Venezuela? What’s up with that?

Ron in Regina

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Must’ve been spicy. The United States is interdicting and seizing a (another I guess) vessel off the coast of Venezuela in international waters, three U.S. officials told Reuters on Saturday, a move that comes just days after U.S. President Donald Trump announced a "blockade" of all sanctioned oil tankers entering and leaving Venezuela.

This would mark the second time in recent weeks that the United States has seized a tanker near Venezuela and comes amid a large U.S. military build-up in the region.

The officials, who were speaking on the condition of anonymity, did not say where the operation was taking place but added the Coast Guard was in the lead.

The Coast Guard and Pentagon referred questions to the White House, which did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Venezuela's oil ministry and state oil company PDVSA did not immediately reply to requests for comment, so yeah, etc…
Since the first seizure, Venezuelan crude exports have fallen sharply for some reason…except for the exports that haven’t stopped, but that’s something something, etc…
 

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Must’ve been spicy. The United States is interdicting and seizing a (another I guess) vessel off the coast of Venezuela in international waters, three U.S. officials told Reuters on Saturday, a move that comes just days after U.S. President Donald Trump announced a "blockade" of all sanctioned oil tankers entering and leaving Venezuela.

This would mark the second time in recent weeks that the United States has seized a tanker near Venezuela and comes amid a large U.S. military build-up in the region.

The officials, who were speaking on the condition of anonymity, did not say where the operation was taking place but added the Coast Guard was in the lead.

The Coast Guard and Pentagon referred questions to the White House, which did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Venezuela's oil ministry and state oil company PDVSA did not immediately reply to requests for comment, so yeah, etc…
Since the first seizure, Venezuelan crude exports have fallen sharply for some reason…except for the exports that haven’t stopped, but that’s something something, etc…
Which currency is Venezuela selling oil in?
 

Ron in Regina

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Which currency is Venezuela selling oil in?
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The US has seized an oil tanker that had recently departed from Venezuela, according to the US Department of Homeland Security. It is the second time this month that an oil-carrying ship has been seized off the country's coast.
Huh…for some reason, Venezuela has been “motivated” to use alternative Petro-Dollars.
This latest oil tankers cargo, I’d assume, was ‘probably’ paid for using the RMB, very much like the last one? Countries aren't (up until now?) forced to trade oil in U.S. dollars, but the dollar remains the dominant currency due to the long-standing petrodollar system, where most oil is priced and sold in USD, creating massive demand and making it the default currency for many global energy markets, though some nations are exploring alternatives like the Yuan.
1766324307251.jpegAre you alluding to the US doing whatever they’re doing with Venezuela because they want to force Venezuela to trade oil in American dollars only (?), or are you alluding to this as a preemptive warm-up in the future military confrontation between America and China (?) or are you all alluding to nothing at all here?

U.S. oil companies dominated Venezuela’s petroleum industry until the country’s leaders moved to nationalize the sector, first in the 1970s and again in the 21st century under Maduro and his predecessor, Hugo Chávez. Compensation offered by Venezuela was deemed insufficient, and in 2014 an international arbitration panel ordered the country’s socialist government to pay $1.6 billion to ExxonMobil.
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British maritime risk management company Vanguard said the vessel was believed to be the Panama-flagged Centuries, which was intercepted east of Barbados in the Caribbean Sea.

Jeremy Paner, a partner at Washington, D.C., law firm Hughes Hubbard & Reed LLP and a former investigator with the U.S. Office of Foreign Assets Control, said the vessel has not been sanctioned by the U.S. Hmmm…

White House spokeswoman Anna Kelly said the tanker contained sanctioned oil. "It was a falsely flagged vessel operating as part of the Venezuelan shadow fleet to traffic ‘stolen’ oil and fund the narcoterrorist Maduro regime," she wrote on X.

President Donald Trump demanded Wednesday that Venezuela return assets that it seized “from U.S. oil companies” years ago, justifying anew his announcement of a “blockade” against oil tankers traveling to or from the South American country that face “American” sanctions.
1766327199728.jpegStephen Miller, Trump’s deputy chief of staff, likened Venezuela’s move to nationalize its oil industry to a heist. United States Homeland Security Advisor and close Trump aide Stephen Miller suggested on Wednesday that Venezuela’s oil “belongs to Washington”?
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Miller also shared a screenshot of a Truth Social post from Trump on Tuesday, in which he accused Venezuela of “stealing” US oil, land and other assets, and using that oil to fund crime, terrorism and human trafficking.

In the post, Trump declared Venezuela’s government a “foreign (foreign to what nation?) terrorist organisation” and ordered a total blockade (well, not total) of all sanctioned oil tankers (or in the latest seizure, a non-sanctioned oil tanker) going in or out of the country.
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Trump added that migrants sent by Venezuela are being deported quickly and demanded that all “stolen assets” be returned to the US immediately. Caracas said the actions will be reported to the United Nations Security Council (which America has veto power on) and other multilateral organizations and governments?
 

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Venezuela's military primarily uses equipment from Russia, but also incorporates systems from China and Iran, while maintaining older gear from nations like France, Germany, and the US; major Russian contributions include Sukhoi jets, T-72 tanks, and missile systems, with Iran supplying drones and missiles, and China providing radar and communication tech.
Key Suppliers
  • Russia: The biggest supplier, providing Sukhoi fighters, BMP-3 vehicles, T-72 tanks, Msta-S howitzers, Smerch launchers, Igla-S missiles, and C4ISR systems.
  • China: Supplying radar systems and communication relays, helping create a contested electronic environment.
  • Iran: Providing drone technology, missile support (like Nasr-based CM-90 anti-ship missiles), and passive detection equipment.

    So…if America, theoretically, wanted to see what China’s electronic weapons where capable of before a Taiwan-like situation occurred, then Venezuela would be a pretty good real world text subject “if” Venezuela could be goaded into retaliation, so that America could retaliate against the retaliation? Something like that?
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For decades, the United States has relied on the Coast Guard’s unique legal authorities, backed by Navy support, to interdict drug shipments on the high seas. Those operations follow a predictable pattern: warning shots, disabling fire, boarding, seizure of evidence, and arrest. A patchwork of bilateral agreements ensures suspects face extradition and trial in U.S. federal courts….& now, not so much.

In the late 1990s, the Coast Guard created the Helicopter Interdiction Tactical Squadron (HITRON) to improve its ability to stop high-speed vessels. HITRON employs armed MH-65C Dolphin helicopters that apply graduated force against suspect vessels. Aircrews begin with sirens, loudspeakers, and hand signals to compel compliance.

If ignored, they escalate to warning bursts across the bow from mounted machine guns. Should the vessel continue flight, precision rifle fire—typically from a .50-caliber sniper rifle—is directed at the outboard engines to disable propulsion.

The approach works: By the early 2000s, HITRON boasted interdiction success rates of more than 90 percent. This model reflects a deliberate policy choice to preserve life and capture suspects for prosecution rather than destroy vessels and kill crews.

The approach lends itself to building criminal cases against organizations and their leaders, rather than taking out low-level operatives. It also allows careful management of relationships with countries known or believed to support narcotics trafficking. The model historically has resulted in high rates of efficient and successful criminal prosecutions.
 

Ron in Regina

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I think you mean "Which currency is Venezuela selling AMERICAN oil in?"
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I think you mean "Which currency is Venezuela selling AMERICAN Exxon-Mobil oil in?"
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ExxonMobil's global headquarters are in Spring, Texas, near Houston, but they operate worldwide with major hubs in places like the UK (Leatherhead) and Singapore, significant Canadian operations via Imperial Oil (Alberta/East Coast), and extensive oil/gas projects across the globe, from Guyana to the Permian Basin, plus thousands of branded retail stations across the U.S. and internationally.
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Ron in Regina

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Huh…sounds like there might be a second oil tanker (third in total) seized by America this weekend.
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The U.S. Coast Guard is pursuing an oil tanker in international waters near Venezuela, officials told Reuters on Sunday, in what would be the second such operation this weekend and the third in less than a week if successful? The officials, who were speaking on the condition of anonymity, did not give a specific location for the operation or name the vessel being pursued? I wonder if these will count as American oil imports?
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At this rate, Venezuela’s debt to Exxon Mobil will be cleared in a few weeks, assuming Trump doesn’t just gift those tankers and their contents to his buddies for stocking stuffers this Christmas.
 

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Huh… not finding any confirmation that they’ve (the U.S.) actually ‘caught’ a third oil tanker.

The U.S. Coast Guard is pursuing another non-U.S. tanker helping Venezuela skirt U.S. sanctions, U.S. official says.

The pursuit of the (assumably not U.S.) tanker, which was confirmed by a U.S. official briefed on the U.S. operation, comes after U.S. administration announced Saturday it (the U.S.) had seized a tanker for the second time in less than two weeks.
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The U.S. official, who was not authorized to comment publicly about the ongoing U.S. operation and spoke on the condition of U.S. anonymity, said Sunday's U.S. pursuit involved “a U.S. sanctioned dark fleet vessel that is part of Venezuela’s illegal (according to U.S.) sanctions evasion.”

The U.S. Coast Guard, with assistance from the U.S. Navy, seized a U.S. sanction tanker called Skipper on Dec. 10, another part of a shadow fleet of tankers that the U.S. says operates on the fringes (?) of the U.S. (?) law to move U.S. sanctioned cargo. It was not even flying a nation’s flag (not even the U.S.’s) when it was seized by the U.S. Coast Guard.

U.S. President Trump demanded that Venezuela return U.S. assets that it seized from U.S. oil companies years ago, justifying anew his announcement of a U.S. blockade” against oil tankers traveling to or from the South American country that face U.S. sanctions.
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Wait…what? Panamanian-flagged, not not flying a nation’s flag (?) that was on its way to (not from?) Venezuela…so the U.S. has now seized an oil tanker that’s not (?) hauling crude from Venezuela?
 

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So, does Venezuela, in its own territorial waters, have to seize 3 (or 6, or 9?) Chevron crude oil tankers to trade 1 for 1 for the oil tankers America has seized, with 1/2 a dozen held in reserve for future American seizures?

What’s the answer with respect of Venezuela’s own sovereignty?
 

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So, does Venezuela, in its own territorial waters, have to seize 3 (or 6, or 9?) Chevron crude oil tankers to trade 1 for 1 for the oil tankers America has seized, with 1/2 a dozen held in reserve for future American seizures?

What’s the answer with respect of Venezuela’s own sovereignty?
What will ultimately happen is Venezuela will bow down to America . How and how long it takes is yet to be determined.
 

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So, does Venezuela, in its own territorial waters, have to seize 3 (or 6, or 9?) Chevron crude oil tankers to trade 1 for 1 for the oil tankers America has seized, with 1/2 a dozen held in reserve for future American seizures?

What’s the answer with respect of Venezuela’s own sovereignty?
China. This is all about China.
 

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China. This is all about China.
Oh and if you're debil....

“We have the Iranian agents. We have terrorist groups such as Hezbollah, Hamas, operating freely in accordance with the regime”, Machado claimed in order to justify the US invasion of her nation.
 

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China. This is all about China.
Well, they’re not seizing tankers bound for England, or America, etc…China is the biggest buyer of Venezuelan crude, which accounts for roughly 4% of its imports.
But…but maybe China is a secondary thing too (?) and the goal is to just increase the world price of oil?
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Trump is reducing (from Venezuela anyway) some of the current world supply, so I wonder where he stands on a pipeline from Western Canada to the Pacific regardless of its route? I’m thinking we are gonna see huge pushback that ultimately can be tied back to the American government through NGO’s, American Billionaires, etc…

Anyway, back to the “third” empty oil tanker (Bella 1) approaching Venezuela, apparently at a maximum of about 10 kn, how long can America “pursue” this vessel without actually catching it?
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Well, they’re not seizing tankers bound for England, or America, etc…China is the biggest buyer of Venezuelan crude, which accounts for roughly 4% of its imports.
But…but maybe China is a secondary thing too (?) and the goal is to just increase the world price of oil?
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Trump is reducing (from Venezuela anyway) some of the current world supply, so I wonder where he stands on a pipeline from Western Canada to the Pacific regardless of its route? I’m thinking we are gonna see huge pushback that ultimately can be tied back to the American government through NGO’s, American Billionaires, etc…

Anyway, back to the “third” empty oil tanker (Bella 1) approaching Venezuela, apparently at a maximum of about 10 kn, how long can America “pursue” this vessel without actually catching it?
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Overview of Chinese Influence in Latin America

China's engagement with Latin America and the Caribbean (LAC) has expanded significantly over the past two decades, driven primarily by economic interests in resources, trade, and infrastructure. As of late 2025, China is South America's largest trading partner, with bilateral trade exceeding $500 billion annually in recent years (reaching $518 billion in 2024). This growth reflects China's demand for commodities like soybeans, copper, lithium, and oil, while providing LAC countries with investment and markets amid global uncertainties.

Economic Influence
Trade Dominance: China has surpassed the United States as the top trading partner for much of South America. Key exports from LAC to China include Brazilian soybeans (surging due to U.S.-China trade tensions), Peruvian copper, and Chilean lithium. In 2025, amid renewed U.S. tariffs under President Trump, LAC countries like Brazil and Argentina benefited from redirected Chinese demand.

Investments and Loans: Chinese state firms have invested heavily in energy, mining, infrastructure, and technology. Notable projects include the $3.5 billion Chancay megaport in Peru (operated by COSCO, inaugurated in 2024), which reduces shipping times to Asia and bypasses traditional routes. In May 2025, at the China-CELAC Forum in Beijing, President Xi Jinping announced a $9 billion credit line to boost infrastructure and promote yuan usage.

However, large-scale Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) projects have slowed, with LAC receiving only about 1% of global BRI investments in early 2025, shifting toward targeted sectors like renewables and electric vehicles.

BRI Participation: Over 20 LAC countries have joined the BRI, with Colombia signing on in 2025. This facilitates projects but has raised concerns about debt dependency.

Diplomatic and Cultural Influence
High-Level Engagement: China released its third policy paper on LAC in December 2025, emphasizing "shared future" cooperation in diplomacy, culture, security, and technology. Initiatives include scholarships, journalist exchanges, and visa-free travel for select countries (e.g., Argentina, Brazil, Peru since June 2025).

Taiwan Isolation: China has flipped several countries from recognizing Taiwan (e.g., Honduras, Nicaragua in recent years), leaving only seven LAC allies for Taipei.
Multilateral Forums: The China-CELAC mechanism has deepened ties, with the 2025-2027 Joint Action Plan focusing on solidarity, development, and people-to-people exchanges.

Military and Security Influence
China's military presence is growing but limited compared to economic ties. Activities include arms sales (e.g., to Venezuela), training programs for LAC officers (outpacing U.S. programs in some years), joint exercises (e.g., with Brazil in 2025), and humanitarian missions like hospital ship visits.
Security cooperation extends to cybersecurity, anti-corruption, and public safety equipment donations, appealing to high-crime regions.

U.S. Concerns and Counteractions
The United States views China's advances as a challenge to its traditional influence in the hemisphere. Concerns focus on:
Strategic infrastructure (e.g., Chancay port's potential dual-use for military purposes).
Debt traps and economic dependency.
Erosion of democratic norms through support for authoritarian regimes (e.g., Venezuela). In 2025, the Trump administration has pushed back aggressively: pressuring Panama on canal-related Chinese influence, warning allies against Huawei, and prioritizing regional security ties. Some sources argue this has reversed gains in countries like Argentina (canceling Chinese military deals) and strengthened U.S. alliances, while others note China's entrenched economic foothold makes full decoupling unlikely.

Overall, China's influence offers LAC economic opportunities but risks over-reliance and geopolitical tensions. Many countries hedge between Beijing and Washington, benefiting from competition while navigating U.S. pressures and China's "no-strings" approach. As of December 2025, ties remain robust, with China positioning itself as a reliable Global South partner amid shifting U.S. policies.
 
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I’m still sort of leaning towards Trump, trying to inflate the value of a barrel of oil, as it sort of makes sense in a weird and twisted way…as if Saudi Arabia was trying to choke out western oil production by opening the gates on their product production…Trump inflating the cost of oil and it’s derivatives would keep production going in America because…America (but not necessarily Americans?) First?

This also sort of fits with the whole Venezuela thing too, temporarily reducing or removing it from global supply, with the combined goal of temporarily increasing the global cost of oil, and hijacking, the biggest proven reserve on the planet currently to only deal predominantly with Texas…which also gives Trump leverage over Canada (heavy oil) going into the whole CUSMA/NAFTA/USMCA/LMNOP negotiations soon…so he can literally fuck over everybody at the same time, including the American citizens.
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I’m still sort of leaning towards Trump, trying to inflate the value of a barrel of oil, as it sort of makes sense in a weird and twisted way…as if Saudi Arabia was trying to choke out western oil production by opening the gates on their product production…Trump inflating the cost of oil and it’s derivatives would keep production going in America because…America (but not necessarily Americans?) First?

This also sort of fits with the whole Venezuela thing too, temporarily reducing or removing it from global supply, with the combined goal of temporarily increasing the global cost of oil, and hijacking, the biggest proven reserve on the planet currently to only deal predominantly with Texas…which also gives Trump leverage over Canada (heavy oil) going into the whole CUSMA/NAFTA/USMCA/LMNOP negotiations soon…so he can literally fuck over everybody at the same time, including the American citizens.
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It's the Zhous!

Yes, **blockades**—particularly naval blockades—are generally considered **acts of war** under international law.

A blockade involves one state (typically a belligerent) using military force to prevent vessels and aircraft from entering or exiting an enemy's ports or coastal areas. This interferes with neutral shipping and constitutes a belligerent operation.

### Legal Framework for Belligerent Blockades
- Sources like the **1909 London Declaration** (though unratified, reflective of custom), the **San Remo Manual** (1994, widely accepted as customary law), and scholarly works (e.g., Oxford Public International Law) define a blockade as a method of warfare available only during an armed conflict.

- It must meet strict criteria to be lawful: formal declaration, effective enforcement, impartial application to all vessels (including neutrals), and proportionality (e.g., not designed to starve civilians, which could constitute a war crime).

- Historical examples, such as Britain's blockades during the World Wars or the Union's blockade of the Confederacy in the American Civil War, were explicitly acts of war.

### Peacetime vs. Wartime Blockades
Imposing a blockade in **peacetime** (without an existing armed conflict) is typically viewed as an unlawful use of force under **Article 2(4) of the UN Charter**, potentially amounting to aggression (per UN General Assembly Resolution 3314, which lists blockades of ports or coasts as an example of aggression). This could justify self-defense by the targeted state under **Article 51**.

### Exceptions and Distinctions
- **Pacific blockades** (historical 19th-early 20th century practice, imposed without war to coerce a weaker state) are no longer considered lawful under modern law, as they involve force outside armed conflict.
- **UN-authorized blockades** (under Chapter VII, e.g., Article 42) are enforcement measures, not unilateral acts of war.

- Embargoes or sanctions are economic measures, not military blockades, and do not carry the same belligerent status.

In summary, while a properly conducted blockade during a lawful armed conflict is a legitimate tool of warfare, unilaterally declaring and enforcing one outside such a context is widely regarded as an act of war or unlawful aggression.
 

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I wonder if old Donnie is able to realize that with his trying go get even with Venezuela, does he realize that with a lot of people from Venezuelan living in USA, they could make his government life very difficult, let alone old Donnie’s personal life very difficult. I have some thoughts on how they could get his attention on what to change his ways of getting even with the world.
 

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I wonder if old Donnie is able to realize that with his trying go get even with Venezuela, does he realize that with a lot of people from Venezuelan living in USA, they could make his government life very difficult, let alone old Donnie’s personal life very difficult. I have some thoughts on how they could get his attention on what to change his ways of getting even with the world.
Well let’s hear them , should be informative .