Trudeau 'welcomes' ethics probe of alleged PMO interference in SNC-Lavalin case

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Jody Wilson-Raybould joins calls for judicial appointment leak probe amid SNC-Lavalin scandal

Former attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould is adding her voice to calls for some kind of investigation into the leak of confidential information about the judicial appointments process to the Supreme Court amid the SNC-Lavalin scandal.
On Monday, unnamed sources reportedly told the Canadian Press and CTV that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau had been concerned about a recommendation from Wilson-Raybould to appoint Manitoba judge Glenn Joyal as chief justice of the Supreme Court back in 2017.
READ MORE: Justice committee receives promised extra material from Wilson-Raybould on SNC-Lavalin
Judicial appointments are highly confidential. Names under consideration or reasons for passing on specific candidates are virtually never disclosed.
Wilson-Raybould said the leak jeopardized the process of judicial appointments and must be investigated.
“I do feel compelled to say that I have not — as some have suggested — been the source of any of these stories, nor have I ever authorized any person to speak on my behalf," she said.
"I strongly condemn anyone who would speak about or provide information on such sensitive matters. Any commentary/reporting in this regard with respect to a SCC [Supreme Court of Canada] appointment(s) could compromise the integrity of the appointments process, our institutions and potentially sitting justices."
She continued, adding, "This has to stop and given the seriousness of this matter I feel that there should be consideration of having some sort of investigation as to the source of this information.”
Lisa Raitt, Conservative deputy leader, also called for an investigation into the leak earlier on Wednesday.
Raitt highlighted the Office of the Commissioner for Federal Judicial Affairs Canada as a potential venue to conduct the probe, and said she had made a request.....more in the link

There should be a mountain of dirty laundry by Oct. at this rate
 

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Twist and spin the narrative find something that will stick Lol

Wilson-Raybould sat on wrongfully convicted man's case


"MacDonald questioned Wilson-Raybould's suggestion that she had many potential wrongful conviction cases to deal with.

"I wouldn't think that there would be a great deal of applications being processed or reviewed by the criminal conviction review group," he said.

The group screens out the "vast majority" of applications that are deemed to have little merit. It fully investigates only those that appear to be likely or possible miscarriages of justice — "an ultra rare and exclusive club that very few Canadians, fortunately, have found themselves members in. It's like a rare, albino rhinoceros," he added."
 

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For sure the minister and especially his/her bureaucrats can, and do, tweak, interpret - and even get away with ignoring - parts of the act, as they go about administering it. But the act, offensive as its very concept is to those who live under it, still stands. I can easily understand what a repugnant insult it could be to an indigenous person, to be ordered to implement its provisions.

It appears that not all FNs would agree with you on this, VIBC.

Jody Wilson-Raybould Turns Down Reconciliation’s Crown Jewel

March 8, 2019

Winnipeg, MB – It is surprising to hear that, prior to her appointment as Minister of Veterans Affairs, Jody Wilson-Raybould turned down the Indigenous Services portfolio. According to Wilson-Raybould, her long-standing opposition to the Indian Act informed her decision. But this reason does not sit well with the President of the Manitoba Metis Federation, David Chartrand, who notes that she was complicit in upholding the Indian Act as Minister of Justice and as Attorney General.

“The biggest stumbling block for the Métis Nation, First Nations, or Inuit as they assert their sovereignty in this country is the Department of Justice and the Attorney General,” said President Chartrand. “Look at the Daniel’s case or our 32-year Land Claims case. These kinds of cases take decades to get to a resolution and guess who is the gatekeeper preventing progress? It’s the Minister of Justice and the Attorney General.”

Wilson-Raybould’s supporters have suggested that appointing an Indigenous person Minister of Indigenous Services is like asking Nelson Mandela to support apartheid. But as Chartrand noted, “this is wrong. After serving years 27 years in prison, Mandela worked with Deputy President De Klerk to dismantle apartheid. Had Wilson-Raybould accepted the position with Indigenous Services, she could’ve made history by dismantling the Indian Act,” says President Chartrand. “This could have been the crown-jewel of reconciliation. For her to decline the position, I think, it’s kind of deceptive. In my view, I find it hypocritical to say you want to serve Indigenous people but won’t step up to the most important position.”

“I state unequivocally,” continued Chartrand, “her belief that no Indigenous person should be Minister of Indigenous Services is wrong. There are many great Indigenous leaders in this country, many present and past Métis leaders, chiefs and Inuit leaders who would stay the course and make the bold changes to the Act and who would not put their personal preferences over the pursuit of reconciliation.”

March 8, 2019 – CTV “Your Morning” Interview: https://www.ctv.ca/YourMorning/Vide...-Raybould-should-have-done-things-differently

nationtalk.ca/story/jody-wilson-raybould-turns-down-reconciliations-crown-jewel


First Nations leaders regret Jody Wilson-Raybould’s rejecting Indigenous Services post

nationalpost.com/news/canada/wilson-raybould-could-have-effected-change-in-indigenous-services-leaders
 

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It appears that not all FNs would agree with you on this, VIBC.
Haha; or with each other for that matter. I doubt that any of them as been following my posts! This indigenous leader's disagreement - actually disapproval - is with JW-R's postion, not mine.

Mine, as stated is "I can easily understand what a repugnant insult it could be ..." and I still think I can understand it. Are all her actions/statements thoroughly consistent with each other? Possibly/probably not. Whose are?
 

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What do you have against women?




OH...................HOID follows the lead of his idol - Our idiot Boy Justin - with regard to women!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Hoid thinks women should be OBEDIENT LIE-berals and stop making the idiot Boy look even worse than before!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Hoid objects to women who will not fall on their sword for the good of the party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And HOID is a Fake Feminist just like his phony idol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And when all is said and done.............................


and Our idiot Boy is finally dragged off the political stage........................


weeping and wailing......................................


and the Cdn public is laughing at him...................................


HOID will tell us we are wrong..............................


and that HOID experienced the Trudope years DIFFERENTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yes Hoid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WE ALL KNOW you spew Fake News on behalf of LIE-berals everywhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But how sad the quality of your arguments have DROPPED SO DRASTICALLY in recent months!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You have been reduced to mono-syllabic grunts and unhappy little sneers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Soon you will have nobody left to defend.........................


and no material left to craft your Fakery with!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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A rather large development in the SNC story.

Mr Scheer has been saying that Mr Trudeau's claim that SNC said there would be job loss if no DPA was in place had been "debunked" by SNC's CEO.

In fact. I believe he may have even said that in the House.

Well, guess what?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/snc-lavalin-warned-of-move-abroad-1.5075840

There seems to be proof that SNC made the claim.

LOL

When will Mr Scheer apologise?
 

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I think I've seen reports that the SNC CEO said first, that no he never mentioned potential job losses; then later said that yes, he did talk about them.

On the Lavalin issue it seems that on every point of contention you can find statements that 'prove' one thing and statements that 'prove' exactly the opposite; sometimes made by the same person.

It's politics and big business. What else would we expect?
 

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This isn't really so much a statement as a powerpoint presentation.

But don't worry Mr Scheer will be owning up with an apology in 3,2,1....
 

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Who will be losing jobs? Where? What type? Exec or blue collar? Canada wide or a just on little Island in the St Larry? Why can't they survive without Govt contracts? Are Liberal Pensions or Trudeau Foundation investors in SNC-Lavalin?

What's the deal hoid? You pretend to know, why not lay it all out for us for are you just going to keep on shovelling unicorn shit?


Thanks for the donation!
 

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A rather large development in the SNC story.

Mr Scheer has been saying that Mr Trudeau's claim that SNC said there would be job loss if no DPA was in place had been "debunked" by SNC's CEO.

In fact. I believe he may have even said that in the House.

Well, guess what?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/snc-lavalin-warned-of-move-abroad-1.5075840

There seems to be proof that SNC made the claim.

LOL

When will Mr Scheer apologise?




HOID SNEERS "there seems to be proof"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And HOID the half assed LIE-beral TROLL wants Scheer to apologize for something that MIGHT have appeared to be true...........................


IF LIE-berals managed to HIDE ALL the dirty details!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy Justin specifically SAID he was "worried about jobs" at SNC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And WHY would that be????????????????????


UNLESS...............................................


AS Andrew Scheer and others have said........................................


THERE IS A LOT WE DONT YET KNOW ABOUT THE LAVALIN MESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If the FULL DIRTY STORY came out................................


just HOW MUCH damage would it do??????????????????????????


There is the question that HOID is furiously DUCKING AND COVERING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Hoid handles things like Lavalin as if he was a sick cat to weak to properly BURY its mess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


There is EVERY REASON to suspect that the Lavalin Mess would be SERIOUSLY DAMAGING to a lot of LIE-beral reputations if the FULL STORY came out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And what of the recent news quote form Lavalin CEO that he had warned LIE-berals that the company might need to move to United States if it was not exempted from prosecution???????????????????????


THAT sounds like political and economic blackmail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And its not as if we have not seen these scenes of LIE-beral BLUSTER in hope of silencing critics before!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Would Hoid like to report on how well Kathleen Wynne is doing with her lawsuit against Time Hudak over his statements about the gas plants???????????????????


Yes............Wynne-bag launched a LAWSUIT for slander at Hudak over his statements about the gas plants!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And now that a couple of LIE-berals have been JAILED over the gas plant mess..................................


would HOID wish to explain how much in DAMAGES Wynne-bag expects to collect from her lawsuit?????????????????


And were there not other LIE-beral threats of lawsuits over the Sudbury bribery scandal?????????????????


Why yes.....................I believe THERE WERE SUCH LIE-beral THREATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


IT IS ILLEGAL to offer BRIBES to MPP candidates!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And yet LIE-berals DID EXACTLY THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


BY BENDING the letter of the law!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals FIRED their own candidate....................and then bribed the FORMER candidate not to complain or kick up a fuss...............


so the chosen new LIE-beral candidate could be slipped into the riding with minimal problems!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And then LIE-berals selected a DISGRUNTLED former NDP candidate........................and BRIBED HIM to BECOME the LIE-beral candidate instead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But in the eyes of LIE-berals and the trial judge...........................NONE of this bribery was illegal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Because the old LIE-beral candidate had been FIRED JUST BEFORE GETTING HIS BRIBE and thus was NO longer a candidate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And the new guy had not yet been signed on when he got his BRIBE.......................so he was not a candidate either!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-beral style Legal Word Games are FUN arent they!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Or at least they would be if they did not COST us so very much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What with the bribery and the TRIAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Although it is AMUSING that LIE-berals still get RILED UP at being called LIE-berals............................


even after being caught out in all this CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Andrew Scheer HAS NOTHING to apologize for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals on the other hand should be crawling across broken glass while begging for MERCY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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There is good reason they refuse to testify under oath, they're guilty of criminal activity.

Canadians would put this to bed if they made that moral leap and we're willing to risk criminal charges and sacrifice their freedom in order to clear their names.




HERE IS A THOUGHT......................................


WHY NOT temporarily ignore JWR and Philpot............................


and FULLY investigate the testimony heard at the Charbonneau PROVINCIAL INQUIRY.................................


that had LIMITED authority to investigate federal and international bribery charges against Lavalin.........................


since Charbonneau really only investigated allegations involving Quebec provincial govt contracts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Charbonneau apparently ONLY seriously investigated charges related to PROVINCIAL BRIBERY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Events involving federal jurisdiction were heard about but not dealt fully with!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Charbonneau heard testimony that MULTIPLE engineering firms were involved in govt bribery!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


YET ONLY Lavalin was ever charged!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The LIE-beral FIX IS IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


There IS ample reason to believe JWR and Philpot when they say THERE IS MUCH MORE TO THE LAVALIN STORY than we have heard so far!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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"Under that plan, SNC would move its Montreal headquarters and corporate offices in Ontario and Quebec to the U.S. within a year, cutting its workforce to just 3,500 from 8,717, before eventually winding up its Canadian operations."

Oh my.

I imagine Mr Scheer has already held his press conference to express his regrets for jumping to such politically damaging conclusions.
 

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HERE IS A THOUGHT......................................


WHY NOT temporarily ignore JWR and Philpot............................


and FULLY investigate the testimony heard at the Charbonneau PROVINCIAL INQUIRY.................................
that had LIMITED authority to investigate federal and international bribery charges against Lavalin.........................
since Charbonneau really only investigated allegations involving Quebec provincial govt contracts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Charbonneau apparently ONLY seriously investigated charges related to PROVINCIAL BRIBERY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Events involving federal jurisdiction were heard about but not dealt fully with!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Charbonneau heard testimony that MULTIPLE engineering firms were involved in govt bribery!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YET ONLY Lavalin was ever charged!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The LIE-beral FIX IS IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There IS ample reason to believe JWR and Philpot when they say THERE IS MUCH MORE TO THE LAVALIN STORY than we have heard so far!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Aber ich mag die Kommunisten, da die Nazis mehr sind als normale Denker, die sich schämen, gegen die Nazis zu sein. Als Protestant kann ich Kommunisten mögen und die Nazis sind nur mein Glaube an Atheismus. Wie gesagt, ich dachte, es gäbe einen größeren, normalen Denker als alle Nazis.
 

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A vailed threat is your proof, Plan B if they don't get their way, then after it was revealed that they were under contract not to move their offices from Montreal.
 

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A vailed threat is your proof, Plan B if they don't get their way, then after it was revealed that they were under contract not to move their offices from Montreal.
Is that anything like "veiled"?

At any rate what it is is a powerpoint presentation recovered from an archive of a talk given to the Liberals by SNC.

So that is now rebunked.

The Liberals were told it would bring jobs into question.