Trump Slaps Pope in the Face

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An incredibly telling thing Trump said at today’s Paris event wasn’t about climate at all


He simply has no idea what he’s talking about on any subject.

www.vox.com/2017/6/1/15726594/trump-paris-tax-bill

Regardless of the Trump position on many issues- the reality is the Paris climate crap is a colossal producer of hot air that will do nothing for the environment. Its a political football to be kicked around by politically correct mutton heads who would be the first to wail if we took the Accord seriously and began to ban their gas guzzling toys! Real protection of the environment means hard choices about what fossil fueled items we can really dispose of without ruining the economy!

Here is an article describing why LIE-beral environmental plans are a total failure! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Carbon schemes doomed to fail: Report

By Lorrie Goldstein, Toronto Sun. First posted: Thursday, May 04, 2017 08:04 AM EDT | Updated: Thursday, May 04, 2017 08:08 AM EDT

Canada’s carbon pricing schemes are doomed to fail because their primary purpose isn’t to lower greenhouse gas emissions, but to increase government revenues and control of the economy, the Fraser Institute says in a report released Thursday.

“Carbon-pricing in Canada doesn’t work the way ivory tower economists envision, and instead has become just another tax,” said Kenneth Green, the Institute’s senior director of energy and natural resource studies, and author of Poor Implementation Undermines Carbon Tax Efficiency in Canada.

The study concludes none of the four provincial carbon pricing models introduced in Ontario, Alberta, Quebec and B.C., along with Ottawa’s national mandatory minimum carbon price which starts next year, meet the three conditions necessary to effectively reduce industrial greenhouse gas emissions linked to climate change.

First, carbon pricing must replace other forms of government regulation, not add on more regulations.

Second, the government must return all the money it raises from carbon pricing to the public in the form of reduced personal and corporate income taxes, known as revenue neutrality.

Third, governments cannot impose carbon pricing while continuing to subsidize expensive and inefficient forms of green energy, such as wind and solar power.

(Green energy such as wind power actually has a LARGER CARBON foot print than simply producing electricity from natural gas generators- because of the carbon produced in manufacturing and installing wind and solar generators- they are so unreliable that govt must keep gas plants fully fired up and ready to take over from green energy at a moments notice! It is this priority LIE-berals have given to green energy that is driving up electricity costs- along with civil service GREED for gravy! )

The Fraser Institute says no carbon pricing scheme in Canada - which will take billions of dollars out of the economy annually by increasing the taxes or prices on almost all goods and services - is revenue neutral.

Ontario, which plans to raise almost $8 billion from cap and trade over four years, is using only $1.32 billion to offset higher electricity prices, while the rest will be spent on whatever the government decides, ranging from transit, to counter-productive renewable energy subsidies, to, the Fraser report says, “dubious” efficiency programs.

(LIE-berals have engaged in such dubious green energy programs before- offering up grants to people who buy energy efficient windows- with the windows sealed nicely by new glass and heat STILL whooshing out of poorly insulated walls and ceilings-and people left with major window bills and minor grants! Its all just typical LIE-beral bait and switch- they sell the sizzle but NOT the steak! And its all designed to keep LIE-berals in power-at ANY price!)

Alberta’s carbon tax is expected to generate $4 billion from 2017 to 2020, but only $1.4 billion will be returned to low-income residents, the study says, while $2.6 billion will be spent on “favoured government projects.”

Quebec, which has raised $330 million from its cap and trade scheme so far and expects $3 billion in revenues by 2020, is not returning any money to the public in reduced income taxes, according to the report. Instead it is putting all of it into a government-mandated “Green Fund” for use as it sees fit.

B.C.’s carbon tax, the report says, was revenue neutral when it was introduced in 2008, “but by 2013-14 ... the government had taken to shaky bookkeeping to preserve the appearance, but not the reality, of revenue neutrality.”

The study estimates that by 2018-19, B.C.’s carbon tax will have increased cumulative taxes on B.C. residents by $865 million, or about $800 for a family of four.

The report concludes, “Canada’s experience with carbon taxes shows that governments have little interest in ideal implementation. Instead, rather than simply addressing greenhouse gas emissions efficiently, they prefer to create revenue streams for pet projects and retain the ability to transfer wealth ...

“Even as governments extoll the wisdom of revenue-neutral carbon pricing ... they are not prepared to implement or maintain such schemes. Rather ... carbon pricing has become just another mechanism to fund intrusive and inefficient government manipulation of the economy, while extracting a new revenue stream from our already highly-taxed private sector.”

Lorrie Goldstein

(Foolish environmentalist believe that change can be effected by simply taxing everything! To judge the value of the Carbon crap and trade tax that has been operating here in Ontari-owe for 5 months- simply aks yourself and neighbours WHAT HAVE YOU CHANGED in response to the tax? I wager that NOTHING has changed!)

(And why should there be any change? People working night shift who must travel after public transit has shut down have no choice but to drive. People living in small towns with no public transit cannot alter their carbon foot print. Civil service Hog and those on the Sunshine List have no need to change their lifestyle as govt has been topping up their salaries and pensions using carbon crap taxes- thus ensuring that those with the largest carbon foot prints will continue to spew carbon at the old rates!)

(We will continue to heat our homes as before otherwise we risk frozen pipes in winter. We will continue to use air conditioning due to the increasing heat of changing summer weather. Our grocery stores will shrug and put up the cost of food to cover their increased transportation and refrigeration costs. NOTHING will change due to carbon crap and trade tax except that a few of our poorest people will lose jobs and be pushed onto welfare rolls!)

(To save our environment we MUST make hard choices about what we can do away with! Such as riding lawn mowers that spew as much carbon in 5 minutes as a modern car on the highway for 30 minutes! Loss of such a machine will make it hard for Sunshine List types to maintain those huge lawns on 3 or 5 or 10 acre estates in Newmarket- home owners there may have to let the land revert back to a wild treed state- and trees are a handy carbon sink for greenhouse gases! But Hogs don’t like to be ordered about or inconvenienced!)

(Other items such as Muskoka Lakes `bubble systems`- those electrically powered air compressors that agitate the water around costly cedar docks at fancy summer homes-running ALL WINTER to ensure ice does not damage the dock! Nothing but an electrically powered alteration of the natural order of ice in winter- at UN-necessary environmental cost! But again, Hogs don’t like getting orders from govt- Hogs GIVE orders and they are entitled! How dare any peon of the private sector suggest that those with the largest carbon foot print might be mostly to blame for environmental change?)

(Or why not tax huge motorboats if revenue is needed? Hang out for a while at Big Chute Marine Railway and watch the huge gas guzzlers chug onto the canal! Twin 500 horsepower diesels or is it 800 horsepower each? And how many liters to fill up? 1500? 2500? And how many gallons to the mile for such a floating palace? Boats are fun things but do they have to travel at such blazing speeds- while on holiday? How much fuel consumption is too much for these Hogs? )

(And maybe we should look at restricting atv`s and snow mobiles and sea-doos as well. What price to the environment to bomb around on such a gas guzzling toy? Oh sure- they are fun- but our environment is burning and we have to call a halt some place? Do we limit gas guzzling toys in the hands of Hogs or do we force people living in places with unsuitable public transit intro bankruptcy in the hypocrite LIE-beral name of saving the environment?)

(And the really huge issue is air travel- whether hauling passengers or freight. Air planes are the dirtiest way to move anything- bar none! Scientists quoted in Cdn Geographic magazine claim airplanes produce 75 percent of ALL the pollution related to travel- that includes trains, buses, cars, ships, trucks- anything that is hauling either cargo or passengers. You can get to Florida by train and save a lot of fossil fuel in the bargain! It takes more time to travel by train but our environment is burning and hard choices must be made.)

(Ordering stuff online and getting next day delivery is nice but it would save fuel and our environment if less cargo was flown to you on planes and more was sent by truck. Yes- you might have to wait longer for delivery- perhaps even a week- but hard choices and burning environment are a stark choice! With the added bonus that making such hard choices will ensure our economy does not completely collapse in the process!)
 

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I f it was about climate why does every agreement give money to others and why do the worst polluters get a pass ?

Because it was always about money and the worst polluters would never sign on to something that says they have to give money. They cannot be shamed. They care even less about whiny Europeans and libs than conservatives do.
 

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Because it was always about money and the worst polluters would never sign on to something that says they have to give money. They cannot be shamed. They care even less about whiny Europeans and libs than conservatives do.

....again....did you read it?
 

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I f it was about climate why does every agreement give money to others and why do the worst polluters get a pass ?


Admitting your sickness , is the first stage of recovery .

Hey- those who say its all about the money-meaning gravy for civil service Hogs are right on- the money! Consider:

Is it not a sad thing that LIE-berals have solemnly assured us their carbon cap and trade garbage will be good for the environment and WON’T kill off our economy....and NOBODY believes a word of it!

I have some comments to make about federal Climate change initiatives and my comments appear in brackets beside quotes from our federal minister of carbon bullshit. And I am amazed how delusional LIE-berals are-and how much crap they expect US to swallow when it comes to climate issues? I am amazed that otherwise intelligent people will not laugh crap like this out of parliament! We are told this):

Federal Climate Change Minister Catherine McKenna has revealed the Liberal government’s targets for reducing Canada’s greenhouse gas emissions.

In saying that the Stephen Harper government’s targets are the “floor”, or minimum of what the Liberals will achieve, we now know the Liberal target is to reduce Canada’s emissions to at least 30% below 2005 levels by 2030.

From there, it’s easy to do the math.

Canada’s emissions in 2005 were 749 megatonnes and a megatonne, or Mt, is 1 million tonnes of industrial greenhouse gases.

A 30% reduction from 2005 would reduce our annual emissions to 524 Mt by 2030.

Given that Canada's current emissions are about 726 Mt annually, this means the Liberals want to reduce them, at a minimum, by 202 Mt annually by 2030.

(Yes-LIE-berals seriously PRETEND that they can shut down 30 percent of the Cdn economy in a few years without serious repercussions!)

To achieve this, the Liberals will have to shut down the equivalent of Canada’s entire oil and gas industry, which produces 179 Mt of emissions annually, within 15 years, plus find another 23 Mt of annual reductions in areas such as transportation, electricity and agriculture.

Given current emissions of 726 Mt annually, this means the Liberals intend to reduce our emissions, at a minimum, by 104 Mt annually by 2020.

So-104 MT gone by 2020 and another 100 MT in reductions between 2020 and 2030 to give the approximate 202 MT total.

To achieve this, the Liberals will have to shut down the equivalent of 58% of Canada’s oil and gas sector within five years-with the rest killed off in the next 10 years.

(LIE-berals have been spouting environmental garbage for years. Jean Chretien started the environmental manure spreader working with his Kyoto blather.)

Chretien pledged to reduce Canada’s emissions to an average of 6% below 1990 levels from 2008 to 2012, under the Kyoto accord.

That meant the Liberal target was an annual average of 576 Mt of emissions in the five years between 2008 and 2012.

When the Liberals lost power in 2006, Canada’s annual emissions were 740 Mt, or 164 Mt over Chretien’s Kyoto pledge.

(So much for LIE-beral plans-our carbon foot print ACTUALLY INCREASED by roughly the amount LIE-berals hoped to shrink it!)

To meet the Liberal target coming into office, Harper would have had to shut down the equivalent of almost all of Canada’s transportation sector (170 Mt) within two years, because the reductions required to achieve Chretien’s target of an average 6% reduction between 2008 and 2012 would have increased every year until 2012.

(Given current energy technology, the only way Trudeau could achieve the Liberal target would be to waste billions of taxpayer dollars buying fraud-ridden international carbon credits.)

(And its this international carbon credit scam that LIE-berals REALLY want to introduce-it’s a way of beating money out of the hides of Cdns and creating a HUGE LIE-beral slush fund and making tax ROBBERY LOOK virtuous because its for the environment-so they will say! Much of the cash raised will be sent overseas as foreign aid to messed up dictators in third world countries courtesy of our hard core socialist prime minster Justin Trudope who has inherited his fathers hatred for western democracy. Our PET-Pierre has been exposed as a hardcore communist who wanted to build a socialist utopia in Canada and his sons have inherited this mad dream.)

(One has only to read the `love letter to Castro` written by Sasha Trudeau-printed with serious intent in the Toronto (RED) Star newspaper and mocked in the National Post-or listen to our brainless prime minster babbling about finding the roots of terror and `engaging` with Isis to realize the Trudope world view is utterly delusional. The Trudeaus have an ultimate vision for a future Canada that makes Tyler Durgan and his Fight Club look mild by comparison!)

( This carbon crap/foreign aid/tax scam will not clean the air because LIE-berals will ensure that their pals-the most wealthy Cdns of the civil service will continue pumping out their jumbo carbon footprint while the rest of us struggle to manage our lives under the carbon credit tax burden. LIE-berals MUST BUY the votes of civil service or be swept out of office so there will be NO changes to civil service Hog lifestyle or of their ample carbon foot prints!)

(The carbon credit foreign aid will not end air pollution, it will simply move it around and allow people in other countries to take up the slack-LIE-beral carbon crap will cripple our industries and our economy with massive costs and transfer money to other people so THEY CAN drive cars and run dirty industries in our place.)

(Canadian Geographic magazine and some other media outlets give us the REAL CLUE how to clear the air-we have only to balance our govt books! Scientist were quoted in Cdn Geographic and other media outlets as saying “that in the 9 months after the 9/11 terror attack in New York-during which time 25 percent of the worlds airline fleet was grounded-there WAS MEASURABLE IMPROVEMENT in World air quality. Airplanes are the dirtiest form of transportation-WAY more FILTHY that ALL other forms of transportation combined!)

(Our environment is certainly at risk and we MUST make hard choices about what we can afford and what we really NEED! Goofing off in an airplane on holiday is NOT a NEED-especially since about a third of all Cdns cannot afford time off for any sort of holiday at all! Its mainly our WELL PAID civil service and their allies who are flying about-after all, they are paid ONE THIRD MORE for the same work as the rest of us-WITHOUT factoring in those solid gold pensions they get-the ones that are plunging into bankruptcy anyway as govt cannot shovel cash into them fast enough to cover all the entitlements-these pension plans are what most of this carbon crap and trade tax rip off will be used to prop up! This carbon crap is about foreign aid for Trudeau and about civil service pension aid to BUY LIE-beral votes-it is not and NEVER WAS about the environment.)

(Cutting back on Hog gravy will clear the air! They will be forced to do as we do-drive smaller cars, buy smaller houses, get their fat asses off costly/dirty airplanes, be more thoughtful about how often they run gas guzzling toys....and the environment WILL thank us!)

(Cut back on Hog gravy and they will stop doing insane things like running electric bubble systems to prevent the ice from forming around their docks in Muskoka-we wouldn’t want the winter ice to damage all that costly cedar would we? No matter what it does to the environment to run electric motors all winter-Hog docks are MORE IMPORTANT than clean air!)

(Cut back on gravy and they wont be running a huge motor boat up and down the Severn River so their teenagers can SURF on the huge waves! Cut back on frivolous gas guzzling toys and the world gets cleaner-and WE GET TO KEEP OUR JOBS and our HOMES!)

An incredibly telling thing Trump said at today’s Paris event wasn’t about climate at all


He simply has no idea what he’s talking about on any subject.

www.vox.com/2017/6/1/15726594/trump-paris-tax-bill

Trump is entirely right about the Paris Accords with their utterly useless blather! The Paris crap is all about robbing the little people so Hogs can continue their gas guzzling life style!
 

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He has done lots right. If the left has their panties in a knot over something Trump did you can pretty much bet it was right.

Trump is certainly a little flakey but basically on the right line. His attempt to ban Muslims who had already been processed and accepted as Yankee citizens was a little off- surely somebody should have warned him about that? But his travel ban on new Muslim arrivals is right on! The British experience is a stark warning that the more Muslims who immigrate to a country, the more terror is imported!

And here is an older article illustrating how craven is Our idiot Boy Justin!

Uh-oh....on the evening of April 27/2016 Lisa LaFlamme from CTV news reported from the Iraqi city of Erbil-with ISIS fighters 60 km down the road in Mosul. And she looked into the camera and stated the fact that is common knowledge in the area : “ the only thing preventing Isis from advancing into Erbil is Coalition air strikes.

OOPSIE! How will our prime minister-the stupid Boy with nice hair...for Brains excuse away THAT statement? Our Brainless Boy pretends to stand firm with our allies but what he really means is that he won’t get in their way-not too often anyway! And he certainly WONT make any effort to help them either! So much for his statement that the Coalition does not need our aircraft-even a media type can see it!

Isis leaders have clearly read their history. In 1939 Adolf Hitler asked: who would die for Danzig? The former German city (Danzig) was at the heart of the Polish corridor and Hitler wanted it back under German control. Hitler planned to nibble away at his enemies-taking a piece at a time but he miscalculated and grabbed too much too fast and Britain under Churchill stood up to him and changed history. To bad our miserable Boy is no great statesman nor a defender of freedom either. If Boy had been in charge in 1939 we would all be speaking German now. Certainly, Justin’s father Our Pet-Pierre Trudope spoke strongly against what he called the “British war of Imperialism against Nazi Germany”! Fortunately there are other people who do know history and are wiser than Our idiot Boy.

And.....Is it not remarkable that LIE-berals are so caught up in their hunt for more gravy and so strenuously wracking their brains for ever more creative ideas for beating money out of the hides of Cdns who don’t have any more to give, that they have not bothered to consider the threat that Isis represents to our long term safety and security!

Why, some LIE-beral loving swine has even publicly whined that Canada has only 6 piddly fighter planes and what do we really expect that Justin Trudope-Our idiot Boy ought to do about Isis-with such small resources?

I answer this: Our foolish Boy should IMMEDIATELY admit he is in way over his head and RESIGN as prime minister and leave the job open to somebody who has a clue! But he is WAY too arrogant for that and also oblivious of the damage he is doing both economically and militarily so we are stuck with the swine for a few years.

Since Our idiot Boy wont go quietly, here is what he should do: First, he should immediately STOP taking advice from social workers and civil service union executives because those swine will sell us all out for more gravy!

Second, Boy should IMMEDIATELY apologize to our allies and send our fighters BACK to Syria!

Third, BUY MORE FIGHTERS! The ones we have are wearing out fast! Boy is also under ORDERS from NATO to spend more on defense. There is a requirement that ALL NATO members in good standing MUST spend a specific proportion of govt national revenue on its military-Canada is currently spending LESS THAN HALF of the minimum amount mandated for any Nato nation!

And somebody should tell Boy that there will be economic consequences for abandoning our allies. Isn`t that nice-in a time of war against Isis we are seen as SLACKERS! Boy might want to apologize for that too...and also apologize to our allies for his idiot father who wanted to unilaterally DISARM Canada in the face of Soviet threats in the 1970`s and 1980`s-and ABANDON our allies in a desperate time!

Fourth, recognize that a lot of people around the globe think it’s a CRAP idea to train MORE MUSLIMS in combat methods as Our idiot Boy wants to do ! Turks are fighting a THIRTY YEAR LONG civil war against Kurds and DON’T want more of them trained. Iraqi tribal and religious groups are squabbling amongst themselves over drugs, oil revenue, organized crime; and the Sunni/Shite garbage. Israelis have been fighting Muslims for 70 years and THEY don’t want more Muslim combat troops out there! NOBODY wants Muslims to get better combat skills! And they SURE don’t want Muslims to get access to MORE heavy weapons! Muslims need to fight well enough to defeat Isis- WITH WESTERN HELP- and that’s it!

Fifth, recognize that although air power alone won’t win wars, air power SURELY paves the way and makes the fighting easier for when ground forces advance! Our various allies HAVE boots on the ground; what they NEED is LOTS of firepower targeted with skill and precision-hence the need for our Boy to get his head out of his back side and send back the planes to join our allies who DO know what they are doing! Best of all, access to western aircraft gives our allies the heavy firepower they need to win against ISIS and once peace comes, that heavy firepower FLIES AWAY out of reach of militant Muslims!

Fighting man against man with rifles is primitive 19th century stuff and guaranteed to produce a lot of widows and orphans on both sides of the war. But using modern aircraft against Isis infantry and armour is very effective-especially in open country like the desert and especially when the enemy has no modern anti aircraft weapons. The enemy gets hit hard and our side gets off lightly-only Our idiot Boy would see something wrong with that!

Sixth, recognize the moral boost that air power gives. Nobody wants to die in defense of a lost cause, but lots of people will be brave and help if they figure there is a good chance they can both WIN and SURVIVE! Air power is a winning ticket-a technical punch that Isis cannot match. Air power enhances the morale and fighting spirit of those we want to win and degrades the fighting power and morale of Isis. Consider the effect on Isis morale knowing that at any time of day or night a prowling drone is liable to be watching them and either getting ready to make its own attack or whistling up a mass of fighter bombers if the target is big enough.

Seventh, some doofus said we should stick to what we are good at and in this doofus is correct. We spent a LOT of tax payers money training our pilots and they are among the best-go check out how often the pilots based in Cold Lake Alberta have won the Top Gun fighter competition-its been so often they might as well call it the Cold Lake trophy so let our pilots do their job!

So there is lots for our Boy to do-just too bad he doesn’t want to do any of it because he takes after his Communist swine father and despises western civilization! Boy WANTS to see the Great Satan humbled!

And hey LIE-berals if your only response to my posts is insults then you don’t really have ANY intelligent response do you?
 

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The pope who lives behind a wall that other people paid for, and who has a mafia bank(s) eh?
that pope?
 

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The pope who lives behind a wall that other people paid for, and who has a mafia bank(s) eh?
that pope?

OOOOOHHH! I DO LOVE that crude Muslim propaganda! The people who follow the Pope do so VOLUNTARILY- just like the murderous knuckleheads of ISIS who follow mad Mullahs in hope of earning 72 virgins! Who wants to guess that the average ISIS goof would not know what to do with a willing virgin if she fell into his lap? All they know is cutting out the clitoris and pointing guns during the ensuing rape!

The POPE IS ENTITLED to his opinion- and WE are entitled and make use of that right- to IGNORE his more wingnut values when it suits us!

This right to follow or to ignore- as WE see fit is a key part of that system called democracy- the system that ISIS is fighting to destroy!

Our willingness to ignore the pope when he says something goofy is in SHARP contrast to the standard reaction of an Imam and his crowd of Muslim followers!


Here is an older article illustrating that Trump ain’t so crazy as some would suggest! And that Barak Obama was a worse president than some believe! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Donald Trump accuses Australia of seeking to export the 'next Boston bombers':

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS. First posted: Thursday, February 02, 2017 07:56 AM EST | Updated: Thursday, February 02, 2017 01:08 PM EST

CANBERRA, Australia — President Donald Trump abruptly ended a telephone exchange with Australia's prime minister after accusing him of seeking to export the "next Boston bombers," according to a report.

Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull insisted Thursday that a deal struck with the Obama administration that would allow mostly Muslim refugees rejected by Australia to be resettled in the United States was still on, despite President Donald Trump dubbing the agreement “dumb” and vowing to review it.

(Trump has a point- WHY would Obama agree to accept Muslims that have already been REJECTED by Australia? How desperate is the Yankee need for immigrants at any price anyway?)

The conflicting messages came hours after The Washington Post published a story detailing a tense exchange between Trump and during their first telephone call as national leaders.

(Considering the 3000 dead in the ruins of World Trade Centre and the dozens more dead in California and Miami shootings and the Boston marathon bombings one has to ask WHY Yankees would now accept ANY Muslim refugees?)

The newspaper reported that during the call, an angry Trump dubbed the agreement “the worst deal ever” and accused Turnbull of seeking to export the “next Boston bombers” — a reference to Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, U.S. citizens born in Kyrgyzstan, who set off two bombs at the 2013 Boston marathon.

Turnbull declined to comment on the report, which also said Trump abruptly ended the expected hour-long conversation after 25 minutes as the Australian attempted to steer the conversation to other topics.

(Yeah, if I was prime minister Turnbull I would not want to talk about my efforts to sell Trump on the virtue of importing more Muslim rejects either-it’s a guaranteed “looking foolish” moment!)

“It’s better that these things — these conversations — are conducted candidly, frankly, privately,” Turnbull told reporters. Later, however, he denied during an interview with Sydney radio station 2GB that Trump had hung up on him, saying the conversation had ended “courteously.”

Turnbull told reporters the strength of the relationship between the two nations was evident in that Trump had agreed to honour the deal to resettle refugees from among around 1,600 asylum seekers, most of whom are on island camps on the Pacific nations of Nauru and Papua New Guinea. Australia has refused to accept them and instead pays for them to be housed on the impoverished islands.

(Oh- a little Australian rent money for third world islanders- too bad the islands are too small to take in all those Muslim asylum seekers! Lots of Cdns would happily pay the air fare to ship Muslims- ONE WAY- to some Pacific atoll!)

“I can assure you the relationship is very strong,” Turnbull said. “The fact we received the assurance that we did, the fact that it was confirmed, the very extensive engagement we have with the new administration underlines the closeness of the alliance. But as Australians know me very well: I stand up for Australia in every forum — public or private.”

Yet shortly after Turnbull made those comments to reporters, Trump took to Twitter to slam the deal.

“Do you believe it? The Obama Administration agreed to take thousands of illegal immigrants from Australia. Why?” Trump tweeted. “I will study this dumb deal!”

Australians — accustomed to the friendly relationship they have long enjoyed with the U.S. — were transfixed by the drama. The Washington Post story shot to the top of the nation’s trending topics on Twitter, and was plastered across the top of Australia’s major news sites.

The country’s news networks launched running commentaries on it, debating how Turnbull should respond and what the spat meant for the future of the longtime allies’ relationship.

(Australians are more aggressive with refugees than Canada- they store refugees in an un-used missile range in the desolate heart of their country-its rather as if Canada shipped refugees to some camp built in the centre of Labrador-there is just no way in or out without govt vehicles and govt passes! And yet refugees coming to Australia are so arrogant that one Afghan man sewed his lips shut and went on a hunger strike because Australian authorities were-in his opinion- taking too long to process him! Is making LOUD demands really the best way of asking for charity? And why would Trump want to take on such people?)

Trump, who a day before the conversation with Turnbull had signed an executive order suspending the admission of refugees, complained during the call that he was “going to get killed” politically by the deal, the newspaper reported, citing anonymous officials.

“I don’t want these people,” Trump reportedly said. Trump also told Turnbull that he had spoken to four world leaders that day and that: “This is the worst call by far.”

Trump told Turnbull that it was “my intention” to honour the agreement, a phrase designed to leave the president wriggle room to back out of the deal, the newspaper reported.

There have been mixed messages from Washington all week on the state of the agreement.

White House spokesman Sean Spicer confirmed on Wednesday that Trump had agreed to honour the deal.

But a White House statement sent to Australian Broadcasting Corp. on Thursday said: “The president is still considering whether or not he will move forward with this deal at this time.”

(No doubt Trump wants much more information about WHY Australians are rejecting these refugees before he decides anything?)

The U.S. State Department said in a statement later Thursday that the United States would honour the agreement “out of respect for close ties to our Australian ally and friend.”

(Maybe Trump has ideas about just shipping the problem back to the Middle East where it came from? And should have stayed there!)

“President Trump’s decision to honour the refugee agreement has not changed and Spokesman Spicer’s comments stand,” the State Department said.

The ABC spoke to senior Australian government sources who said The Washington Post report was “substantially accurate.”

Australian officials said the conversation was “robust” and “shorter than expected,” while one minister told the ABC that “Trump hates this deal.”

(In the apparent absence of firm directions from the suddenly reluctant and un-decided Trump- one has to ask if the contradictory statements from White House reflect the personal views of the officials making them? Australia IS a valued ally-who is currently trying to dump their Muslim refugee trouble on Yankees!)

Opposition leader Bill Shorten called on Turnbull to be open about his interaction with Trump, saying The Washington Post version of the call was worrying.

“We shouldn’t be finding out about what’s happening to Australian policy through the news of foreign countries,” Shorten said.

Turnbull has likened himself to Trump in that both are wealthy businessmen who came to politics late in life. Turnbull also has a reputation for blunt conversation and tough negotiations behind closed doors.

Turnbull has resisted pressure this week to join other Western leaders in condemning Trump’s temporary ban of immigrants from seven Muslim-majority countries.

“When I have frank advice to give to an American president, I give it privately, as good friends should, as wise prime ministers do when they want to ensure they are best able to protect Australians and Australia’s national interest,” Turnbull told reporters on Tuesday.

Some observers suspect Turnbull has held his tongue because he is grateful to Trump for agreeing to honour the refugee deal.

(A quarter loaf is better than none? At least Trump has not yet fully backed out and diplomacy may still be maintained?)
 

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Pelosi: Trump Dishonored God By Walking Away From Paris Accord
Pelosi: Trump Dishonored God By Walking Away From Paris Accord - Breitbart

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Climate conversion? Al Gore: 'I could become a Catholic because of this Pope'

Pope calls global warming a sin
says protecting creation is work of mercy
https://cruxnow.com/vatican/2016/09...ming-sin-says-protecting-creation-work-mercy/

lol, the dimwit FLATEARTH god that can't do science.
GAWD!

Being someone who has posted the proof here at CC several times that show the abrahamistic religions ( all three of them, if you aren't also good at math) are complete and total frauds, I can safely say the communist nazi pope is the biggest fraud on the planet.

DELINGPOLE: ‘Global Warming’ Is a Myth, Say 58 Scientific Papers in 2017
http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...al-warming-is-myth-58-scientific-papers-2017/

Global warming will save millions of lives
Dire predictions about climate change and health omit the cost of cold, says Bjorn Lomborg.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/...obal-warming-will-save-millions-of-lives.html

...so global warming is a sin says that MURDEROUS PEDO
 
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So a goof who has just confirmed that pedo priests will NOT be prosecuted by the church is concerned about "sin"? And meanwhile the Catholic Church still takes a pretty hard stand on homosexuality. The pope is a f*ck wit pure and simple.