U.S. soldiers seeking refugee status in Canada

talloola

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What the war on terrorism needs is dedicated people who will stick to the task untill it is complete not soft whimpy poofties who want to go home after a couple of tours. How can terrorism be defeated with part timers?

How can terrorism be defeated when george bush 'breeds' it.
 

darkbeaver

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How can terrorism be defeated when george bush 'breeds' it.
Georgie represents the "state terrorism" I was aiming at. Many of Bushes victims don't get to go home after thier time is up, they are forced to endure or die, therefore they will prevail, and it is very important that they do. Fascism must be crushed once and for all and soon before they use the nukes again or we're all done for it. George breeds terrorism? America is a terrorist state. So is Canada, so is Britian, in fact the whole of the western world is supported by terrorism, economic and military. Capitalism is it's vehicle, full spectrum domination is it's goal, global war will be the near term result, that is practically unavoidable.
 

gopher

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EagleSmack said:
No matter how many forum posts say that it is an illegal war and that fighting in Iraq is a war crime does not make it true. Therefore the Nuremberg Principle is not a legal justification for a deserter.


Sez who?


[SIZE=+2]A DUTY TO DISOBEY ALL UNLAWFUL ORDERS[/SIZE] By Lawrence Mosqueda, Ph.D.
"military personnel have an obligation and
a duty to only obey Lawful orders and indeed have an obligation to disobey Unlawful orders, including orders by the president that do not comply with the UCMJ. The moral and legal obligation is to the U.S. Constitution and not to those who would issue unlawful orders, especially if those orders are in direct violation of the Constitution and the UCMJ. "


Also see my previous posts from Professor Ben Ferencz who invented the Nuremburg Doctrine.
 

talloola

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Georgie represents the "state terrorism" I was aiming at. Many of Bushes victims don't get to go home after thier time is up, they are forced to endure or die, therefore they will prevail, and it is very important that they do. Fascism must be crushed once and for all and soon before they use the nukes again or we're all done for it. George breeds terrorism? America is a terrorist state. So is Canada, so is Britian, in fact the whole of the western world is supported by terrorism, economic and military. Capitalism is it's vehicle, full spectrum domination is it's goal, global war will be the near term result, that is practically unavoidable.


Well, I guess terrorism has become like 'religions', there are many all over the world, each
spouting a different brand of b.s.:-|
 

Praxius

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What the war on terrorism needs is dedicated people who will stick to the task untill it is complete not soft whimpy poofties who want to go home after a couple of tours. How can terrorism be defeated with part timers?

No, what this imaginary war needs are some people with some actual brains and know what they are doing. It also needs some people who won't go off to war with countries that hold no grounds/evidence that they are supporting THE EVIL TERRORISM..... OR THE EVIL GINGIVITIS.... OOOooooo..... I'm scared, hold me.

All this "War on Terrorism" is, is something in between The War on Drugs and a New Age Witch Hunt. If someone does something that the US doesn't approve of, they are deemed a terrorist.... frig this could go on forever, cost trillions of dollars, and millions of lives... all for something that will never end until everybody is obeying what the US Government wants. It's a two faced colinization of the world in a capitalistic maner in which it poses that it's all in "Our Best interests."
 

EagleSmack

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The contract he signed as an adult has some pretty specific things to say about how long he can be called up for, and what for:

You are right...it is very specific. You have to serve a minimum of four years active (sometimes 3 or 6 depending on what you signed up for) and you have to spend four years in the IRR. While in the IRR you can be called back to active duty status and THAT is what happened.



Now, this is openly and honestly an insurrection and is described as such by the US federal government.
He signed a contract saying he'd do his frontline service (which he did) and say in the IRR if a national emergency came up, and that that did not include fighting an Insurgency.

He fulfilled his contractual obligations.

He signed a contract that said he would do four years active and four years in the IRR. You may want that law to pertain to him but it just doesn't. YOU can say that but not one judge...liberal, conservative, or other has struck down the RIGHT for the military to use the reserve and IRR for Iraq. He did not fullfill his obligations and is now a Deserter.
 

EagleSmack

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Quote:
Presidential Reserve Callup Authority" (PRCA) is a Provision of a public law (US Code, Title 10 (DOD), section 12304) that provides the President a means to activate, without a declaration of national emergency, not more than 200,000 members of the Selected Reserve and the Individual Ready Reserve (of whom not more than 30,000 may be members of the Individual Ready Reserve), for not more than 400 days to meet the support requirements of any operational mission. Members called under this provision may not be used for disaster relief or to suppress insurrection

This is one interpetation of it... Here is another.

Title 10 U.S.C. 12304 provides that, when the President determines that it is necessary to augment the active forces for any operational mission, up to 200,000 members of the Selected Reserve can be called to active duty for not more than 270 days. (Note: The FY 2007 Military Authorization Act changes the maximum from 270 days to 365 days). This is known as Presidential Selected Reserve Call-Up (PSRC) authority. This provision also states that no unit or member may be ordered to active duty under this authority to provide assistance to either the federal government or a state in time of a serious natural or manmade disaster, accident, or catastrophe. Thus, this authority cannot be used to access reservists for domestic emergencies.

Therefor Iraq just does not fit as domestic means internal to the US. See our oath...

"Defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic"

His obligations are still outstanding...again that is why he is in Canada. He better think up of another defense.
 

MikeyDB

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How about "Oh gee you promise the Iraq war would last six days...maybe six weeks...but never six months..." Donald Rumsfeld.

You (American government) lie to and short-change military personnel, always have and always will because the tree of freedom requies nourishment from time to time....

What crap!