False! Those responsible[ at] Enron faced legal action, those responsible{for} the legal but unlawful spawn of Enron like corporations and every other criminal corporate and private organizations never faced justice.
Venezuela's Chavez threatens to cut oil to U.S.
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False! Those responsible[ at] Enron faced legal action, those responsible{for} the legal but unlawful spawn of Enron like corporations and every other criminal corporate and private organizations never faced justice.
Yeah Beve your right to bitch on line is a favor granted you by the wealthy...get it right!
ITN's the kind of guy that sees nothing wrong with the glass ceiling after all only those with a penis are entitled to fat paycheques and appropriate remuneration....
ITN's the kind of person who celebrates the death and disease of people the world over who pay the price for wars of econo-imperialism and "regime-change" when Redpath wants to supply sugar to his pals who can put it into coffee that's picked by peons for three hundred bucks a year....
ITN finds nothing wrong with sweatshops and child slavery so long as some fat American pig is making a profit...
ITN is the champion of everything that makes America the model of democracy and "prosperity" that it is...
A nation that washes its conscience in the blood of the nations poor while celebrating the corruption of government that makes millionaires out of hooligans and liars. Got to love that American Dream....
ITN's the kind of guy that sees nothing wrong with the glass ceiling after all only those with a penis are entitled to fat paycheques and appropriate remuneration....
ITN's the kind of person who celebrates the death and disease of people the world over who pay the price for wars of econo-imperialism and "regime-change" when Redpath wants to supply sugar to his pals who can put it into coffee that's picked by peons for three hundred bucks a year....
ITN finds nothing wrong with sweatshops and child slavery so long as some fat American pig is making a profit...
ITN is the champion of everything that makes America the model of democracy and "prosperity" that it is...
A nation that washes its conscience in the blood of the nations poor while celebrating the corruption of government that makes millionaires out of hooligans and liars. Got to love that American Dream....
You're a western consumer ITN and therefore the apex of enefficency. You could ensure a continued jolly good time of future greater accumulating by surrendering to a mixed economy rather than allowing and aiding your own extinction by your capitalist lovers. Being in the American middle class ensures a rough economic future, you're an endangered species, of course that's why you were raised to consumer enefficiency in the first place, ultimately to be consumed in turn. Capitalism unfolds as it should, all is well, all is normal, relax, take the family to Disney. oh boy balloons.
PS bitching on line and freedom of speech are the same thing what. My bitching supports you freedom ITN. Next you'll bring out the armchair analogys and then the tinfoil and then conspiracy nuts. That's a rather limited palet eh. You seem to be a couple of sentences short of a paragraph. Colouring is where you excell ITN, take some art lessons., get your mind off socialism, have a joint, relax.
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Just so I understand here.
Unless you are dirt poor and downtrodden, you are an abuser of resources, people and a capitalist pig?
Unless you are dirt poor and downtrodden, you are an abuser of resources, people and a capitalist pig?
Yes, and worst of all he writes such short choppy caustic little pieces. My goodness such fear and revulsion. I'm flushed and perspiring, I do believe I need more negativity scrubbing cannisbis and a short afternoon zzzzzzzztrip.:lol:
Naw ... it's sorta like a pyramid scheme. It's a funnel built on the dirt poor and downtrodden and the one on the point who makes the wealth vanish is chief piggie....
Woof!
Good and true point. It does sounds like another attempt to grab money. Sorta like that company in the US who's trying to sue that NB town which didn't allow that quarry to be built in their town for obvious reasons.
They either get what they want originally, or they attempt to sue for even more when they don't. What a system.
But Chavez does seem to have my limited patience mentality. Screw me over once, and you get a warning. Screw me over again and lose everything. Chavez has been trying to put Bush on a timeout, but it's not working. Soon he's gonna start smacking ass by cutting all oil to the US.
One thing I like about Chavez is his straight forwardness, but also his ability to know when to pull back, like the referendum thing they had a while back where the country opposed a socialist plan of his (forget what it was at the moment) but he accepted their decision and moved on.
No Durka
When your idea of "good business" and your idol is "profit regardless of consequences", you surrender the right to expect that your practices will command respect. When millions the world over are abused in the name of making a profit and the world is led ever-closer to a war betwen the have's and the have-nots...who's in the position to make that move? When you reduce children to commodities and their future to lines on a ledger like the Gap and Old Navy...when you terrorize a nation and bomb them into the stone-age on the basis of a lie...when you devalue human life in the name of the "bottom line" it's not reasonable to expect anyone to genuflect before your "democracy" or your notions of "freedom". Since America and good solid Americans like ITN put the "end" of gargantuan profits ahead of the "means" of attaining them at a cost to the people of other nationsin terms of their freedom and their beliefs and their future....that makes you a barbarian and someone who's voluntarily un-subscribed from the community of humankind.
The terrible thing about this kind of situation is that the answers have been there on the table for generations and the greed and fraud of achieving the desired "ends" have reduced the moral tone and the respect that any and all Americans practice and deserve.
Consumption without consequence is the credo of the suicide mentality that's ruled the financial capital of the world for generations. This mentality eschews any idenfification with the rest of humanity and regards the world and every resource of the world as its entitlement at the crack of a gun or the drone of bombers....
When your idea of "good business" and your idol is "profit regardless of consequences", you surrender the right to expect that your practices will command respect. When millions the world over are abused in the name of making a profit and the world is led ever-closer to a war betwen the have's and the have-nots...who's in the position to make that move? When you reduce children to commodities and their future to lines on a ledger like the Gap and Old Navy...when you terrorize a nation and bomb them into the stone-age on the basis of a lie...when you devalue human life in the name of the "bottom line" it's not reasonable to expect anyone to genuflect before your "democracy" or your notions of "freedom". Since America and good solid Americans like ITN put the "end" of gargantuan profits ahead of the "means" of attaining them at a cost to the people of other nationsin terms of their freedom and their beliefs and their future....that makes you a barbarian and someone who's voluntarily un-subscribed from the community of humankind.
The terrible thing about this kind of situation is that the answers have been there on the table for generations and the greed and fraud of achieving the desired "ends" have reduced the moral tone and the respect that any and all Americans practice and deserve.
Consumption without consequence is the credo of the suicide mentality that's ruled the financial capital of the world for generations. This mentality eschews any idenfification with the rest of humanity and regards the world and every resource of the world as its entitlement at the crack of a gun or the drone of bombers....
I geuss the law is only unjust when the corporate capitalist pig dogs get away with it and when the socialists break the law, it's OK.
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When you can't shake your opponent, you can't back up your opinion, just make shyte up....
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When you can't shake your opponent, you can't back up your opinion, just make shyte up....
Yes, that's what the fringe left believes, because quite simply, there is only so much money in the world, if one person gets wealthier, someone on the other end get poorer. When they finally realize that isn't correct, perhaps there can be a serious exchange of opinions. Till then. Simply do what everybody else does, try and ignore them.
When you find the cure for greed ad power, let the rest of us know.
There are alwyas ways to steal money, I know of no system that can prevent that.
Do you?
That's correct, wealthy investors have expanded the internet to where it is today, not lazy socialists on welfare.
Well I don't want to brag........:lol:
That's right MikeyDB, I celebrate death and disease. You have any idea how phuckin STUPID you sound when you make statements like that? I Think Not.
But you want us to lift the embargo on Cuba!!! Oy vey!
Aww shucks.
Ahahahaha, a commie with a conscience, what else will I read today.
You won't get it right with shady interpretations like that Durka, I'm a landowner, of the propertied class, worth money, not much but relatively speaking I'm independently wealthy. I can't read what you wrote anywhere in this thread. Just so you understand you're barking up the wrong tree. Unless you own a transnational corporation or a bank or have vast holdings in the financial speculative markets you ain't a capitalists, and just because you may have a few thousand paltry dollars invested in the crooked stock markets that does not make you a capitalist either it simply makes you a stockholder in crime.
:lol: Get some good smoke and think about it.
You won't get it right with shady interpretations like that Durka, I'm a landowner, of the propertied class, worth money, not much but relatively speaking I'm independently wealthy. I can't read what you wrote anywhere in this thread. Just so you understand you're barking up the wrong tree. Unless you own a transnational corporation or a bank or have vast holdings in the financial speculative markets you ain't a capitalists, and just because you may have a few thousand paltry dollars invested in the crooked stock markets that does not make you a capitalist either it simply makes you a stockholder in crime.
you have a way with words beaver. I'm just an average guy working for a corporation and I sold the stocks I had with them ages ago. I'm a fat cat when it comes to beer consumption though...
Sure do.... the complete removal of currency/money/capitalism all together. If it's not there, then you can't steal it. If you can no longer seek money and personal profit to shape your way of life, then what is next to improve/focus apon?
And no, before someone goes down that path and telling me I am referring to Communism, learn what it actually is first, because I am not even close to referring to Communism, as even Communism had money/currency operating in it's system. It was regulated through the government rather then the people overall, therefore money/capitalism is still existing behind the scenes, AKA: Corruption still existed to a certain level, and not to mention, was partially or mostly the main contributor to why the Soviet Union collapsed in the first place due to the Cold War and Arms Race.
Like the seperation of church and state (or the attempt there of) so too does the removal of currency/money/profit need to be done for any process of government/society to actually work properly. Humanity worked just fine before money/gold pieces/etc. it can work without it again. It's a system of keeping track of trade which has become overly corrupted and outdated and the moment we all realize that it is and we need change, the sooner we can remove the problem which you presented.
Greed and the want for power may still exist, but think about what is the main contributing factor in what drives someone's greed and desire for profit/power? Where does it all root to?
Now, when looking at the main difficulties which are in many relationships around the world or just the average person's own life, one of the main contributing factors to relationships ending, divorces, stress and family disputes over funerals, etc.... are all usually related to money in one manner or another. Not being able to afford the basic requirements of the household, someone spending more money then you are saving, someone's medical bills, someone's education bills/tuitions, it all boils back down to money/capitalism.
We're all trying to ride the same game and get ahead of the next person to make us feel we're better off or in a better position/status in life over the next family or person. We are basically pitted against our own species in a survival of the fittest, when we should be working together as a species. This system in itself is geared to keep humanity as a whole seperated and devided against one another, so that the select few can make it out on top.
Capitalism doesn't help Democracy, Communism, Socialism or any other system. Capitalism only helps Capitalism and the select few who are willing to step over your fellow man to get more of it.
Sometimes the most simplest answer is the best solution.
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http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2008/02/11/chavez-oil.html
*Snickers* he's funny for a politician.
He certainly knows how to throw it out there with little misunderstanding.
It does sound kinda silly for one country to sue another country (Organization against a forign government, etc. whatever.) Yes, I'm aware of the legals and technicalities with trading globally, but when you actually think about it, it's sorta dumb and in the end, besides getting more sanctions or some way of restricting a country's ability to trade with other country, there's not much else to be done, because chances are, even if Exxon won, I doubt Chavez is going to pay up.
Is Hugh Chav still around? I didn't even know he was still around! He's, like, soooo yesterday!
This has nothing to do with one country suing another. It is Exxon suing PdVSA, which has taken control of Exxon's fields in Venezuela when Hugh nationalized the oil deposits. Under the law, companies that have their assets expropriated without just compensation can sue for damages. Thus, Exxon sued in a British, an American and a Caribbean court - all three in different jurisdictions which sided with Exxon - to freeze $12 billion in assets owned by PdVSA outside of Venezuela. Exxon will then pursue their claims, and if they win, assets of PdVSA will be transfered to Exxon, and there ain't nothin' Hugh can do about it.
Most of PdVSA's refining assets are outside of Venezuela. Hugh is BSing when he says he'll cut off oil to the US because the vast majority of Venezuela's exports end up in the US either directly or indirectly. In America, almost of the direct crude goes to Citgo, which is owned by the government of Venezuela, which then sells it through its own gas stations.
Thus, he would be cutting off his own source of revenue. And since Hugh is running a relatively larger deficit than the US compared to the economy, and considering that through Hugh's mismanagement of the oil fields such that the value of oil sold fell by 5% last year even though oil was pushing $100, this is rant and bluster.
And if you're thinking he could just sell it to China or whatever, wrong! Most of Venezuela's exports are very heavy crude, and much if not most of the capacity to refine the complex heavy crude is located in America!
So sorry Hugh-lovers. It just ain't gonna happen!