The USA's future vice president publicly reveals cleavage and wears skanky shoes:
And you thought she was a wholesome soccer mom!
And you thought she was a wholesome soccer mom!
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The USA's future vice president publicly reveals cleavage and wears skanky shoes:
And you thought she was a wholesome soccer mom!
Yikes!!!!!!!If I was mcCains wife, I think I'd be asking some questions, but then
wasn't she the other woman once?
McCain is so boring and old, and such a poor speaker, that he probably wanted
to jazz up his campaign, I think he succeeded, at least for the short term.
I bet she doesn't do soccer in those shoes. Nice jar!
The seventeen-year-old pregnant and unwed daughter makes her human too
The seventeen-year-old pregnant and unwed daughter makes her human too
The media is trying to whip this 'pregnancy' story into a very nasty controversy
between parties, and they asked Obama about it, and he was noticeably irritated
that they would make such a thing part of the campaign, and stated that it is the
business of their family not the campaign.
Good for him.
The USA's future vice president publicly reveals cleavage and wears skanky shoes:
And you thought she was a wholesome soccer mom!
So Gopher, when did you convert to fundamental Islam?
You know, I thought a woman was allowed to be sexy in this society........
God, Bill clinton was forgiven sexual assault, you'd think you'd cut this lady a little slack for showing cleavage....
One thing that does bother me about this has been the 17 year old hiding her pregnancy with the disabled baby draped over her. It uses the child for political purposes, and somewhat deceitfully. It shouldn't be a political issue but she has been introduced as the conservative values VP and they've been parading the baby around as a screen for the 17-year old's stomach. There are a couple of ethical issues here that rub me the wrong way.
I think the media would do better to concentrate on the economy. It's not their place to sling mud ... and good for Obama seeing the personal side of it. She's going to have enough hassle with the rigid religious sect.
I'm going to head back into this Palin issue.
What is really at the heart of this is the Republicans forever inviting this debate and never missing an opportunity to attack an opponent for their values and personal choices. But here they are with hypocrisy spilling over, once again. Yes Obama is right, it shouldn't be an issue. That's a clear message to the Republicans who use family values as a political instrument. The party is simply nauseating. It's too bad a good man like McCain has to flip-flop, selling himself out from what he really believes to the bogus family value schemes and nonsensical pro-life movement in order to be electable.
What is really at the heart of this is the Republicans forever inviting this debate and never missing an opportunity to attack an opponent for their values and personal choices. But here they are with hypocrisy spilling over, once again. Yes Obama is right, it shouldn't be an issue. That's a clear message to the Republicans who use family values as a political instrument. The party is simply nauseating. It's too bad a good man like McCain has to flip-flop, selling himself out from what he really believes to the bogus family value schemes and nonsensical pro-life movement in order to be electable.
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"So Gopher, when did you convert to fundamental Islam? "
Hey Colpy - you are the Republican party's biggest defender on this forum and repeatedly show the same bias. But just for the moment, imagine if this was a Democrat - what the hell would you and other right wingers be saying? You know damn well you would be applying quite a different standard.
As always, the same hypocrisy, the same double standards.
Hey Colpy - you are the Republican party's biggest defender on this forum and repeatedly show the same bias. But just for the moment, imagine if this was a Democrat - what the hell would you and other right wingers be saying? You know damn well you would be applying quite a different standard.
As always, the same hypocrisy, the same double standards.
"She's going to have enough hassle with the rigid religious sect. "
Not really. Just today the radical right wingers in the "Christian {sic} Coalition" endorsed her despite her morally shaky past.
No surprise as they are all given to the same type of conduct as hers with their usual double standards.
Not really. Just today the radical right wingers in the "Christian {sic} Coalition" endorsed her despite her morally shaky past.
No surprise as they are all given to the same type of conduct as hers with their usual double standards.
I can't vote in this pole. I think both candidates are terrible and I hope neither wins. They are so bad in fact they remind me of cartoon characters.
Yes, I noticed that too. I felt uncomfortable for them, as it then became quite ob vious
why the baby was there. They will learn now, how the media are, and how they
would be so 'excited' to find some 'juicy gossip', and yes, it looked silly to see the baby
perched right on her tummy, for obvious reasons, and it seems that now they are going
to have to explain away this story, and that's too bad, but it seems McCain perhaps should
have thought this over a 'little' longer before making his pick, but maybe that is just what
he was after, 'any kind of attention' to detract from the obama frenzy, and a reason to
get that media attention he has been without all throughout this campaign. With her and
her family all around, McCain looks like the grampa to all of them.;-)
I think a guy with a white cane would have spotted her pregnancy at 250 meters......if they were trying to hide it, they were doing a very poor job....
I don't think there was any deceit at all going on, I mean they could have just not included her, and anyone sensible knows her pregnancy is going to become more and more visible......it was going to be found out, why would they hide it? And they didn't hide it.
As for her carrying her baby brother....I thought that was only sensible.....on the job training, as it were.
Funny, if they were DEms, and it was discovered their little honey had an abortion, and it was publicized, everyone would be up in arms about invasion of privacy, etc.
Well, I think the double standard applies to everyone.....and yeah, I like McCain.
The gloss has been off Bush for a long time.
I think both nominees have their good points.......
And I think Obama handled the situation exactly correctly, kudos to him, as I said above.
Dude, chill, he wasn't saying she was sleeping with him.... and not to mention, they're just words in regards to comparisons to Bush and Hitler, not your wife and Hitler... there wasn't any offense available in that sentence for you to fly off the handle as you just did..... oh, and not to mention, freedom of expression, opinion, speech, etc. etc.... where's you're tolerance? Did you check it at the door?
Oh that makes perfect sense..... we don't know anything about US politics? You live right beside us, a good chunk of our media and TV comes from the US, wtf do you think has been filling our airwaves for the last year+?
Sesame Street?
And Stay out of your wifes business? You're the one who brought it up in the first place.... deal with it. If you were gonna get all upity and pissy about someone commenting on what you said in reference to your wife, then perhaps you should have re-thought mentioning it if it was gonna piss you off so badly.
You got nobody else to blame but yourself.
None of that is really Mavrick, let alone left.... it's all hypocritical from the start, as he's gone back and forth, who the hell knows where he actually stands.
But how about some better examples of why they call him a Mavrick, such as how he was when he was in the military, how much he slacked off in his studies with such things as how to blow the cockpit when you want to eject, which he narrowly escaped with his life, because he didn't remember his training?
How about the fact that he's always been known for wanting to fly solo and without a team or co-pilot? Doesn't sound like someone I'd want as a leader of my country.
They're not in tune with much at all.
And the fact that his vice pick is all pro-life and doesn't believe in abortions for any excuse, etc... when in the same breath, her 17 year old daughter gets pregnant and obviously forced into marriage to keep her mother's political image in good standing during these times...... which I also assume her daughter is a victim of that same mentality of abstinence over proper sexual education, like millions of other teens in the US.......
..... not to mention she was a last ditch pick by McCain to sweep in some extra votes here and there, being a younger woman to cancel out his older man apperance.....
Here's a simple question for people in the US: If McCain dies from some reason or another, would you want this lady, with her paticular values, and lack of experience.... to be in charge of your nation and military?
She seems like a nut job ready to go loco once she has power, and McCain is still pretty well the same old routine of government that has been in practice in the last 8 or so years(Seems like practice anyways, being nothing I would call a government.)
To the original question:
Is Obama good enough to run the US? Or McCain?? I don't really trust either pick. It's still gonna be the Good Cop / Bad Cop routine in office, there is a load of commercialization of various celebrities for whichever party can buy their acting off, and soap opera tactics which remind me of a crappy wrestling match. You feed the nation a defunked government, be that by political riggin or propaganda, and then give them so much of what they hate until it hits the breaking point and just about everybody loses hope in their government...... then you toss out a half-black guy who speaks of change and dreams being met, put him against an old fart who plans more of the same as before.... and people suck it up like flies on sugar...... only to be screwed over again... and again....
If, hypothetically, each candidate planned to hold true to what they promise and say they will do, then Obama would be the lesser of two evils....
..... but does anybody else find it a bit interesting that now our Canadian Government is planning to run their elections almost at the exact same time as the US elections?
November 4, 2008 is when the US election is going to take place..... and if things stay the way they are, our election will be October 14th, 2008.......
What impacts do you think one may have on the other?
The USA's future vice president publicly reveals cleavage and wears skanky shoes:
And you thought she was a wholesome soccer mom!
Well with the pregnant teen daughter, I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.....
Not to mention that footage of her shooting a few rounds off with an M4.... isn't it sorta contradicting when someone is pro-life and against abortions, yet at the same time, loves and promotes the use and rights of owning and operating a weapon designed to kill?
Guess those babies will make good target practice when they get older.
(Come on, you all knew someone was gonna say it eventually
)
Explain something to me: How does one force a 17 year old to marry in the USA? To say nothing of the act of forcing her future husband......the entire idea of "force" is silly. The immense attention to this "issue" is stupid. Obama was perfectly correct when he discounted the entire thing as unworthy of attention.
Now, here is something to get your teeth into: Palin is accused in an ethics investigation. It is alledged that she fired the director of Public Safety in Alaska because he refused to fire a certain State Trooper......who had divorced Palin's sister. Now THAT deserves some attention, but is lost in the belly debate.
Idiocy!
As for the Canadian election.....I see no connection......Harper thinks this is an advantageous time to go, and has stomped all over his own "principles', and the will of Parliament as expressed in law, to do so. And I'm a Conservative Party member. I'm pissed.
But I'll vote CPC. There simply is no other sane choice.
BTW, Harper is probably correct, the Globe and Mail today quotes polls that put him within touching distance of a majority gov't.
Damn it, I hope he gets a majority.
(sigh)
I agree with the human aspect, but for running the country, that's a big deal.... to me, it shows that her principles and values don't seem to work.
And her daughter ins't getting married by her own choice, and if it is by her own choice, it's misinformed and a short-sighted perspective. Coming from a family which was created through a forced marriage by the parents, which in the end failed, I know directly that getting married, just because there is a pregnancy isn't the answer, nor is it a sure fired way of making sure the child will have a good life.
On the contrary, it usually ends up with more fighting, more division and more resentment within the houshold, due to the decisions being made for them, not by them.
Why? Because it helps make the parents of the pregnant couple feel that they didn't screw up in their parenting, and passes the buck off to the minors/teenagers, who wern't given the proper education to protect themselves from their own actions in the first place.
And it wasn't just my own direct experiences, but also those through my uncles, aunts, cousins, friends and many other examples of many families ending up in divorce due to being created out of a forced marriage.... frankly, that type of system just doesn't work.
It's a balance of costs...... a cost of that child's happiness and well being at the expense of the couple's parents forcing their morals to save their own face as being good parents.
There's already a plague in the US with teen pregnancies and STD's.... and she is certainly not going to be a solution to this problem if she's brought into office.