let someone who wants to live take his place

You can’t help someone who doesn’t want to help themselves anyways

My sentiments exactly! Why in hell are LIE-berals so utterly and madly determined to pull in the worst of the worst?

There are so very many people in the world that would be grateful for a hand out and a hand up that there is no need to screw around with those infected with the radical Islam DISEASE!

But consider LIE-beral efforts to poison Canada with lax, careless and hugely costly political policy:

Here is an article describing the utterly selfish motives of the LIE-beral party as they buy ethnic votes without regard for national security or the costs involved. And aint it sickening that Ndpers like Jagmeet Singh are willing to ride along? Jag sure is NOT opposing them- rather he is trying to OUT DO them! But then NDPers are the less cunning and less intelligent kissing cousins of LIE-berals! To become NDP it is required that you be too stupid to be accepted as a LIE-beral! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Liberal politicization of immigration system gets even worse

By Lorne Gunter , Edmonton Sun. First posted: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 05:41 PM EDT | Updated: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 06:21 PM EDT

Two weeks ago, I wrote that the federal Liberal government was playing partisan games with Canada’s immigration appeal system. In the name of transparency and objectivity, the Trudeau government was refusing to renew the appointments of any immigration judges who were male or who had been appointed by the Harper government.

(Holier than thou LIE-berals, led by Our feminist idiot Boy Justin are now discriminating on gender grounds! But then what can we expect from a prime minister who thinks it is a good idea to reserve half the seats in parliament form women regardless of who cdns wish to elect?)

That meant immigration appeal offices across the country would have too few adjudicators to handle the current case load.

(And the longer illegals are left in Canada, the more likely they are to cook up an excuse to stay on “compassionate grounds” that only a LIE-beral would accept!)

Offices in Vancouver and Calgary, which are responsible for all of Western Canada, are dangerously understaffed. Instead of the 11 judges who normally hear appeals from Winnipeg to the West Coast, by July there will be just two judges left while the Trudeauites search for enough loyal Liberal visible-minority and female appointees to take up the slack.

I predicted if this vacuum persisted, the appeal process in Western Canada would grind to a halt and last Wednesday that prediction came true. Without any fanfare, the federal Immigration department confirmed that there is such a shortage of judges that the immigration appeal division -IAD, “will be able to schedule only a limited number of oral hearings … west of Ontario for at least the next six months.” Probably longer.

In the interim, “the IAD will focus its efforts on resolving as many appeals as it can without an oral hearing.” That’s lovely, but an oral hearing is needed in the most suspicious cases.

Where applicants are the subject of a deportation order because they have committed a crime, or where they are suspected of entering into marriages of convenience simply to sneak a spouse into the country or when they have filled out fraudulent application forms, it is very risky to pencil-whip their approval to stay in Canada. A trained immigration judge should first look them in the eye while he or she hears the details of their cases and asks pertinent questions.

(But LIE-berals have already begun that carefree fast track process! After the Oct/ 2015 election- LIE-berals began culling the ranks of immigration judges that are known to ask probing questions of immigrants they suspect are lying! LIE-berals have disposed of many judges on political grounds- for holding suspect views on either immigrants or on LIE-beral policy!)

But I suppose if your top priority for our immigration system is to let in as many people as possible, regardless of their qualifications or possible terror ties, and your second priority is to cram the judges’ chambers with dutiful Liberals who will rubberstamp the party line, then whether or not the IAD provides an adequate filter is irrelevant to you. And that seems to be precisely what the Liberals are doing, especially west of Lake of the Woods.

(The LIE-beral immigrant selection process is apparently confined to whether the applicant can accurately identify a LIE-beral and offer slavish electoral support!)

This is unfair to new Canadians who have been waiting for a hearing for as many as four years already and may now have to wait another year or two. Their lives and the lives of their families will now be on hold even longer while they wait to learn their fate.

(And its worth noting that the Somali refugee claimant and Isis supporter who attacked us in Edmonton had been known to cops- who did not have the time or resources to fully pursue the matter to determine if the guy was dangerous or just eccentric- not that any proof would have been relevant to LIE-berals! After all, Our idiot Boy has RESTORED Cdn citizenship to members of the CONVICTED Toronto 18 Muslim terror group- instead of deporting them!)

It is also unfair to Canadians as a whole. Not only will the cost to taxpayers go up as delays drag on, but there is also a very good chance that the courts will eventually say many applicants have been here so long- six to eight years by the time the Libs find enough sycophants to populate the appeals boards- that it would be unconstitutional to remove them.

(It is what is happening already with Cdn criminals- in mid June 2017- Cdn courts quietly released SEVEN ACCUSED MURDERERS because LIE-berals could not offer them a trial within a reasonable time! Talk about getting away with murder!)

There may also be a third, even more sinister motive behind the Liberals delaying tactics. At least two sources with direct knowledge of the Liberals’ long-term immigration strategy confirm the Trudeau government is considering a general amnesty in 2018 for most outstanding immigration and refugee claimants.

How convenient. If that happens, that could mean 100,000 or more new voters before the next federal election in 2019, and all of them extremely grateful to Justin Trudeau and the Liberals.

(And some skeptics think I am unreason able in suggesting LIE-berals have GROSSLY selfish motives? HAHAHAHAHAHA!)

There’s an easy solution to this. The Libs should just reappoint all the judges they have effectively dismissed.

(Oh that will NOT do- as LIE-berals can not reappoint the judges because LIE-berals are on record as saying that Conservative appointed judges ask too many hard questions of immigrants and when they don’t like the stupid answers the judges refuse to let the dorks become Cdns and thus thwart LIE-beral policy!)