**** walk..?

mentalfloss

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So just for the record here, there is no real causal relationship between revealing dress and rape?
 

Unforgiven

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Sl uts my eye! None of them bi tches would roll and I brought money and booze too! They should have called it bi tch gonna bang anybody but you walk cause none of them bi tches was a sl ut no damn way!

New word for today "box fuzz".

"Git yer box fuzz outta my toast bi tches, this ain't no sl ut walk, ham tasted hipster frag."
 

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I'm going out on a limb here, I take it you meant to say "shouldn't be".

How does prancing down Toronto streets in their underwear do that?

So do you believe that women bear no accountability if they are raped, because of their attire, their actions?

I'm just commenting, I know you weren't addressing the post to me.

No, their bear no accountability if they are raped, irrespective of how they are dressed, or not
dressed.
BUT, women are stupid to dress that way anyway, but if they are raped, no fault should be to anyone
but the rapist.
Men shouldn't ever think that because a woman is dressed in any particular way, it gives them any
sort of invitation, what they should think is, 'that woman is dressing in bad taste, and should
know better', period, end of story, and, if anything, (according to some men I have had conversation
with), those particular women, turn them off.
 

PoliticalNick

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If my daughter dressed skanky while burning a Quran or Bible on the Shabbat I'd still be the most pissed about dressing like a skank.

I would prefer her to dess like a skank if she wanted to burn religious books. The wet t-shirt, micro-skirt and fishnets would make it so nobody noticed what she was doing.
 

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Sl uts my eye! None of them bi tches would roll and I brought money and booze too! They should have called it bi tch gonna bang anybody but you walk cause none of them bi tches was a sl ut no damn way!

New word for today "box fuzz".

"Git yer box fuzz outta my toast bi tches, this ain't no sl ut walk, ham tasted hipster frag."
That's is some fancy sweet talking.
 

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IMHO I would call burning a bible or other religious text in an attempt to inflame an entire religion a hate-crime and therefore freedom of expression would not be applicable.

Hate crimes (also known as bias-motivated crimes) occur when a perpetrator targets a victim because of his or her perceived membership in a certain social group, usually defined by racial group, religion, sexual orientation, disability, class, ethnicity, nationality, age, gender, gender identity, social status or political affiliation.[1]

I would say the differentiating factor is the expectancy of the result. She does not expect to be raped just becuase she has a mini-skirt on but the pastor expected a strong response from his actions.

What if the women were dressing ****ty as to offend terrorists? I seem to recall getting an email encouraging women to dance naked to root out terrorists or something like that. Would that be a hate crime?

So just for the record here, there is no real causal relationship between revealing dress and rape?

Do you have a study that shows that?
 

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It must also be pointed out the cop is not being paid for an opinion he is being paid to enforce
the law, and to act when the law is broken regardless of his opinion. We are not living in a
Muslim country where people have to wear burqas because the men are so repressed by a
backward culture and violent religion. NO means NO regardless of what someone is wearing.
Society in no way condones rape or sexual assault and it matters not what someone wears.
I do however agree that telling vulnerable women not to walk alone in unlit parking lots or in
some areas of a city, is common sense as police can't be everywhere all the time. Some
precaution is required even for lone males in some areas, not for sexual assault reasons but
for robbery or other forms of violence.
There is a difference in reasons here, one is for safety, not to make yourself a target by being
in a place where you cannot protect yourself and the idea that you must dress in a fashion
that won't have a criminal rape you. It is my opinion that those who commit rape or sexual
attacks on women should get a minimum twenty years for their troubles with no chance of parole.
All this societal lecturing and conforming to suit the mind of a man who is a mental midget is
ridiculous. Men have to obey the law like everyone else, and the Devil made me do it because
of the way she was dressed is nonsense. It might play in tribal or Muslim societies but in the
real world it is unacceptable.
 

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Is calling yourself a **** empowering?

**** is derogatory term applied primarily to sexually promiscuous women. Do you ever notice the word applied with significant frequency to men? Is there a similar term for sexually promiscuous men that is as commonly used as **** is for women?

Why not? Because male sexual promiscuity is admired and envied, even promoted. Female sexuality is supposed to be controlled and there's a sense of public ownership. A woman doesn't need to have sex with a lot of men to be a ****, she needs only to dress in a way that heightens her sexuality. Having sex with just one partner, or simply flirting publicly, is grounds for being called a ****, so long as there's someone who feels entitled to pronounce on the woman's sexuality.

Take the word back. It means an unapproved display of sexuality. Well **** you, we don't need your approval.

Really?

That's not what you say here...



According to you there. Women should bear accountability. While you almost completely exonerate the criminal of culpa ability.

pwnt

What if the women were dressing ****ty as to offend terrorists? I seem to recall getting an email encouraging women to dance naked to root out terrorists or something like that. Would that be a hate crime?

Was it Boobquake?
 

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Is calling yourself a **** empowering?

**** is derogatory term applied primarily to sexually promiscuous women. Do you ever notice the word applied with significant frequency to men? Is there a similar term for sexually promiscuous men that is as commonly used as **** is for women?
Actually, I have heard many men refer to themselves or their friends as sl*ts. And proud of it. Although I think they act more like dogs, humping anything that will stand still. I remember seeing a guy, back in the early sixties, humping a lamp post. I really don't think men should be judging the moral character of anybody.

There was a story, a few years ago, of a female cop who spotted a drunk guy out in a field humping a pumpkin. When she asked him if he was aware that he was humping a pumpkin he said, " Crap! Is it past midnight already?"
 
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Rape isn't about sex it's about violence. So what we're really talking about here is women dressing in some manner to promote violence. Or simply, "you made me hit you cause you look that way". Ah it's clear now, that would be ridiculous. It's Taliban stupid.

So what is that? Ducking responsibility. I do something bad but instead of owning up to it, I make an excuse. I am bad it's your fault. Can it be made more clear? I don't even think there is a question in all this.

Now the Cop with the big mouth. What was that? Stupid? For sure, but what is with that nugget in there that is tweaking everyone? What could that be that throws some undisclosed exception in the whole issue? Most men understand it and some women too. It's hard to stop when she's ready to go. Lots of relationships fail because it's not the brains that do the thinking all the time. Those instinctual urges can get pretty damn powerful. Watch a mother viewing something terrible being done to a child and you can see the instincts rising up from deep within her psyche. Don't think for a moment that other instincts are less powerful.

Some stuff is just hardwired in and though it certainly can and should be controlled, some times it's a difficult job to do when it would seem she is cheering you on to the finish.

While the principle is rock solid, No Means No, sometimes no means chase me, and if you are powerful enough, you might conquer and dominate me. We play with that concept every day. Most of the time it doesn't mean anything bad.
But once in a while, the devastation it causes is a tragedy.

We all have our tools to help us navigate through life. Sexual attraction and potential for violence are part of that tool kit. If anything we need to revisit "shop" class to learn how to use our "tools" for good and not evil.
Sound simple doesn't it?
 

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**** is derogatory term applied primarily to sexually promiscuous women. Do you ever notice the word applied with significant frequency to men? Is there a similar term for sexually promiscuous men that is as commonly used as **** is for women?
Pig.
 

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I'm just commenting, I know you weren't addressing the post to me.

No, their bear no accountability if they are raped, irrespective of how they are dressed, or not
dressed.
BUT, women are stupid to dress that way anyway, but if they are raped, no fault should be to anyone
but the rapist.
Men shouldn't ever think that because a woman is dressed in any particular way, it gives them any
sort of invitation, what they should think is, 'that woman is dressing in bad taste, and should
know better', period, end of story, and, if anything, (according to some men I have had conversation
with), those particular women, turn them off.

Yea, originally I had the former line of thinking - don't tempt fate. But in the end, all of the fault rests upon the guy, regardless of the temptation. And really, every man can appreciate a nice ****ty looking woman without having to rape them.
 

karrie

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Saying that a woman that dresses ****ty deserves or is asking to be raped is nonsense. However, the real question is, does dress have an affect on the chances of being raped. It's too politically incorrect but I'd love to see a study done on the dressing habits of rape victims. I'm not saying there is a correlation. I don't honestly don't know and would be interested to see if there is.

Compare the stats from a Western culture, to one that requires conservative dress. It's pretty simple. Are mennonite, hutterite, muslim, or any other orthodox population, seeing improved rape statistics?
 

karrie

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So a group of women getting together, dressed scantily, and having a "sl!twalk" does what to stop the objectification of women?

Ya know, while I get what you're saying, you're also confusing the issue. I know men who objectify women.... it doesn't make them rapists. And men who rape don't necessarily objectify women. The opposite can be the case, that they feel inferior to women.