Voices Must be Heard

[peoplesadvocate]

I find it to be amusing how many of you truly deny facts and see what you want. I have said it before and will say it again . Make enough people believe a lie and it becomes the truth.
So when I see you ignore facts as large or small as they may be I know that our tomorrows will be the same as our yesterdays because there are not enough of you and I mean in any political affiliation that have INTEGRITY or ACCOUNTABILITY to stand up and speak out.
I watch as you all with your smug " I am so intelligent so I must be right " attitudes arguing over things for the most part you don't even understand. You don't sit in parliament and I am sure most are to lazy to vote.
How many have actually written a member of parliament or sat in one of their offices ? I should guess few if any .
This country needs a new view, That will take awhile because on sites like this you are all Monday morning quarterbacks.

I know it is too much to ask but hey I don't care what party you are for lets start looking at facts and asking the hard questions we should all want to see an honest government and for those of you that are narcissistic and only happy when you have what you need with no thoughts of others no one will ever change you way of thinking and I pray you don.t get what you deserve .

Every voice should be heard ,Even those too small or too distant Listen and who knows you just might change the world without even knowing it.

 

[gerryh]

and your point is,,,what? I see no real questions, no real points to debate.... what was the purpose of this thread? Just for you to rant?

 

[peoplesadvocate]

and your point is,,,what? I see no real questions, no real points to debate.... what was the purpose of this thread? Just for you to rant?

thank you for proving my point.

 

[DaSleeper]

You know Gerry, that a superiority complex like he/she has is usually used to hide major feelings of inadequacy.....

 

[gerryh]

thank you for proving my point.

and again, no questions, no points to debate.

 

[SLM]

 

[Colpy]

I find it to be amusing how many of you truly deny facts and see what you want. I have said it before and will say it again . Make enough people believe a lie and it becomes the truth.
So when I see you ignore facts as large or small as they may be I know that our tomorrows will be the same as our yesterdays because there are not enough of you and I mean in any political affiliation that have INTEGRITY or ACCOUNTABILITY to stand up and speak out.
I watch as you all with your smug " I am so intelligent so I must be right " attitudes arguing over things for the most part you don't even understand. You don't sit in parliament and I am sure most are to lazy to vote.
How many have actually written a member of parliament or sat in one of their offices ? I should guess few if any .
This country needs a new view, That will take awhile because on sites like this you are all Monday morning quarterbacks.

I know it is too much to ask but hey I don't care what party you are for lets start looking at facts and asking the hard questions we should all want to see an honest government and for those of you that are narcissistic and only happy when you have what you need with no thoughts of others no one will ever change you way of thinking and I pray you don.t get what you deserve .

Every voice should be heard ,Even those too small or too distant Listen and who knows you just might change the world without even knowing it.

Ahhhh....you poor dear.



I not only vote, I am a paid up card carrying member of a political party.

I am also a member of a couple of politically active special interest groups.

I have a degree with a minor in political science. Betsa are I know a LOT more about Canadian political culture and process than you.

I have written MPs many times.

I have even been known to watch QP.

You, however, have no clue.

Why would you start a thread that says nothing, while you constantly bring ASBESTOs into threads that have nothing to do with that issue, yet you refuse to start a thread on that topic?

Are you a troll?

Or simply simple?

Naw.....a soapbox implies that the speaker has something to say.

 

[peoplesadvocate]

Ahhhh....you poor dear.



I not only vote, I am a paid up card carrying member of a political party.

I am also a member of a couple of politically active special interest groups.

I have a degree with a minor in political science. Betsa are I know a LOT more about Canadian political culture and process than you.

I have written MPs many times.

I have even been known to watch QP.

You, however, have no clue.

Why would you start a thread that says nothing, while you constantly bring ASBESTOs into threads that have nothing to do with that issue, yet you refuse to start a thread on that topic?

Are you a troll?

Or simply simple?



Naw.....a soapbox implies that the speaker has something to say.

Almighty educated one Try to read and digest some facts

Exporting an epidemic | Center for Public Integrity

http://www.icij.org/sites/icij/files/dangersinthedust_1.pdf

Canada and asbestos | Wednesday-Night

https://rainbowwarrior2005.wordpress.com/category/health/

Ban-Asbestos-India: December 2011

I am so glad that you as an educated man say you understand facts. So lets ask you almighty knowing one did Harper pay lobbyists to push for the export of a deadly carcinogen or did he not?
Did Harper block the Rotterdam accord by refusing to sign on with the other 52 countries that would have labeled ASBESTOS as a dangerous good blocking it from being labeled as such ?
See you won't answer this honestly ,another thing you said how dare I put this in the same league as what Hitler did well my friend by 2030 there will be projected 20,000,000 deaths from this now I ask you is that crime against humanity ? That is millions but I guess like you say you are an important card carrying member. Sounds vaguely familiar.

 

[darkbeaver]

I find it to be amusing how many of you truly deny facts and see what you want. I have said it before and will say it again . Make enough people believe a lie and it becomes the truth.
So when I see you ignore facts as large or small as they may be I know that our tomorrows will be the same as our yesterdays because there are not enough of you and I mean in any political affiliation that have INTEGRITY or ACCOUNTABILITY to stand up and speak out.
I watch as you all with your smug " I am so intelligent so I must be right " attitudes arguing over things for the most part you don't even understand. You don't sit in parliament and I am sure most are to lazy to vote.
How many have actually written a member of parliament or sat in one of their offices ? I should guess few if any .
This country needs a new view, That will take awhile because on sites like this you are all Monday morning quarterbacks.

I know it is too much to ask but hey I don't care what party you are for lets start looking at facts and asking the hard questions we should all want to see an honest government and for those of you that are narcissistic and only happy when you have what you need with no thoughts of others no one will ever change you way of thinking and I pray you don.t get what you deserve .

Every voice should be heard ,Even those too small or too distant Listen and who knows you just might change the world without even knowing it.

Your trust in Parliament is cute." A new view" you could follow that with similar drivel like the recent " hope and change" line from the the stooge in Washington. You came, you postured, you said nothing. next

 

[EagleSmack]

I see we've got a "new" member!

 

[gerryh]

A dying industry

The asbestos industry, regardless of a substance ban, may die in Canada on its own.
Since the 1980s, export and production of the mineral has dwindled down to less than 25 per cent of its original haul.
A multitude of factors are at play, in addition to the controversy Chrysotile courts at home. High transportation costs, the strength of the Canadian dollar and the ability of other countries, such as Zimbabwe, to sell the mineral at a cheaper cost have cut into Canada's ability to compete.
"Asbestos is a dying industry," says Langer. "Quebec can't compete with production in Zimbabwe or in Russia,

 

[peoplesadvocate]

A dying industry

The asbestos industry, regardless of a substance ban, may die in Canada on its own.
Since the 1980s, export and production of the mineral has dwindled down to less than 25 per cent of its original haul.
A multitude of factors are at play, in addition to the controversy Chrysotile courts at home. High transportation costs, the strength of the Canadian dollar and the ability of other countries, such as Zimbabwe, to sell the mineral at a cheaper cost have cut into Canada's ability to compete.
"Asbestos is a dying industry," says Langer. "Quebec can't compete with production in Zimbabwe or in Russia,

I said yes or no I did not realize it was that hard of a question.

 

[gerryh]

I said yes or no I did not realize it was that hard of a question.

Well, isn't that special. You now get to limit how answers are given. Try again junior. YOU don't get to limit sweet piss all when it comes to what I do or don't do, or what I say or don't say.


Now, no comment on the fact that experts are saying that Asbestos is dying all on it's own?

oh, and BTW, this isn't "Law and Order".

 

[SLM]

Peoplesadvocate. Interesting choice for a Username. Something of a misnomer though seeing as you appear to be less about advocating for any specific people and more about angry little man diatribes because we don't all seem to be bowing down before your great message. Personally I'd suggest what you want is a Blog, not a Discussion Forum, because they are quite different in both form and structure. Also given your lack of people skills, you may want to stay away from mediums which allow for too much commentary. Blogs will let you do this.

Here what you're going to draw is the attention of those who eat angry little men for breakfast. This will not end well for you, there may in fact be tears. And given your already angry state, you may want to watch the blood pressure.

Of course if all you really are is an attention *****, then by all means carry on carrying on. We just ask that you try not to bleed on the carpet, we just had it cleaned.

 

[peoplesadvocate]

Well, isn't that special. You now get to limit how answers are given. Try again junior. YOU don't get to limit sweet piss all when it comes to what I do or don't do, or what I say or don't say.


Now, no comment on the fact that experts are saying that Asbestos is dying all on it's own?

oh, and BTW, this isn't "Law and Order".

You are so smart you make me feel bad about my very limited political knowledge.
and for you to figure out this is not a T.V show .....Good for you

 

[SLM]

Well, isn't that special. You now get to limit how answers are given. Try again junior. YOU don't get to limit sweet piss all when it comes to what I do or don't do, or what I say or don't say.


Now, no comment on the fact that experts are saying that Asbestos is dying all on it's own?

oh, and BTW, this isn't "Law and Order".

Gerry if it was Law and Order it might be interesting. LOL.

 

[peoplesadvocate]

Peoplesadvocate. Interesting choice for a Username. Something of a misnomer though seeing as you appear to be less about advocating for any specific people and more about angry little man diatribes because we don't all seem to be bowing down before your great message. Personally I'd suggest what you want is a Blog, not a Discussion Forum, because they are quite different in both form and structure. Also given your lack of people skills, you may want to stay away from mediums which allow for too much commentary. Blogs will let you do this.

Here what you're going to draw is the attention of those who eat angry little men for breakfast. This will not end well for you, there may in fact be tears. And given your already angry state, you may want to watch the blood pressure.

Of course if all you really are is an attention *****, then by all means carry on carrying on. We just ask that you try not to bleed on the carpet, we just had it cleaned.

Again you prove yourself a mental midget.

You are so smart you make me feel bad about my very limited political knowledge.
and for you to figure out this is not a T.V show .....Good for you

It is dying because people are realizing how dangerous it is , wow you are a true Tory

 

[SLM]

Again you prove yourself a mental midget.

There's your stellar people skills in action. Seriously you should think about a name change. How about "AngryLittleMan"? It suits you.

 

[gerryh]

You are so smart you make me feel bad about my very limited political knowledge.
and for you to figure out this is not a T.V show .....Good for you

Nice to see you admitting you have limited knowledge. It is something that has been very obvious from your original post on this board. This is the first step, next I would suggest you just try listening before opening your mouth and inserting your foot.

Again you prove yourself a mental midget.

Actually, no, she has proven how much of a mental midget you are.

It is dying because people are realizing how dangerous it is ,

That is exactly right, so why get yourself all tied into knots because the Government of Canada is doing what it needs to do to protect Canadian interests and jobs. The Government KNOWS what is happening with Asbestos. It KNOWS that taking the hardline right now really won't speed anything up and, in fact, will hurt many people and hurt the government itself in Quebec.


it would really be nice if ideologues like yourself, could look at a subject through more than their own self made blinders. You would learn a fu ck of a lot more and actually be able to contribute more.

wow you are a true Tory

I don't think I have voted for any party Federally besides the Liberals since about 1978. So the answer to your statement would be no, I am not, and once more shows your limited intellect.

 

[peoplesadvocate]

Nice to see you admitting you have limited knowledge. It is something that has been very obvious from your original post on this board. This is the first step, next I would suggest you just try listening before opening your mouth and inserting your foot.






Actually, no, she has proven how much of a mental midget you are.






That is exactly right, so why get yourself all tied into knots because the Government of Canada is doing what it needs to do to protect Canadian interests and jobs. The Government KNOWS what is happening with Asbestos. It KNOWS that taking the hardline right now really won't speed anything up and, in fact, will hurt many people and hurt the government itself in Quebec.


it would really be nice if ideologues like yourself, could look at a subject through more than their own self made blinders. You would learn a fu ck of a lot more and actually be able to contribute more.





I don't think I have voted for any party Federally besides the Liberals since about 1978. So the answer to your statement would be no, I am not, and once more shows your limited intellect.

well could all you great tories read something before we talk again I mean other than your usual reading, Harpers tales for the week minded.
night all you well educated humanitarians keep the tory flags flying should not be hard with amount of hot air you blow
Remember with all the other hate mail you send my way try to answer the 2 questions I but before you long ago.