Two years into the Trudeau 2.0 Minority Term, which day will Justin call the election that only he wants?

Ron in Regina

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Yep, pretty much what we said. "Roe v. Wade is settled law. It's been in place for half a century. A Constitutional right. The Supreme Court will never go back on it, any more than it would go back on racial segregation. And nobody but a handful of bible-beating hillbillies want it to."

Just like the "war to end war."
I hear you. “Our” guy isn’t talking about the fringy fringe though, and a hypothetical future political party that doesn’t currently even have a seat in our parliament, but his current (actual) opposition.

Having checked the tape, I can report that Trudeau didn’t actually say Canadian conservative leaders were as big a threat to women’s rights as the rescinding of Roe v. Wade. He said they’re a bigger threat.

“It’s not that Roe couldn’t happen in Canada,” Trudeau told reporters in Caraquet, N.B. “It’s that it’s more likely to happen in Canada.”

Anyway, yes anything can happen in the realm of the possible, but not necessarily probable, and here we are.
Ron, I'm not saying what will happen. What I am saying is that the Tories, the Libs, and every damn body else in politics will turn on a dime if they think it'll get them elected.
I think we might be saying the same thing.
I do hope you're not so naive as to think a politician gives a shit less about Canadian women. Hell, the definition of "politician" is "a person who would cheerfully wade knee-deep through the blood of their own children to obtain or retain the smallest scrap of power."
I think our current Tories don’t need to touch this settled bogeyman argument to get elected, but some future government might.
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Ron in Regina

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Polls suggest the Tories are just too far ahead for Liberals to avoid decimation in next year’s election. The prime minister seems defiantly bound to leading his party into 2025, even as his attacks against Tory Leader Pierre Poilievre grow more incoherent, as Chris Selley discusses with Brian this week.

The big problem, Chris suspects, is that the Liberals have no better option — no obvious candidate who could outdo Trudeau. Chris and Brian also talk about the Liberals’ denial of a growing sense of Canadian lawlessness — from campus invasions to killers out on bail — and Poilievre’s intriguing and unprecedented promise to use the notwithstanding clause to get tough on crime, if need be. (Recorded May 16, 2024)
 

Ron in Regina

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It just reeks of desperation….
…& on that note…Legislation implementing the federal government’s planned increase to capital gains taxes will be introduced before the House rises for summer, Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland said Tuesday, while also calling on Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre to take a stand on the issue??? Oh? For what purpose??
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Note the red above for Liberal/NDP, & the pale blue off the the right (cough-cough) that represents the NDP/Liberals…& together, in the non-coalition coalition that’s definitely not a coalition-type coalition…they’re waiting for Pierre Poilievre to take a stand on what why? Put it to a vote, and everybody will see where everybody stands…

Ms. Freeland did not pledge that the legislation would be passed into law by summer, even though the 2024 budget said the changes will take effect as of June 25? But of what year? 2026?

“In the coming weeks, and certainly before the House rises, we will begin the legislative process to implement our increase in the inclusion rate,” she said.

The House of Commons is scheduled to sit until Friday, June 21, before recessing until mid-September.

The government’s plan to raise about $19-billion over five years through capital gains tax changes was the biggest new announcement in Ms. Freeland’s April 16 budget…but…when the government’s first budget implementation bill was tabled a couple of weeks later, the tax change was not included…hmmmm….

Ms. Freeland said at the time that the capital gains tax changes would be introduced separately. The plan was widely viewed as an effort by the governing Liberals to force Mr. Poilievre, who is leading in the polls, to take a clear position on the issue.
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Mr. Poilievre has not provided a clear answer to date when asked for his view on the changes, though when asked about it he stated, “The legislation you are asking about doesn’t exist yet due to Justin Trudeau’s incompetence, so it’s impossible for us to weigh in on the matter.” But maybe that’s not clear enough so put it to a vote.

Ms. Freeland was asked Tuesday whether the delay in bringing forward a bill is an indication the government was having second thoughts.

“It’s important to get things right,” she replied.
(Poilievre wasn’t even in Parliament, so no rebuttal, but it’s important to get things right)

“I have certainly observed over the past week the Conservative Leader equivocating, dodging, deflecting, when asked about his position on our plan for tax fairness?? It is important for Canadians to insist on a clear answer from the Conservatives on tax fairness?? And, you know, I think depending on what answer we get, Canadians will know whose side the Conservatives are really on,” she said.
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…Freeland is hunting rascally Poilievre’s she believes, & the cartoon shotgun will blow up in the Liberals faces, again…
 

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I repeat, it is way to early. Once the polls close (if they haven't changed the laws to allow polls to remain open until enough Liberal voters vote) I will believe.
 

Ron in Regina

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20 September, apparently.
OTTAWA—Prime Minister Justin Trudeau plunged Canada into a federal election campaign on Sunday after Gov. Gen. Mary Simon agreed to dissolve Parliament and set voting day for Sept. 20.
That was September 20th, 2021. The date of the election is determined by the fixed-date provisions of the Canada Elections Act, which requires federal elections to be held on the third Monday in October in the fourth calendar year after the polling day of the previous election. That would be October 20th, 2025 at the latest.

However, a government bill currently under consideration by the House of Commons (by the Liberal/NDP & NDP/Liberals) would change the fixed election date to October 27, 2025 to avoid conflicting with the tanking prospects of re-election of several (about 1/2 of them) current Liberal & NDP MP’s who wouldn’t qualify for full pensions indexed to inflation for life until October 21st, 2025.

Moving the election date to October 27, 2025 would allow 74 members of parliament to qualify for a pension that they would not receive if they fail to achieve reelection, though the government denies this motivated the change.
1716523531612.jpegVirtually every Conservative MP will be re-elected so this really doesn’t affect them, but the Liberal/NDP can point and say this is a nonpartisan decision, and Diwali, etc…
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That was September 20th, 2021. The date of the election is determined by the fixed-date provisions of the Canada Elections Act, which requires federal elections to be held on the third Monday in October in the fourth calendar year after the polling day of the previous election. That would be October 20th, 2025 at the latest.

However, a government bill currently under consideration by the House of Commons (by the Liberal/NDP & NDP/Liberals) would change the fixed election date to October 27, 2025 to avoid conflicting with the tanking prospects of re-election of several (about 1/2 of them) current Liberal & NDP MP’s who wouldn’t qualify for full pensions indexed to inflation for life until October 21st, 2025.

Moving the election date to October 27, 2025 would allow 74 members of parliament to qualify for a pension that they would not receive if they fail to achieve reelection, though the government denies this motivated the change.
View attachment 22215Virtually every Conservative MP will be re-elected so this really doesn’t affect them, but the Liberal/NDP can point and say this is a nonpartisan decision, and Diwali, etc…
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Just more proof our right honorible members put their own interests ahead of the countries . Walk right up to the trough and fill your face .
 
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Ron in Regina

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Just more proof our right honorible members put their own interests ahead of the countries . Walk right up to the trough and fill your face .
And somewhere in the last week of douchebaggery, on going scandals pertaining to the Chinese Interference shenanigans regarding the 2019 & 2021, and other expected Liberal behaviour, they somewhere went up a wee bit in the projection poles:
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Among all of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s broken promises, the most cynical has been the abandonment of his pledge in the 2015 election campaign that brought him to power, to deliver open and transparent government to Canadians, etc…
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“Government data and information should be open by default in formats that are modern and easy to use,” the Liberals promised in 2015….& how’s that work’n out?
 

Ron in Regina

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To be sure, the Conservatives are still performing horribly in Quebec compared with the rest of the country. In every other major province, the Tories are either capturing a majority of the popular vote, or they have a 20-point lead.
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While the province is still poised to be swept by the Bloc Québécois in the next federal election, it’s a sign that one of Canada’s last remaining anti-Conservative voting blocs may be softening.
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Every single time, when voting day came around, the Conservatives were once again humiliated in Quebec. When former Conservative leader Stephen Harper captured a majority government in 2011, he won just five of Quebec’s 75 seats. When the Conservatives were endorsed by Quebec Premier François Legault in 2021, they won just 10 of 78 seats.
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Although Conservative party leader Pierre Poilievre speaks the best French of a Conservative party leader since the formation of the modern party (albeit with an Alberta accent), the irony is that he’s seeing massive gains in Quebec despite doing very little to woo Quebecers in particular.
Even with this week’s new Leger results, Quebec remains one of the only Canadian voting blocs that hasn’t dramatically turned towards the Conservatives in the last year.
 
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Quebec will always vote for whatever they believe will net them the most money from the rest of the country while contributing nothing to the greater good of Canada.
 

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Yep. Might as well vote for a party that, at least from outward appearances, perhaps might have the support of Canadians as a whole.🤞. Maybe even Quebec is seeing that… but with an election still 17 months away anything can happen.
One of the few advantages of the American system is that one can actually vote for a person, instead of a party, for chief executive.
 
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