Ugly American Goes Into Hiding After Killing Cecil The Lion

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I recently read about the latest backlash for an American female trophy hunter who'd bagged a very large older giraffe. She described the creature as beautiful. What I can't get my mind around is how someone could see such beauty and then want to kill it? I can understand seeing the beauty and taking a picture to show everyone the beauty you saw, but to kill it?

I doubt if these people were honour students in Logic 101. :)
 

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Would that be the same Sir Roger Moore who said that a Scottish Bond, a Welsh Bond, and even an Irish Bond were fine, but Idris Alba, born and raised in London, shouldn't play Bond because he's not "English English" enough?

Hint: Alba's black.

Maybe Sir Roger should found WRATH - White Racists Against Trophy Hunting.
 

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Please do.

Here it is, had you forgotten?

"clearly his brain is full of manure...

he's lucky Bodacious has been retired. I am not a fan of bull riding, but I liked watching Bodacious head slam the riders. He was a smart bull.

Here's a tribute to Bodacious (at about 2:42 mark you get a really clear view of what made him so dangerous. He was able to maneuver the rider into a position where they'd have their face slammed into his head.)"
 

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Here it is, had you forgotten?

"clearly his brain is full of manure...

he's lucky Bodacious has been retired. I am not a fan of bull riding, but I liked watching Bodacious head slam the riders. He was a smart bull.

Here's a tribute to Bodacious (at about 2:42 mark you get a really clear view of what made him so dangerous. He was able to maneuver the rider into a position where they'd have their face slammed into his head.)"

No, hadn't forgotten. Where does it say I don't care about humans?

Would that be the same Sir Roger Moore who said that a Scottish Bond, a Welsh Bond, and even an Irish Bond were fine, but Idris Alba, born and raised in London, shouldn't play Bond because he's not "English English" enough?

Hint: Alba's black.

Maybe Sir Roger should found WRATH - White Racists Against Trophy Hunting.

Oh Idris should play Bond...he was so good as Luther...and he is so hot he'd make an excellent Bond.
 

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Not if Sir Roger has anything to say about it. See, Alba's not "English English."

he is english.Born in London. LONDON!!. And he's hot hot and sexy as hell...all the things that James Bond has to be. Plus, the following actors who've played james bond were/aree not english.

Barry Nelson: American
George Lazenby: Australian (AUSTRALIAN!!)
Pierce Brosnan: Irish American
Sean Connery: Scottish (and still the best)
 

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he is english.Born in London. LONDON!!. And he's hot hot and sexy as hell...all the things that James Bond has to be. Plus, the following actors who've played james bond were/aree not english.

Barry Nelson: American
George Lazenby: Australian (AUSTRALIAN!!)
Pierce Brosnan: Irish American
Sean Connery: Scottish (and still the best)

Wrong. Pierce Brosnan is not Irish American. He's Irish. Born and raised in Dublin's fair city.

You forgot Timothy Dalton, Welsh.
 

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Would that be the same Sir Roger Moore who said that a Scottish Bond, a Welsh Bond, and even an Irish Bond were fine, but Idris Alba, born and raised in London, shouldn't play Bond because he's not "English English" enough?

Hint: Alba's black.

Maybe Sir Roger should found WRATH - White Racists Against Trophy Hunting.

Good point. When they make the Life Story of P Diddy movie, we should insist that the lead be played by a Lapplander.


Bond is specifically Scottish. He is not Othello.
 

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Palmer is not going to get extradited as the government there has virtually no case against him. However, it appears that his hunting guides are in a heap of trouble. Tough sh!t for them I say.
 

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Palmer is not going to get extradited as the government there has virtually no case against him. However, it appears that his hunting guides are in a heap of trouble. Tough sh!t for them I say.

That is probably the wisest choice, Palmer is just a goof, unfortunately not a criminal. His dental practice is pretty well pooched, we don't want to force him on to welfare.
 

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So how does it work?
The receiving government generally doesn't evaluate the case against the accused. Trying the accused is the role of the requesting government. Generally, the receiving government will simply hand over the accused, unless the accused raises affirmative defenses, such as no grounds for the case at all, corruption or other lack of due process in the requesting country, or violations of the receiving country's public policy, such as capital punishment (the U.S. has a lot of trouble extraditing alleged criminals from other countries because we have capital punishment).

Extradition is procedural, not substantive.
 
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The receiving government generally doesn't evaluate the case against the accused. Trying the accused is the role of the requesting government. Generally, the receiving government will simply hand over the accused, unless the accused raises affirmative defenses, such as no grounds for the case at all, corruption or other lack of due process in the requesting country, or violations of the receiving country's public policy, such as capital punishment (the U.S. has a lot of trouble extraditing alleged criminals from other countries because we have capital punishment).

Extradition is procedural, not substantive.

(the U.S. has a lot of trouble extraditing alleged criminals from other countries because we have capital punishment).

That is interesting, I've always maintained that if you go into another country to commit crimes it is your responsibility to know the penalty for the crime you are committing and if you don't feel you are up to accepting the punishment, don't commit the crime. That seems pretty simple to me. I think Countries should keep their noses out of another country's laws and penal code.
 

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(the U.S. has a lot of trouble extraditing alleged criminals from other countries because we have capital punishment).

That is interesting, I've always maintained that if you go into another country to commit crimes it is your responsibility to know the penalty for the crime you are committing and if you don't feel you are up to accepting the punishment, don't commit the crime. That seems pretty simple to me. I think Countries should keep their noses out of another country's laws and penal code.
I agree, but the thinking is that if a country has decided the death penalty is unjust, then it has a duty to protect its citizens from such injustice, even if they have committed crimes.

For example, If a country passed laws that said a thief was to have his hand cut off, and a Canadian was accused of stealing something in that country, but now he's back in Canada, would it be Canada's duty to turn him over to be mutilated if found guilty, or to protect him from what Canada has decided is a cruel and unjust punishment?

Don't matter what your answer is, that's just how you should think about it. Good arguments on both sides.
 

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(the U.S. has a lot of trouble extraditing alleged criminals from other countries because we have capital punishment).

That is interesting, I've always maintained that if you go into another country to commit crimes it is your responsibility to know the penalty for the crime you are committing and if you don't feel you are up to accepting the punishment, don't commit the crime. That seems pretty simple to me. I think Countries should keep their noses out of another country's laws and penal code.

Canada will not extradite to the US without the Americans removing the death penalty from the table (which the US has done).

If you commit the crime in the US and are caught in the US, you will face the death penalty.
 

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I agree, but the thinking is that if a country has decided the death penalty is unjust, then it has a duty to protect its citizens from such injustice, even if they have committed crimes.

For example, If a country passed laws that said a thief was to have his hand cut off, and a Canadian was accused of stealing something in that country, but now he's back in Canada, would it be Canada's duty to turn him over to be mutilated if found guilty, or to protect him from what Canada has decided is a cruel and unjust punishment?

Don't matter what your answer is, that's just how you should think about it. Good arguments on both sides.

Personally, I'd think twice before stealing in another country if I was about to lose a hand.