Trump’s Remarks on Charlottesville Violence Are Criticized as Insufficient

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I don't think those white nationalists were fighting with 'the more peaceful part of America'. They were fighting fanatics from the far left.

"Far left?" How the hell do you know? And what a pathetic response to justify murder. BTW the Freedom Riders of the 1960s were also accused of being far left.
 

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People who are truly far right wouldn't promote any political figure.

They would want the government replaced with Coca-Cola.
 

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Facts don't really matter. When humans are acting emotionally.
Or when spiders are walking on the ceiling.

Tsk, tsk, misinformation again. it was a white trigglypuff who died.
Never said they could aim worth shit.

Turns out Fields is more of a Nazi than Klan anyhow. A difference that could only be significant to white supremacists. Kinda like the Foursquare Pentecostals and the Holiness Pentecostals. Only folk who care are Pentecostals. Everybody else just sees bible thumping retards.

"Far left?" How the hell do you know? And what a pathetic response to justify murder. BTW the Freedom Riders of the 1960s were also accused of being far left.
In the U.S. (and apparently some parts of Canada) that's the go-to excuse for murder. They even called Dr. King a communist, like being black wasn't reason enough to murder him.
 

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Except that Stalin was actually a Red Fascist.

People who are truly far right wouldn't promote any political figure.

They would want the government replaced with Coca-Cola.
Oh my god!! That would send BLM into a complete tizzy considering Pemberton was a Lt. Colonel in the Confederate army.
Funny how so many Black people happily drink Coke though, ain't it?
 

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I don't think those white nationalists were fighting with 'the more peaceful part of America'. They were fighting fanatics from the far left. No sympathy for either side here. But the racists had a right to hold their parade and demo and the commies did not have the right to stop them. So in that sense, the violence can be blamed on the far left.
So, you have no sympathy for a murderer (appropriate), and no sympathy for his victim?

I have really never seen a lamer, or more vile, attempt to shift the blame for a murder off the murderer. You are every bit as ****ed up as the morons who blamed the cops for the murders of cops in Dallas, Baton Rouge, and New York.
 

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Let's forget the left and right bullshit for a second and take a moment to laugh at Trump over the fallout from this.


Trump lashes out at black CEO who quits council

By Matt Egan August 14, 2017: 10:01 AM ET

One of America's most prominent black CEOs quit President Trump's manufacturing council on Monday over Trump's failure to condemn white supremacists.

Kenneth Frazier of Merck said in a statement: "America's leaders must honor our fundamental values by clearly rejecting expressions of hatred, bigotry and group supremacy."

Within minutes, Trump attacked him on Twitter, saying Frazier's resignation will give him "more time to LOWER RIPOFF DRUG PRICES!"

Frazier did not mention the violence in Charlottesville, Virginia, in his statement, but he did say that "as a matter of personal conscience, I feel a responsibility to take a stand against intolerance and extremism."

That appeared to be a reference to Trump's statement over the weekend blaming violence "on many sides" after neo-Nazis and white nationalists clashed with counter-protesters.

Kenneth Frazier quits Trump manufacturing council; Trump lashes out - Aug. 14, 2017
 

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Pick a topic any topic and trump is all bluster void of substance, hopefully cooler heads will prevail on matters from north korea to virginia
Anyhow those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it and trying to ignore history by tearing down a statue representative of a dark time only serves loopy apologists. Poland constantly reminds the world the death camps on their turf were not polish death camps rather nazi death camps. Even so poland did not tear them down they see Auschwitz as a vivid reminder of mans inhumanity to man and preserve the site as a real time reminder. The statue should be preserved for the same reason imo.
Are Auschwitz and the people who ran it portrayed as heroes?
 

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So, you have no sympathy for a murderer (appropriate), and no sympathy for his victim?

I have really never seen a lamer, or more vile, attempt to shift the blame for a murder off the murderer. You are every bit as ****ed up as the morons who blamed the cops for the murders of cops in Dallas, Baton Rouge, and New York.
Actually, I really don't have any sympathy either to be honest. The right-wing extremists protesting the statue removal knew goddam well it would provoke a reaction. And right on cue, the extremists on the left took the bait. Both knew full well what they were getting into and as a result I have no sympathy for any of those directly involved with the violence. The only two people directly involved in this whole thing that I have sympathy for are the two cops who died in that chopper crash.
As far as I'm concerned, law enforcement in general screwed the pooch big time. They should have moved between the protesters and counter-protesters and told the counter protesters to go back home. They already got to protest for the statue's removal, others have the right protest the actual removal. That's how America is supposed to work.

I mean as far as the so-called progressives go, who would have thought that fighting racism, violence and hate would require the use of so much racism, violence and hate?
 

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Actually, I really don't have any sympathy either to be honest. The right-wing extremists protesting the statue removal knew goddam well it would provoke a reaction. And right on cue, the extremists on the left took the bait. Both knew full well what they were getting into and as a result I have no sympathy for any of those directly involved with the violence. The only two people directly involved in this whole thing that I have sympathy for are the two cops who died in that chopper crash.
As far as I'm concerned, law enforcement in general screwed the pooch big time. They should have moved between the protesters and counter-protesters and told the counter protesters to go back home. They already got to protest for the statue's removal, others have the right protest the actual removal. That's how America is supposed to work.
You think America is supposed to work by armed police granting freedom to only one side? I'll admit that's the way it frequently does work, but I'm not so sure that's how it's supposed to work.

I mean as far as the so-called progressives go, who would have thought that fighting racism, violence and hate would require the use of so much racism, violence and hate?
Maybe the same people who blame a murderer and his victim equally for a murder.
 

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I thought Trump voiced his displeasure and besides I think he has a "full plate" with Kim Jong (the asshole)'s shenanigans!
 

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Actually, I really don't have any sympathy either to be honest. The right-wing extremists protesting the statue removal knew goddam well it would provoke a reaction. And right on cue, the extremists on the left took the bait. Both knew full well what they were getting into and as a result I have no sympathy for any of those directly involved with the violence.



So, people who are protesting should expect to be run down by cars?
 

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I thought Trump voiced his displeasure and besides I think he has a "full plate" with Kim Jong (the asshole)'s shenanigans!

I think that Trump dare not alienate the source of his political power.
 

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I thought Trump voiced his displeasure
Yep, just like Jin did. He holds "all sides" responsible. Maybe he can prosecute the antifa demonstrators for the murder.

and besides I think he has a "full plate" with Kim Jong (the asshole)'s shenanigans!
For once I agree with you. There's no indication Trump has enough intelligence to deal with more than one thing at a time.
 

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Are Auschwitz and the people who ran it portrayed as heroes?
Probably not. But again, slavery had little to do with racism no matter how much they try to revise history.

It's pretty funny when you really think about it though. There were actually more White slaves than Black slaves in America. Yet you have White people (many of whom would probably have been slaves themselves over 300 years ago) protesting the removal of a "symbol of slavery" while Black people and White-guilt idiots protested the statue's public display. It's f*cking hysterical. :lol:
 

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Probably not. But again, slavery had little to do with racism no matter how much they try to revise history.
So, hereditary slavery applied to all races? Hmm. . . news to me.

It's pretty funny when you really think about it though. There were actually more White slaves than Black slaves in America.
You have a source for that? Aside from the Irish kids sent into slavery by Cromwell, who else?

Yet you have White people (many of whom would probably have been slaves themselves over 300 years ago) protesting the removal of a "symbol of slavery" while Black people and White-guilt idiots protested the statue's public display. It's f*cking hysterical. :lol:
True, and the murder was a hoot, too! Real knee-slapper!
 

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The White slaves were all indentured workers (often Scots) who eventually all bought back their freedom. Nobody was buying, selling and breeding whites, nor were the masters taking and raping white women whenever it suited their fancy. You were never born a white slave, either.
 

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The White slaves were all indentured workers (often Scots) who eventually all bought back their freedom. Nobody was buying, selling and breeding whites, nor were the masters taking and raping white women whenever it suited their fancy. You were never born a white slave, either.
I know. I just want Jin to state his false equivalency up front.

He reminds me of our lefty contingent whimpering that having to get a job to make money is slavery.
 

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So, people who are protesting should expect to be run down by cars?
Did you see the part where I called both groups extremists? So yes, if you're an idiot simply looking for trouble, you shouldn't be surprised when you find it or it finds you. These were NOT peaceful protesters or counter protesters.

One question though. Before the left-wing extremists showed up, were the right-wing extremists doing anything other than protesting the removal of the statue? Were they assaulting anyone prior to the other group showing up?

It's this simple. One extremist group showed up expecting trouble. The other extremist group didn't just take the bait, they swallowed it hook line and sinker. Not one single person there wasn't a willing participant and they should have known the risks. If you have no risk assessment skills it's because evolution is trying to weed you out.