Even though he already fought once over there in a tour..... some how he's scum to you because he won't keep going? Nice.
U.S. soldiers seeking refugee status in Canada
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Even though he already fought once over there in a tour..... some how he's scum to you because he won't keep going? Nice.
Do you now? All those homeless vets we hear about.... those who lost their benifits or medical coverages for their injuries substained during battle due to loopholes in the system or the VA's lack of ability to actually care for those soldiers?
Study finds that veterans constitute a quarter of America’s homeless
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21678030/
"Veterans make up one in four homeless people in the United States, though they are only 11 percent of the general adult population, according to a report to be released Thursday....."
How the U.S. Is Failing Its War Veterans
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17316437/site/newsweek/page/2/print/1/displaymode/1098/
I think your troops deserve more then this (Backing/Supporting your troops - Jab at the Government - Not Jab at the Country in whole so you know)
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Fair enough if that is your stance and you are equally willing to take that challenge along with them, who am I to argue.
However.... if the above was to hold true and most believed in it in your country, shouldn't there be a organization or monitoring/safe guards to make sure you all get sent off to fight the right wars? Shouldn't there be some protection of the people to make sure that your leaders who make these sorts of decisions be kept in check?
If there is one currently in place, it needs to be revamped, cuz it didn't help much so far. And if the Draft was brought back in and these leaders continue to go unchecked and escape impeachment, then I'd say you'd have a big problem on your hands.
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One thing I did sorta pick up on about the Oath and Contract explinations here.... you sign a contract, you're stuck with it apparently.
Too bad Marriages arn't like that..... er.... wait a min.
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Read many of the horror stories of how the veterans are very 'shabbily' treated when trying to get the help their deserve and need. Once their service is over, they are
screwed every chance the government get. The only way some of them could get the
help they needed was to bring it to the attention of the press, and then the government
is shamed into doing the right thing.
Karrie
You sweet bright young thing...
It's a good thing you're spoken for.....
I'm guilty as hell, a cynic through and through...absolutely.
As cynical as I am however I'm prepared to entertain any argument that anyone feels capable of demonstrating that two wrongs somehow make a "right"....
You sweet bright young thing...
It's a good thing you're spoken for.....
I'm guilty as hell, a cynic through and through...absolutely.
As cynical as I am however I'm prepared to entertain any argument that anyone feels capable of demonstrating that two wrongs somehow make a "right"....
As cynical as I am however I'm prepared to entertain any argument that anyone feels capable of demonstrating that two wrongs somehow make a "right"....
I don't know, but three lefts do, that I'm sure of.
And maybe those recruiters who hang around universities and high schools, and
badger and coerce young not so smart or rich men and women, and tell them over and
over that they will build them a future, if they enlist in the military, just maybe they
should back off, and give these young people a chance to learn and know just what they
are getting into. There youth and ignorance are just what the recruiters are looking for,
cause then they are in a uniform quicker than a wink, and all of a sudden they are in iraq,
and 'what was that the recruiter told us', um, , geezus i'm really scared, I wasn't thinking
about this happening to me, what is it we're fighting for?, I don't even know what the
fight is about anyway, i'm cold, i'm lonely, i don't dare say anything, don't want to look
like a coward.
Those are the thoughts of a normal young person, thrown into the jaws of an ugly
illegal war, that george friggin bush and his henchmen invented.
It's not enough it seems that four thousand young men and women died and many more will while the champions and captains of industry identified in the link provided in my previous post, but that Americans fail the capacity to identify their own culpability in promulgating the lies of honor and "duty" these scoundrels have used to futher their personal interests.
It's just too bad that a youngster like our newest young contributor will eventually be sacrificed in the name of the god he so vigorously embraces. A 'double-whammy' so to speak.... "IN GOD WE TRUST" and/or AMERICAS WAR ON TERRORISM....
Truly heart rending....
It's just too bad that a youngster like our newest young contributor will eventually be sacrificed in the name of the god he so vigorously embraces. A 'double-whammy' so to speak.... "IN GOD WE TRUST" and/or AMERICAS WAR ON TERRORISM....
Truly heart rending....
That all sounds grand, in world war two, or the civil war, but this war is 'illegal', was
cooked up for a 'no good cause' by a 'no good president', so, just because the president who
is just a human being, behaves in a way that is shameful to the rest of the world, does
that still mean that 'all' who are participating have to 'bow and scrape' and say 'yes sir'
'of course sir'. NO, at that point, the ones who decide to 'DO SOMETHING' other than
keep fighting, for nothing, and continue killing innocent people, for nothing, become
the ones who have the 'guts' to speak up, or take action, they are not cowards, they
are the ones who make the difference, and get the ball rolling to get the war ENDED.
The more attention tha t is brought to this war, the better it is, these people have
killed far too many people allready, someone or something has to STOP them.
I do not admire 'blind obedience'.
Talloola
D'day
I've been labelled a cynic because I tell the truth...and because I deserve it....
The truth that applies to your appeal is that no Canadian and no American feels there's anything they can do to stop anything much less a war of conquest and war-profiteering in the Middle East Afghanistan and Iraq.
Understand here Tallola... We didn't pay any attention of any kind to what's happening on the other side of this planet until a gang of criminal Saudi terrorists brought it to our attention in New York City....
Hand out the crying towels and plaster another ribbon on your car....that's about as much effort as you'll see from anyone.
Where are the Timothy McVeighs of the world when we need them?
D'day
I've been labelled a cynic because I tell the truth...and because I deserve it....
The truth that applies to your appeal is that no Canadian and no American feels there's anything they can do to stop anything much less a war of conquest and war-profiteering in the Middle East Afghanistan and Iraq.
Understand here Tallola... We didn't pay any attention of any kind to what's happening on the other side of this planet until a gang of criminal Saudi terrorists brought it to our attention in New York City....
Hand out the crying towels and plaster another ribbon on your car....that's about as much effort as you'll see from anyone.
Where are the Timothy McVeighs of the world when we need them?
Talloola
D'day
I've been labelled a cynic because I tell the truth...and because I deserve it....
The truth that applies to your appeal is that no Canadian and no American feels there's anything they can do to stop anything much less a war of conquest and war-profiteering in the Middle East Afghanistan and Iraq.
Understand here Tallola... We didn't pay any attention of any kind to what's happening on the other side of this planet until a gang of criminal Saudi terrorists brought it to our attention in New York City....
Hand out the crying towels and plaster another ribbon on your car....that's about as much effort as you'll see from anyone.
Where are the Timothy McVeighs of the world when we need them?
There is an election this november that could change everything, hopefully. If
that wasn't going to happen, I think the time has arrived for people to start
rising up, and demanding that their government get back into line, bri ng those
soldiers home, and try to patch their country up. The iraqis now will have to figure
out how to fix their own country, the u.s. can't do it, they are pretending they can,
but that is just political b.s. to keep their own people quiet, and save face, hoping
something positive happens before something awful happens to them.
The situation in iraq is a joke, just follow the happenings on the ground in Basra,
nevermind Bagdad, which is also a mess.
What was it McCain said, "maybe 100 years", sorry, McCain, your sort of a nice guy
but not that nice. There are lots of families with young boys/girls who will of
age soon, hope they are paying attention. Cast your vote for sanity and peace.
Talloola
D'day
I've been labelled a cynic because I tell the truth...and because I deserve it....
The truth that applies to your appeal is that no Canadian and no American feels there's anything they can do to stop anything much less a war of conquest and war-profiteering in the Middle East Afghanistan and Iraq.
Understand here Tallola... We didn't pay any attention of any kind to what's happening on the other side of this planet until a gang of criminal Saudi terrorists brought it to our attention in New York City....
Hand out the crying towels and plaster another ribbon on your car....that's about as much effort as you'll see from anyone.
Where are the Timothy McVeighs of the world when we need them?
FIVE MILLION Afghan refugees have returned to that country.........voting with their feet......hoping for a better life with our help.
And all you bloody lefty new age kissy-kissy hug-hug peace loving sweethearts want to do is leave them all to the tender mercies of the lunatic Taliban.
way to go, guys.
GEEZUS!
Under the USA created Nuremburg Doctrine, any soldier may for reasons of conscience refuse to fight a war if he feels it is in violation of international law. Since the Bush regime will not allow him to exercise his conscience, it is in the wrong in this case.
The rosy picture Copy paints isn't so rosy in reality:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/serv...326.wmooreafghan0326/BNStory/Afghanistan/home
The number of returning refugees is far smaller than he believes and many were forced back by Iran and Pakistan. And if people are as wusy as he believes for opposing any war there, he is free to set an example by volunteering his services against the Taliban.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/serv...326.wmooreafghan0326/BNStory/Afghanistan/home
The number of returning refugees is far smaller than he believes and many were forced back by Iran and Pakistan. And if people are as wusy as he believes for opposing any war there, he is free to set an example by volunteering his services against the Taliban.
Were I 24 instead of 54, I might take you up on that...................some were forced back, but they are certainly NOT a majority. And abandoning the Afghan people to the Taliban is not only a disaster for them.....but eventually for us as well.
54? That means you had the opportunity during Bush's invasion of Kuwait.
Now that Afghanistan has at least another million soldiers to fight its wars, it should have no trouble with the Taliban - unless the latter get majority support.
Now that Afghanistan has at least another million soldiers to fight its wars, it should have no trouble with the Taliban - unless the latter get majority support.
During which, believe it or not, I told my wife I was volunteering if things went bad and Canada committed ground troops. I fully expected things to go bad.
They didn't go bad, we didn't commit ground troops..........I didn't volunteer.........Thank God.
I'm a good ole NORTHERN boy..........I'd much rather fight on the tundra than the desert.
I agree with this.
Addition to the fact, his term is up. IF you need more bodies, time for the draft. Lets see how popular that is.