Ummm, they already found him, killed him and dumped him.
You really should try and keep up.
U.S. soldier kills up to 16 Afghan civilians
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You really should try and keep up.
It would have to be proven that due to his mental illness he did not have the capacity to determine that what he was doing was wrong...head injuries, alcoholism, depression and even PTSD does not produce that severe a departure from reality...
If it is shown, and it likely will be, that he knew what he was doing was wrong, then he should stand trial for and be convicted of he attrocities...
LOL
Ummm, ya, OK.
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Vanni Fucci PWND
Besides that, when you're done making excuses, maybe you could challenge EAO and Ariadne, for promoting capital punishment in this case.
Just sayin'...
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The insanity defense while used in the US is rarely successful. That said he may be able to use brain trauma as a mitigating factor.
But he will be tried in a Military Court and they are not the same as a civilian court. Very different rules apply.
Brain trauma would have to have been very recent, and proven to have caused a condition by which he could not be legally culpable for his crimes.
Show me where Staff Sgt Bales was diagnosed with psychotic depression, which one as learned as you should know is very different than your garden variety depression...
No defense for massacres there...
No defense for massacres there either...
Robert Bales May Have Been Psychotic, Says Army's Former Top Psychiatrist Elspeth Ritchie - Seattle News - The Daily Weekly
There we see that neither PTSD nor Traumatic Brain Injury include psychosis as a symptom.
This has not been diagnosed and is pure speculation on the part of the former Army shrink...
Pfft...hardly...
I don't believe this guy should be executed, but neither do I think that he should be found not guilty by reason of insanity unless it is proven that his psychosis was severe enough to cause him to do so...
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Do you have access to his medical records. No - your question is BS
It an take years for PTSD to be diagnosed. Fact
Even so, because the clinical definition of PTSD does not include psychosis, PTSD cannot be used as an insanity defense...Fact!
I see you still haven't grasped the point, but I like PWN'ing you so...
Yes they do, as I pointed out. Especially when you have two or more act in concert.
Vanni Fucci PWND
I'm guessing there are some serious issues at play.
Your claim...
Yes they do, as I pointed out. Especially when you have two or more act in concert.
Vanni Fucci PWND
I think I'll take clinical data over a cherry picked interview in the Seatle Weekly blog thanks.
In Vanni's defence, neither do I. But given some of the claims that have been made of his actions pre alleged act.
I'm guessing there are some serious issues at play.
True.
Wrong again. It also leads to psychosis which combined with PTSD is very difficult to treat.
Now perhaps you should find something you know about. Because this ain't it.
Do you know what a "flashback" is?
Ever seen one play out?
It's a break from reality.
Stop moving the goalposts.
Evidence to support you claim please
CDNBEear PWND!!
Quoting the US Army's former top psychologist is not good enough for you?
From the link you provided on PTSD:
You seem to say that a lot when you haven't got a valid rebuttal...perhaps it is you who is experiencing a departure from reality?
Leads to psychosis therefore means that it is not a symptom of PTSD, which is exactly what I said...
He has not been diagnosed with any form of psychosis, so therefore I am correct...
Suck it!
Sure, since you obviously missed it the first time...
ETA: Again.
FIFY, and CDNBear only has one e.
Not when her cherry picked comments contradict clinical data.
It's not the first time I've seen some expert make mistakes, in an interview. It wouldn't be the first time I've seen an interview hacked by a media outlet.
So when are you going to take on the people pushing for capital punishment? Just askin'.
Well, when dealing with the intellectually dishonest and ideologues like yourself, I see it get done a lot. I always feel the need to point it out to them. In the faint hope you'll stop being so dishonest.
Wrong again Buckey -
Again - You do not have access to his med records - neither does that report you posted. FACT
PTSD can and does lead to psychosis - Try and read what I wrote. What did that US report state - Psychotic episode
Now suck it up.
Why would I?
They have their views, and they in no way threaten mine, because theirs will never be realized...
Oh fun nicknames! Can I call you douche canoe?
You're right, I'm just talking out my ass, but then so are you, because you have no access to those records to prove you point either...so how about we both just STFU!
Read what I wrote...I agreed that it can lead to psychosis, but is not a symptom of PTSD, and because there has been no report that he's been diagnosed as having psychotic episodes, we can't make that assumption...
As details emerged over the past few days about Staff Sgt. Robert Bales, the once admirable soldier accused of massacring Afghan civilians, the horrific crime became even more unfathomable. Some have suggested that PTSD, or the traumatic brain injury he suffered a couple years ago, might have caused him to snap. But Elspeth Ritchie, the Army's former top psychiatrist, thinks there must be more to it.
Ritchie, who left her Army post a couple years ago and is now the chief clinical officer for the District of Columbia's mental health department, says PTSD is associated with "hypervigilance, numbing, flashbacks"--but not the "kind of violence Bales that allegedly committed." Similarly, she says TBI commonly causes nausea and dizziness, but not an impulse to massacre women and children.
But you seemed so adamant about not putting down the ill in the other thread.
Even by your own link, it's looking like he may very well have been mentally ill.
I guess you gave up trying to pedal your nonsense, since you ignored the rest of my post.
Good call, I was starting to feel embarrassed for you. Again.