U.S. Supreme Court has ruled....
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Boomer – I strongly disagree – Look at my tag line on my Avatar – Certifiable & with papers – And Yes I can be an arsehoxl at times. Like when I get out of bed on the wrong side. Mind you things have improved since moving the bed away from the wall, the wall with the window, 2 stories down. Getting up on that side was Not a Good Way to start your day – Go to work, grumpy, people would ask, what’s wrong get up on the wrong side of the bed. I am sure they were spying on me, ya know.
One of the many problems with believing in free speech and a bunch of other rights is that you wind up having to protect the rights of those you profoundly disagree with.
I'd rather have that problem than the problem of having to stifle what I can say. But you're right, I've probably spent more time defending the right of people to say things that I find personally abhorent than anything else.
One problem we have with free speech are some love to pick the flyshxt from the pepper.
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well.....I keep being told that Bear, RCS, you, ironsides, goober, etc have ALL fought for my rights, my freedoms. Do we all, including westboro nutcases, not have the same rights? The same freedoms that you all keep saying you have fought for? Or do some have more rights and freedoms than others?
We all have the right to demonstrate or do we lose that having served?
Or is it just right to have a demonstration say for Aryan Nations without a countering pint of view.
Or just for, pick one - For or against Abortion - Only have room for one at a time.
If you limit THEIR right to speak as they please, then what's to stop someone from keeping YOU from speaking as you please?
Much as I despise these idiots, I always believed that they had the RIGHT to do what they do. AAnd no, you do NOT have the right to shoot them, even if they step onto your property. That's a REAL fast way to go to prison, for a LONG time.
And NO, I DIDN'T vote for Obama. I just respect the right of everyone to free speech, not just the people who's ideas I happen to agree with.
I spent 10 years in the US Army supporting people's right to free speech. I didn't object to the "Anti-War" Kooks who held up signs saying "Too Bad They Didn't Kill You" when I was med-evaced to Valley Forge General Hospital. I thought what they were saying was pretty damn sick, but I absolutely supported their right to say it.
You can't have it half way, so that only the folks YOU agree with have the right. Either everyone has it, or in fact no one has it.
Much as I despise these idiots, I always believed that they had the RIGHT to do what they do. AAnd no, you do NOT have the right to shoot them, even if they step onto your property. That's a REAL fast way to go to prison, for a LONG time.
And NO, I DIDN'T vote for Obama. I just respect the right of everyone to free speech, not just the people who's ideas I happen to agree with.
I spent 10 years in the US Army supporting people's right to free speech. I didn't object to the "Anti-War" Kooks who held up signs saying "Too Bad They Didn't Kill You" when I was med-evaced to Valley Forge General Hospital. I thought what they were saying was pretty damn sick, but I absolutely supported their right to say it.
You can't have it half way, so that only the folks YOU agree with have the right. Either everyone has it, or in fact no one has it.
I guess you don't understand what those soldiers paid 'the ultimate cost' for then.
I will be there with you.
There are rights and there are rights, look what happens when someone interrupts Congress or the President, they are removed by the Secret Service. Those solders and their families deserve peace and respect even more.
In this case as well as a few horrendous crimes yes, it becomes personal. The government won't protect you, do it yourself. I will take my chances with the courts for my actions.
No surprise........ I'll defend the constitution and the peoples rights............................. as long as I agree with it.
It used to be that the religious and the atheists, agreed on something. That was that funerals
were sacred. Ignorance knows no bounds in my view. For example, in the case of a dead
soldier, who did go and fight for his or her country, there death in my view is protest enough.
Seeing people laid in the ground on both sides of any conflict is really an indictment on
all sides that mankind continues to fail the ultimate test of humanity.
Is it success humanly to be allowed to protest at a sacred solemn ceremony disrespecting
the legacy of someone who died for what they believe? Is it any better or worse to want to go
and kill someone because they are ignorant?
What the hell does that say about us as a people? See I have always believed that power or
rights comes with another counter balance weight, its called responsibility.
We have a long way to go as the human race and we sure are demonstrating that we are going
to take our time about reaching our goals.
were sacred. Ignorance knows no bounds in my view. For example, in the case of a dead
soldier, who did go and fight for his or her country, there death in my view is protest enough.
Seeing people laid in the ground on both sides of any conflict is really an indictment on
all sides that mankind continues to fail the ultimate test of humanity.
Is it success humanly to be allowed to protest at a sacred solemn ceremony disrespecting
the legacy of someone who died for what they believe? Is it any better or worse to want to go
and kill someone because they are ignorant?
What the hell does that say about us as a people? See I have always believed that power or
rights comes with another counter balance weight, its called responsibility.
We have a long way to go as the human race and we sure are demonstrating that we are going
to take our time about reaching our goals.
It seems like the some of the people who are quite willing to accept the legality of the westboro church actions against soldiers' funerals are the ones who were vehemently against Terry Jones' quran burning.
They are both freedom of expression, with one difference,
One action is an affront to the families of those who gave their life for their country....and the other an affront to muslims...... which wouldn't be politicaly correct:roll:
They are both freedom of expression, with one difference,
One action is an affront to the families of those who gave their life for their country....and the other an affront to muslims...... which wouldn't be politicaly correct:roll:
I'm seeing it the other way, those that defended the quran burning are quite intolerant of the westboro morons.