Two explosions at Boston Marathon finish line injure dozens: reports
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How many do think that way? More than believe they worked alone, had Muzzie whackjob coaches.
The other day I sent Karrie off to goggle trends but she didn't understand how to use it but in that post there are two links to google trends I posted.
One leads to "Chechnyan terrorists" and another to "false flag operation" as search keywords.
There were 60% less searches for "Chechnyan terrorists" than searches for "false flag operation".
What do you think people are thinking?
People are "thinking"?
The predisposition to believe, automatically, that there must be some sort of conspiracy, some sort of set up, requires the same sort of stifling narrow mindset as those they accuse of blindly following the government without independent thought. The more people that are involved, the less likely there is some sort of Machiavellian plot. Human beings just cannot keep their mouths shut that effectively.
Do I think there is some involvement with Chechen rebels? Highly doubtful, simply given that they are and have been fighting Russian "oppression" for God knows how long. For them to make a targeted strike at the U.S. on U.S. soil doesn't make a lot of sense. Just because these two young men were of Chechen descent doesn't make them "Chechen terrorists". By that same logic, two of the three young men from right here in my home town must have been working for the Greek terrorists and the Chinese terrorists, if their involvement in the Algerian bombing is true. We all know the deep seat hatred both the Greeks and the Chinese have for the Algerians.
Whether they were under the influence of any individual or group or whether they were simply two very bitter and angry young men who were just influenced by something, who the hell knows? But the likelihood that they were framed, not only for the bombing, but for the robbery, the carjacking and the subsequent public fire fight with the police is infinitesimally small. That so many people might "think" differently doesn't mean that it's a valid theory, it just means that there are some people out there that will believe anything.
Hey, you're always welcome to make your own points. It's crazy, but it works.
I tend to think that the people who go straight to conspiracy, watch too many American movies, where the gov. is always hyper intelligent and pulling off grand conspiracies and incredible technological feats.
ABNORMALCY BIAS
“The real hopeless victims of mental illness are to be found among those who appear to be most normal. Many of them are normal because they are so well adjusted to our mode of existence, because their human voice has been silenced so early in their lives that they do not even struggle or suffer or develop symptoms as the neurotic does. They are normal not in what may be called the absolute sense of the word; they are normal only in relation to a profoundly abnormal society. Their perfect adjustment to that abnormal society is a measure of their mental sickness. These millions of abnormally normal people, living without fuss in a society to which, if they were fully human beings, they ought not to be adjusted.” – Aldous Huxley – Brave New World Revisited
People are "thinking"?
The predisposition to believe, automatically, that there must be some sort of conspiracy, some sort of set up, requires the same sort of stifling narrow mindset as those they accuse of blindly following the government without independent thought. The more people that are involved, the less likely there is some sort of Machiavellian plot. Human beings just cannot keep their mouths shut that effectively.
Do I think there is some involvement with Chechen rebels? Highly doubtful, simply given that they are and have been fighting Russian "oppression" for God knows how long. For them to make a targeted strike at the U.S. on U.S. soil doesn't make a lot of sense. Just because these two young men were of Chechen descent doesn't make them "Chechen terrorists". By that same logic, two of the three young men from right here in my home town must have been working for the Greek terrorists and the Chinese terrorists, if their involvement in the Algerian bombing is true. We all know the deep seat hatred both the Greeks and the Chinese have for the Algerians.
Whether they were under the influence of any individual or group or whether they were simply two very bitter and angry young men who were just influenced by something, who the hell knows? But the likelihood that they were framed, not only for the bombing, but for the robbery, the carjacking and the subsequent public fire fight with the police is infinitesimally small. That so many people might "think" differently doesn't mean that it's a valid theory, it just means that there are some people out there that will believe anything.
These stats were from long before any of those facts came out. The conspiracy freaks don't have the numbers for the volume of hits tallied. Not by a loooooong shot.
If people aren't trusting the Govt and the dribs and drabs of the story as it unfolded and the truth becomes known it's not "conspiracy freaks" that are at issue it's the lack of trust for govt and media that is of concern in the entire spectrum of the demographics.
For the stats to hit max on the false flag search keywords it takes every slice of society to pull it off.
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Yup, the most dangerous people out there are the ones who think they are normal. All they have done is pretend to conform to an insane society. I was asked once why I hung out with the people at the mental health clubhouse. I said because they are real. They have had their mental breakdown and accept who they really are, unlike most people who think they are normal. Those are the really crazy ones.
Everybody is different. There is no such thing as normal. Normal is a pretense. To be true to ones Self is to be abnormal.
Oh come on now. I've heard you refer to the rest of society in disparaging terms often enough to know that you think there is you, and then there is 'the rest', a conglomerate of sheeple who think and act alike. Not unique individuals.
Cliffy- Do you have that Jesus feeling- Karrie just nailed you to the cross- and in such a nice way.
Societal change requires those too cool for society. You don't have to thank us, we don't care about you anyway. Later on though your children will shower us with adulation, stamps, streets libraries will all bear our illustrious names. I'm going to suggest that a huge bridge bear the name Cliffys Crossing.
Why is Boston 'terrorism' but not Aurora, Sandy Hook, Tucson and Columbine?
Why is Boston 'terrorism' but not Aurora, Sandy Hook, Tucson and Columbine | Glenn Greenwald | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
Why is Boston 'terrorism' but not Aurora, Sandy Hook, Tucson and Columbine | Glenn Greenwald | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
I Guess When My Older Brother Said 'Let's Bomb The Boston Marathon,' I Should Have Said No
Commentary• Opinion• ISSUE 49•17• Apr 23, 2013 By Dzhokar A. Tsarnaev
And after much reflection, I think I’ve finally pinpointed the moment. Given all that’s happened over the last week—a shootout with police that left my brother dead, my botched suicide attempt, and my subsequent capture by federal authorities as I lay bleeding to death in a total stranger’s yard—I’m starting to think that maybe when Tamerlan first said “Let’s bomb the Boston Marathon,” I should have said no.
Like, maybe if I had said “No, I don’t want to do that” when my brother asked me if I wanted to set off a series of deadly explosions that would kill or seriously injure dozens of innocent people, then that might have actually worked out better for me. That’s sort of the feeling I’m getting lately, at least.
It’s funny, you know. As time goes by, the more I’m starting to see how, if you think about it, it’s almost like there were two different ways to go at that particular moment and, unfortunately, I might have chosen the wrong way to go. For instance, if I had decided at that moment to, say, immediately warn the police that my brother was plotting to bomb a highly populated public area in the middle of Boston on April 15th, and then if I’d called my parents to let them know their eldest son had become completely mentally unhinged, then perhaps I’d be in a better situation right now. In terms of my life and my future and so forth.
Does that make sense?
You know how it is, though. You’re a young and admittedly impressionable young man and your older brother, whom you love and idolize, comes up to you and says, “Hey, you want to help me brutally terrorize a bunch of innocent men, women, and children on Patriots’ Day?” and you sort of just go along with it. I mean, ordinarily, if anyone else had asked me that question I probably would have said something along the lines of, oh, I don’t know, “No, that sounds like a really bad idea, and I don’t want any part of it.” But I didn’t, and you know what? I’m sort of regretting it.
What can I say, though? Sometimes you make decisions that you realize later weren’t as great as they seemed at the time. Like when I decided to steal an SUV and then run over my brother with it after a deadly shootout with law enforcement officials. That’s another good example. Or when I shot myself in the throat when FBI agents were closing in on my hiding place. Or when I chose not to turn both myself and Tamerlan in to the authorities the second I saw the carnage and mass pandemonium our actions had caused. All of these, in retrospect, were probably somewhat questionable decisions, now that I’ve had some time to reflect on them.
I don’t know. What do other people think? Was saying “Okay, sure” when my brother asked me to help him build makeshift explosives using pressure cookers packed with ball bearings and nails a wise move? And when he told me to put those explosives in a backpack, take them to the Boston Marathon, and blow them up at the finish line in order to destroy the lives of hundreds of people and terrify millions around the country, should I have just said, “No, Tamerlan, this is wrong”?
I probably should have, right?
Commentary• Opinion• ISSUE 49•17• Apr 23, 2013 By Dzhokar A. Tsarnaev
- I’ve had a lot of time to think the last few days as I’ve been sitting here in my hospital bed. I’ve reflected on my life and the choices I’ve made, and I’ve tried to figure out exactly where things really took a turn for the worse for me.
And after much reflection, I think I’ve finally pinpointed the moment. Given all that’s happened over the last week—a shootout with police that left my brother dead, my botched suicide attempt, and my subsequent capture by federal authorities as I lay bleeding to death in a total stranger’s yard—I’m starting to think that maybe when Tamerlan first said “Let’s bomb the Boston Marathon,” I should have said no.
Like, maybe if I had said “No, I don’t want to do that” when my brother asked me if I wanted to set off a series of deadly explosions that would kill or seriously injure dozens of innocent people, then that might have actually worked out better for me. That’s sort of the feeling I’m getting lately, at least.
It’s funny, you know. As time goes by, the more I’m starting to see how, if you think about it, it’s almost like there were two different ways to go at that particular moment and, unfortunately, I might have chosen the wrong way to go. For instance, if I had decided at that moment to, say, immediately warn the police that my brother was plotting to bomb a highly populated public area in the middle of Boston on April 15th, and then if I’d called my parents to let them know their eldest son had become completely mentally unhinged, then perhaps I’d be in a better situation right now. In terms of my life and my future and so forth.
Does that make sense?
You know how it is, though. You’re a young and admittedly impressionable young man and your older brother, whom you love and idolize, comes up to you and says, “Hey, you want to help me brutally terrorize a bunch of innocent men, women, and children on Patriots’ Day?” and you sort of just go along with it. I mean, ordinarily, if anyone else had asked me that question I probably would have said something along the lines of, oh, I don’t know, “No, that sounds like a really bad idea, and I don’t want any part of it.” But I didn’t, and you know what? I’m sort of regretting it.
What can I say, though? Sometimes you make decisions that you realize later weren’t as great as they seemed at the time. Like when I decided to steal an SUV and then run over my brother with it after a deadly shootout with law enforcement officials. That’s another good example. Or when I shot myself in the throat when FBI agents were closing in on my hiding place. Or when I chose not to turn both myself and Tamerlan in to the authorities the second I saw the carnage and mass pandemonium our actions had caused. All of these, in retrospect, were probably somewhat questionable decisions, now that I’ve had some time to reflect on them.
I don’t know. What do other people think? Was saying “Okay, sure” when my brother asked me to help him build makeshift explosives using pressure cookers packed with ball bearings and nails a wise move? And when he told me to put those explosives in a backpack, take them to the Boston Marathon, and blow them up at the finish line in order to destroy the lives of hundreds of people and terrify millions around the country, should I have just said, “No, Tamerlan, this is wrong”?
I probably should have, right?
And there I thought it resulted from too much Age of Empires and the inability to as a girl out on a date.
Incomplete sentences is a symptom as well. (to as a girl out on a date) If you can go out on a date as a girl everything is fine though eh. The makeup dept must use twenty pounds or so on you.