Ummm, they already found him, killed him and dumped him.Who is keeping a record of all the Afghans slaughtered in this search & destroy mission for OBL ??
You really should try and keep up.
Ummm, they already found him, killed him and dumped him.Who is keeping a record of all the Afghans slaughtered in this search & destroy mission for OBL ??
Ummm, they already found him, killed him and dumped him.
You really should try and keep up.
Yup, we're now killin em just for fun. reread the original OP for proof.
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There's a good chance, the Soldier in question, is ill. A head injury, alcoholism (A recognized illness), likely depression (Another recognized illness).
I'm just wondering why you aren't here, pleading his case
LOLIt would have to be proven that due to his mental illness he did not have the capacity to determine that what he was doing was wrong...head injuries, alcoholism, depression and even PTSD does not produce that severe a departure from reality...
It would have to be proven that due to his mental illness he did not have the capacity to determine that what he was doing was wrong...head injuries, alcoholism, depression and even PTSD does not produce that severe a departure from reality...
If it is shown, and it likely will be, that he knew what he was doing was wrong, then he should stand trial for and be convicted of he attrocities...
The insanity defense while used in the US is rarely successful. That said he may be able to use brain trauma as a mitigating factor.
But he will be tried in a Military Court and they are not the same as a civilian court. Very different rules apply.
No it wouldn't.Brain trauma would have to have been very recent, and proven to have caused a condition by which he could not be legally culpable for his crimes.
Ritchie, who left her Army post a couple years ago and is now the chief clinical officer for the District of Columbia's mental health department, says PTSD is associated with "hypervigilance, numbing, flashbacks"--but not the "kind of violence Bales that allegedly committed." Similarly, she says TBI commonly causes nausea and dizziness, but not an impulse to massacre women and children.
Instead, Ritchie speculates that Bales may have been having a psychotic episode that left him hearing voices, experiencing delusions or otherwise being out-of-touch with reality.
"Maybe he didn't realize that [the victims] were women and children," Ritchie says in an interview with Seattle Weekly. "Maybe he thought they were the Taliban."
Show me where Staff Sgt Bales was diagnosed with psychotic depression, which one as learned as you should know is very different than your garden variety depression...
No defense for massacres there...
No defense for massacres there either...
Robert Bales May Have Been Psychotic, Says Army's Former Top Psychiatrist Elspeth Ritchie - Seattle News - The Daily Weekly
There we see that neither PTSD nor Traumatic Brain Injury include psychosis as a symptom.
This has not been diagnosed and is pure speculation on the part of the former Army shrink...
Pfft...hardly...
Do you have access to his medical records. No - your question is BS
It an take years for PTSD to be diagnosed. Fact
Your claim...Pfft...hardly...
...head injuries, alcoholism, depression and even PTSD does not produce that severe a departure from reality...
I think I'll take clinical data over a cherry picked interview in the Seatle Weekly blog thanks.There we see that neither PTSD nor Traumatic Brain Injury include psychosis as a symptom.
In Vanni's defence, neither do I. But given some of the claims that have been made of his actions pre alleged act.Do you have access to his medical records. No - your question is BS
True.It an take years for PTSD to be diagnosed. Fact
Even so, because the clinical definition of PTSD does not include psychosis, PTSD cannot be used as an insanity defense...Fact!
Do you know what a "flashback" is?Even so, because the clinical definition of PTSD does not include psychosis, PTSD cannot be used as an insanity defense...Fact!
IYes they do, as I pointed out. Especially when you have two or more act in concert.
I think I'll take clinical data over a cherry picked interview in the Seatle Weekly blog thanks.
Do you know what a "flashback" is?
Ever seen one play out?
It's a break from reality.
The signs and symptoms of PTSD are categorized into three major types; the symptoms associated with re-experiencing the incident, avoiding the incident and the sudden increase in anxiety.
Stop moving the goalposts.
Wrong again. It also leads to psychosis which combined with PTSD is very difficult to treat.
Now perhaps you should find something you know about. Because this ain't it.
Sure, since you obviously missed it the first time...Evidence to support you claim please
ETA: Again.LOL
Ummm, ya, OK.
Psychotic Depression: Losing Touch With Reality - Depression Center - EverydayHealth.com
Facts about Drugs and Alcohol-Drug and Alcohol
What are the main symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder? - by John Louie Ramos - Helium
Psychosis, Brain Injury, Complications, Causes, Symptoms
Vanni Fucci PWND again...
FIFY, and CDNBear only has one e.CDNBear PWND me!!
Not when her cherry picked comments contradict clinical data.Quoting the US Army's former top psychologist is not good enough for you?
Well, when dealing with the intellectually dishonest and ideologues like yourself, I see it get done a lot. I always feel the need to point it out to them. In the faint hope you'll stop being so dishonest.You seem to say that a lot...
Evidence to support you claim please
CDNBEear PWND!!
Quoting the US Army's former top psychologist is not good enough for you?
It manifests itself in avoidance of a trigger...not massacre of innocents...
You seem to say that a lot when you haven't got a valid rebuttal...perhaps it is you who is experiencing a departure from reality?
Leads to psychosis therefore means that it is not a symptom of PTSD, which is exactly what I said...
He has not been diagnosed with any form of psychosis, so therefore I am correct...
Suck it!
So when are you going to take on the people pushing for capital punishment? Just askin'.
Wrong again Buckey
Again - You do not have access to his med records - neither does that report you posted. FACT
PTSD can and does lead to psychosis - Try and read what I wrote. What did that US report state - Psychotic episode
Now suck it up.
Why would I?
Can you differentiate between opinion and fact. Can you Bucky - Start sucking.
They have their views, and they in no way threaten mine, because theirs will never be realized...
But you seemed so adamant about not putting down the ill in the other thread.Why would I?
They have their views, and they in no way threaten mine, because theirs will never be realized...