US Government is Closed!
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The same God who wants you to "Kill a Commie for Christ"? Your post is absolute Republican bullschmidt. Before the Industrial Revolution the landed gentry were the oppressors of the common man. Since then it has been the owners of capital - same position in society, different circumstance. The only protection from oppression available in the western democracies today is government of the people, by the people and for the people. That is much different from the US position of government of and for business. The right wing that wants powerless government wants it so they can be the power in society. No thanks. The conservative position is an attempt to gather all power unto themselves. The economy needs the check and balance of good government.
Tober: Dems are not for the working class, middle class, upper class or those most hated 1 percenters. The dems are for the fastest growing class in America. That would be the slackers that are draining the taxpayers dry. Don't be bamboozled by the dems. The day the taxpayer isn't considered the common man is the day all the government subsidies and entitlements will end. We are getting very close as we are outnumbered by those who spend their days scheming to get the latest and greatest entitlement.
I've noticed you like those two words and you fling them around often enough. So, do you have good government?
Riiiight. All people but you righties are slackers and welfare bums. I agree with you in a sense - America is so corrupt that your left wing is far right of our right wing. But that doesn't create an insoluble problem. The right is the least trustworthy, the worst of a bad bunch. It is the party of the owners of capital. You have your ideology and that's fine. You capitalists disrespect us, just like Mutt Rimney said. We commoners outnumber you. You can outspend us. We can out vote you. Check and balance.
Should I care?
You do not speak Canadian. I am not interested in teaching y'all. Check and balance.
Americans have been at each other's throats struggling over a shrinking economic pie since Reagan. Too many people, mostly the uneducated, haven't caught on yet that the right is the rich man's party. Only the left concentrates on the commoners. Are leftist leaders selfish elitists? Sure, but at least they're our selfish elitists. The only long term successful strategy for people today is to support the left in public and discipline its leaders between elections.
Do you know who Jon Corzine is?
The only long term successful strategy for people is to abandon all loyalty and affection for the USA. Screw it.
The American right especially expresses a selfish "why should I care about you" objection to our style of Medicare. Under the details in your post, if my income is 134% of poverty I can't afford full health care coverage and a full, balanced diet if I have a large family. I can't get full affordable health coverage unless I have a job. America restricts full health coverage to only those who are working for the right employers. I don't want to be beholden to the owners of capital to afford full health coverage. I don't want my boss to have that kind of leverage over me. Doing so might have given America a strong economy (at one time), but it hasn't helped the American middle and working classes. That is not "liberty and freedom". We'll stick with Canadian democracy. We are free to vote for it without being condemned as "commie" by our right wing.
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I personally think the best and most effective way to manage healthcare in both Canada and the US is to have employers pay a fixed amount premium for each employee regardless of how many hours they work. This means anyone with a job is automatically covered fully. Those who are unemployed or unemployable will be covered by social programs like medicare/medicaid and those again would provide full coverage. The benefits of this type of plan are you only need 1 insurer/administrator for everyone in the country, premiums would be regulated and equal for everyone and it would encourage employers to hire more full-time workers, which is better for people and the economy, as it would save them money by having less employees as opposed to the current system of having 3 part-time workers so they don't have to pay any benefits.
There's that kinder, gentler, bigoted, rude, uneducated demagogue I've heard exists in the Great White North. What you need to do is educate yourself, try and think before you speak, it will minimize your lies and deceits.
It's not a bad idea, PC, but small businesses will have a rough time with it.
Yes, you do that, it is a very weird version of real democracy.
Curious why you refuse to abandon the inferno that is all around you.
Wait a sec? If the people already have full and equal coverage before they get the job, why does Canada need another bureaucracy tracking people from job to job? If they have equal coverage, why should anything change? If they don't have equal coverage, they should have. We have now. Canada does not need a fascist system like America's giving health coverage bonuses to people with jobs with companies. Amongst other things, the self employed who are already paying EI without getting coverage get screwed again.
All that because I wouldn't answer your question? I thought you yanks were against giveaways? If you want an education about Canada go pay for one. I'm not interested in teaching you.
If I didn't like what was happening in Canada, I would not go on a yank site and attack Canada. Your posts come across as disgraceful. If we gave you sympathy here you'd turn against us as soon as you didn't get what you want. Your posts are so pathetic they're not worth ignoring.
You make it sound like nobody who is self-employed can claim EI when in fact they can, they just have to meet a more stringent standard to qualify which prevents fraud and abuse.
Under the scheme I propose for healthcare you would actually be better of as self-employed as your premium would be the same as everyone else. Essentially you would be getting a subsidy from the rest of Canada. The other benefit would be to make it a national program so 13 bureaucracies become 1 and it wouldn't make a difference what province you were in or where you lived your coverage would remain the same.
I saw a pod of humpback whales at Sunny Cove on Monterey Bay today. I spend an hour watching them with field glasses. I also saw California sea lions, harbor seals, sea otters, one marbled murrelet, and a mixed collection of around twenty five thousand brown pelicans, double crested cormorants, herring gulls, California gulls, Caspian terns. pigeon guillemots, and other seabirds I couldn't identify working a bait ball of anchovies so plentiful that the water writhed with fish. I also saw shorebirds including snowy egrets, black turnstones, whimbrels, plovers, and other shorebirds I couldn't identify. I'm a bird watcher in one of the richest and most diverse habitats on earth.
After that a buddy and I hiked about a mile in the meadows and redwoods at the University of California at Santa Cruz campus. Then we stopped at a craft brewery and tasting room. In other words I've detached my emotions from the country and created a separate reality involving family, friends, and nature.
We all have to vent. Otherwise we retain the poison of emotions.
CC is no longer a Canadian site. It is a North American site. Despite what you may think I truly like Canadians. They remind me of the honesty and honor that was once found in America. Besides, my bloodline stretches back to Kipling, Saskatchewan south of Regina. Most of my surviving blood relatives live in an arc stretching from Vancouver to Halifax.
I understand that you don't find me charming. I can't say I blame you. But then again, we are anonymous strangers without any impact on each other. So just put me on ignore. Problem solved.
Finally, I'm not looking for sympathy. I'm here to vent. You should see the way I talk to fellow Americans on US sites.
All Americans should have health care. However, it can only be acceptable if done in a fashion which doesn't further empower Leviathan. If the American military were cut to the bone there would be plenty of money to fund health care without interfering in my family's existing health insurance. Besides, slashing the military budget weakens the US govt. That's a good thing. Win/win.
Will US hospitals become charities that raffle off houses to buy incubators like Canadian hospitals?
Hospitals in the US will probably end up raffling off babies. They're cheaper than houses. Jk.
Do me a favor and don't speak for 'Canadians' - This seems like your individual problem
... That's the fun part - 'Good Government' is exclusively defined by the ideological position of the individual making the statement. The poster to whom you had directed ths comment seems to have a dependency on socialism; demanding that 'society' provide an ever escalating base level of services while simultaneously demanding that the economy be crippled to service his preferred hobby-horses.
It's a pipe-dream at best, one that was founded on the age of entitlement and despite that reality that the practical application failed on an epic level in the (former) USSR, they still cling to the fantasy of this utopia
That sounds really good, Nick, but it won't work.............why should a guy hire a full time employee when he only has need for a part time employee? That makes no sense. That happened with the B.C. Govt. back in the early 2000s, employees were being paid full time plus benefits for working 2-3 hours per day. Pretty soon the money ran out and many of them got laid off.
Hospitals in the US will probably end up raffling off babies. They're cheaper than houses. Jk.
I'm a little baffled as to why you continue to live in the U.S.A. Maybe I've missed some of your posts but I frankly can't remember you saying one good thing about the U.S. Why don't you spare yourself the misery and relocate? Somalia or Iraq are a couple of places that come to mind where you might be happy. -
If an employer has no need for a full time person they do not have to hire one but they will still pay the same premium for healthcare. Where the big difference would be seen is in bigger corps like wal-mart and superstore who hire 75% of their people at just below fulltime levels to avoid paying benefits. If they are forced to pay healthcare premiums at the same level for every employee it no longer makes sense to have 50 part-timers when you could do the same job with 25 or 30 full-timers.
Name me one right wing foundation that stepped forward with the cash to keep those monuments open..
