Trudeau says Canada expressed 'dissatisfaction' over Chinese minister's outburst

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Trudeau says Canada expressed 'dissatisfaction' over Chinese minister's outburst.

But first he had to rinse out his mouth. :)
 

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China's Ambassador to Canada Lu Shaye is shown at the Embassy of the People's Republic of China in Canada, in Ottawa on Thursday, June 29, 2017. The Trudeau government should spend less time bowing down to Canadian journalists preoccupied with human rights and get on with negotiating an important free trade agreement with China, says the country's ambassador.


Chinese ambassador Lu Shaye blamed the Canadian media for disseminating a negative portrait of his country that depicts it as an abuser of human rights and lacking democracy.

The envoy levelled the accusations during a lengthy interview at the Chinese Embassy in Ottawa with The Canadian Press.

Canada says the issue is linked to economic engagement with China and wants it part of any formal trade pact.

China disagrees strongly, saying the two issues are not linked.

“I think the Canadian government is pressured by the media on this issue,” Lu said through a translator provided by his embassy.

“I think that Canadian media is quite influential.”

Lu then interjected in English to stress that Canadian politicians sometimes have to “bow before media.”

He recommended the approach of his country’s ruling communist party as an efficient way of dealing with the media.

“The Chinese Communist Party and the government is good at listening to public opinion and also they do their part to lead and mobilize people for a common cause.”

Lu said when he arrived in Canada four months ago, his top priority was to deepen co-operation between the two countries.

Justin Trudeau and China’s leadership have taken steps to expand bilateral relations, with the prime minister travelling to China last summer and then hosting Premier Li Keqiang in Ottawa several weeks later.

Trudeau wants to deepen economic and political relations with China.

But Trudeau has also pledged not to shy away from engaging with China on the sensitive area. He used a speech in Shanghai last fall to say Canada encourages China to do more to protect and promote human rights.

Soon after arriving in Canada, Lu said he was struck by the negative view of his home country that he saw taking shape, mainly in Canadian media.

“I feel that in Canada, and especially its media, there seems some misunderstanding about China, which is detrimental to bilateral co-operation,” he said.

“For example, the Canadian side fear the Chinese will buy up all their resources or steal their advanced technology.”
He also said Canadians “don’t see any merit in China” and don’t think it’s a worthwhile trading partner.

Canadians, he added, “look down upon China” and see a country with no democracy, human rights or freedom.

Lu said his country is not afraid to talk about human rights and democracy, but what China objects to is linking them to economic and trade issues.

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Chinese ambassador Lu Shaye blamed the Canadian media for disseminating a negative portrait of his country that depicts it as an abuser of human rights and lacking democracy.
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How China buys the silence of the world's human rights critics


As Nobel Peace Prize laureate Liu Xiaobo struggles on his sick bed in a heavily guarded Chinese hospital, leaders of G20 nations gathered in Germany made no official mention of the activist.

It was a telling sign of the waning momentum of China's human rights movement: the name of China's most famous political prisoner was not even officially brought up as Chinese President Xi Jinping and German Chancellor Angela Merkel instead bonded over pandas and soccer.

Rather than upset the leader of the world's second-largest economy and a major global ally, officials of foreign nations would rather keep their lips buttoned in public and focus on trade and bilateral ties.

This is in stark contrast to the days when international pressure could make a difference in the fate of individuals fighting for rights in China – when Beijing was still sensitive enough to listen.

Late Chinese astrophysicist Fang Lizhi, who was among the "black hands" blamed for instigating the 1989 Tiananmen Square protest, was welcomed into the Beijing embassy on June 5 that year as a guest of former US president George Bush with the help of veteran sinologist Perry Link. Fang and his wife hid in the embassy for 13 months before going on to live as exiles in the US. They also could be thankful for the negotiations of diplomat Henry Kissinger and Brent Scowcroft, who was then the US national security adviser.

Former political prisoner Wei Jingsheng, who spent about 18 years in jail, was released at the request of former US president Bill Clinton. Wei was deported by Beijing in 1997 after being granted medical parole, and headed to the US.

"The effect of foreign pressure on the [Chinese] government is diminishing," said Link, a comparative literature and foreign languages professor at the University of California at Riverside who co-translated the Tiananmen Papers, which detailed the Chinese government's response to the 1989 democracy protests. He also translated into English "Charter 08", the document that Liu co-authored calling for political reform in China.

Given the treatment of Liu and the government's massive crackdown on lawyers and activists since July 2015, observers say the disappearing pressure over China's rights record could in turn embolden Beijing to turn the screws further on dissident voices.

Maya Wang, a senior researcher with Human Rights Watch's Asia division, warned that the Chinese government would be "rewarded and encouraged [to continue] its impunity in mistreating political activists".

"If G20 nations fail to publicly press the Chinese government to free Liu, they would lose credibility in pressing for human rights everywhere, not just in China," Wang said.

China has gathered economic strength and political influence as its authoritarian regime expanded in the years following the 2007-08 global economic crisis.

Steve Tsang, director of the SOAS China Institute in London, said: "The size and importance of the Chinese economy, with all that entails, meant others are now much more careful in raising human rights issues with Beijing."

Recent examples of foreign governments putting economic interests ahead of lobbying for rights in China indeed suggest the nation is rich enough to mute critics. Cases in point are the financially embattled Greek government's vetoing of a EU statement condemning China's rights record at a UN meeting last month and Norwegian Prime Minister Erna Solberg's refusal last week to comment on calls for Liu's release. Bilateral ties between Norway and China were only normalised in December following a six-year freeze that began when Liu, by then behind bars, was awarded the 2010 Nobel Peace Prize in absentia.

Robert Daly of the Kissinger Institute on China and the United States at the Washington-based Woodrow Wilson Centre, said Beijing was aware its authoritarianism prevented it from gaining the international respect it sought; but it needed to weigh global approval against domestic stability, especially when "[global] concerns over human rights" could be bought off.

"For now, China can be confident that the West will not launch an effective challenge to Beijing's crackdown on free expression," Daly said.

He added that Beijing had also grown "more self-certain" by providing "investment, aid and other international public goods which are winning it international influence, if not admiration".

China demonstrated its unwillingness to put up with any more criticism of its rights record in June last year, when Foreign Minister Wang Yi vented his anger at a Canadian journalist who raised the issue at a joint press conference with the Canadian foreign minister in Ottawa.

"Other people don't know better than the Chinese people about the human rights condition in China and it is the Chinese people who are in the best situation, in the best position, to have a say about China's human rights situation," Wang said, going on to label the journalist's questions "groundless and unwarranted accusations".

Tsang said Beijing "does not feel that foreign powers have any right to put pressure on what it sees as domestic affairs".

"As far as the [Communist Party] is concerned, China's human rights conditions are excellent, and no changes are required, though there would always be scope for the party to take an even stronger leadership role," Tsang said. "If they see no problem, they see no scope for improvement, only scope for the party to tighten control."

Beijing previously appeared less inured to international pressure, which was credited with playing a role in improving the treatment of individual human rights defenders.

In February 2007, Gao Yaojie, a retired gynaecologist best known for her Aids-prevention work during an HIV epidemic in Henan province, was placed under house arrest. However, the local authorities soon bowed to international pressure and allowed her to travel to the US, where she now lives.

In previous decades, Western countries collectively pressured China to improve its rights record, but that was no longer the case, Daly said.

How China buys the silence of the world's human rights critics
 

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AND RAISES HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUES Unlike our current little chickenshit. Imagine, having balls so goddam tiny you'll let some piece of shit foreign f*ck berate the media in your own damn country and say nothing. Well we don't have to imagine it, we already witnessed it.
 

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We can kiss Canada’s human rights credibility goodbye

Damning revelations about Ottawa’s handling of the controversial $15-billion arms deal with human-rights pariah Saudi Arabia have confirmed that the Liberal government authorized the bulk of this contract even after having repeatedly claimed that it had already been approved by the previous government.

Both the Harper Conservatives and the Trudeau Liberals have argued that failing to fulfill the deal would damage Canada’s international reputation. But it is the reputation cost of actually fulfilling this dubious contract that all Canadians should be most concerned about.


Any Canadian attempt to speak out on international efforts to protect human rights will soon be met with skepticism and disdain. One can almost hear it: “Ha! … Says the country that is arming one of the most repressive regimes on Earth.”
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opi...ts-credibility-goodbye/article29630940/?ord=1

there is your problem
him who is without sin, throw the first stone eh?
;)
first you have to be without sin.

Canada sucks at human rights and at looking in the mirror.
But then, what can you expect from a country who's leader is BFF with jewish george soros, the country, and currency killer, who helped put his fellow jews on the train for hitler.

 
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Little-known fact among Canada's general population: the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms itself violates the International convention on Civil and Political Rights.

Yes, comparing Canada's human rights record to that of the PRC or Saudi Arabia is like comparing a petty shoplifter to a mass murderer. However, let's be honest, it's hard to take the petty shoplifter seriously as he criticizes the murderer's actions.
 

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Who knows, murder may be on the docket tomorrow and like with drugs, in this case we are the dealer.
That's the thing about arms sales to a country like the sauds.

"The thug who supplied the gun used to kill Rhys Jones once tried to return to the neighbourhood where the youngster's grieving parents were still living.

James Yates was banned from visiting the area where fellow 'Croxteth Crew' gang member, Sean Mercer, shot the 11-year-old dead in August using the weapon he supplied.

He was released from prison in 2014 after serving just five years for supplying the Smith and Wesson revolver used to kill Rhys"
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/how-thug-who-supplied-gun-10423129

More than 1,500 children dead in two years of Saudi Arabia led Yemen war: UN
The conflict in Yemen has killed nearly 7,700 people, including at least 1,564 children, since a Saudi-led coalition intervened on the government’s side two years ago
http://www.hindustantimes.com/world...emen-war-un/story-tg9DdVYZvOZbs4PdLCdFPM.html

...and that government isn't even legitimate.

That's about 7000 years of jail someone in Canada should serve to balance the books.
I say harper and trudy should split it.
 
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Will these neo-libs led by the great feminist Trudeau and Morneau actually challenge the Chinese or simply sell Canada out? Can we protest by calling the Libs out on this to at least embarrass them, if they can be shamed.


The Chinese are stealthily taking over the world economically particularly in Africa and South America.

Macleans won't let me copy and paste so you will have to read the article yourself.......

It’s time for Canada to stand up to China’s censorship crackdown

China has fortified its propaganda firewall and Liberals turned a blind eye
 

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On Monday, the Chinese newspaper Global Times, a stridently nationalist media outlet owned by the Communist Party, published an article saying Mr. Scheer is demonstrating "faulty logic and blindness" to the benefits of a bilateral trade pact.

"The opposition leader's statement shows nothing but his arrogant and biased attitude toward China," according to the article written by Global Times journalist Wang Jiamei. "Scheer's logic is beguiling but wrong."

The columnist said it was unfair of Mr. Scheer to compare Canadian labour, environmental and human rights standards to China, which he said remains a developing country.

"If Canada requires a potential FTA [free-trade-agreement] partner country to have the same ideology and labour standards as itself, then it should probably only look at Western countries," he said. "Few developing countries could meet Mr. Scheer's standards for a level playing field."

Citing two corporate lobby groups in Canada, Mr. Wang pointed to the increase in business Australia and New Zealand enjoyed after they concluded free-trade deals with China. Canada's economy would similarly prosper if a trade deal was negotiated, he predicted.

"A China-Canada free-trade agreement would increase Canada's GDP by 7.8 billion Canadian dollars, … boost its exports by 7.7 billion Canadian dollars and add 25,000 jobs by 2030, according to a 2016 white paper released by the Canada-China Business Council and the Canadian Council of Chief Executives," he wrote.

Jack Jia, publisher of Chinese News in Toronto, said he believes the Global Times article is aimed in part at ethnic Chinese in Canada.

"They want to tell Chinese Canadians, 'We don't like this guy. Don't get along with this guy,'" Mr. Jia said.

Conservative Foreign Affairs critic Peter Kent said Mr. Scheer is merely alerting Canadians to what the Official Opposition sees as the potential pitfalls of negotiating free trade with China, from turning a blind eye to Chinese acquisition of sensitive military technology to ignoring human rights abuses.

"The Chinese government has given every impression that it is successfully bullying the Liberals into getting what they want and the Liberals seem to be accepting it," the MP said.

He noted the Liberals have muted their criticism of China's human rights record ever since Beijing's new envoy to Canada, Lu Shaye, warned that his country would not allow the issue to be part of any free-trade talks.

David Mulroney, a former Canadian ambassador to China, said the Global Times has a mandate to attack overseas critics.

"This is par for the course for the Global Times, which is given fairly free rein to go after foreign governments and foreign officials who are seen to be anti-China," Mr. Mulroney said in an interview.

"China is much more comfortable attacking Canadian Conservatives, whom it considers pretty much irrevocably unfriendly than Liberals, who are seen as old friends."

Beijing has been advancing the position for some time that it is profitable for Western countries like Canada to trade with China. Mr. Mulroney said Canadians should not lose sight of what is going on inside the country.

"The biggest story out of China today is that Nobel Prize winner Liu Xiaobo appears to be dying of cancer. He has been released from official confinement but will almost certainly die a prisoner of the state, something that last happened to a Nobel laureate in Nazi Germany in the 1930s," Mr. Mulroney said. "It's getting hard to normalize relations with an increasingly abnormal China."

The Liberal government is in exploratory talks with Beijing over whether the two sides can negotiate a broad trade deal.

Mr. Scheer is accusing the Liberal government of wanting to "appease" China, pointing to controversial Chinese investments – including Hytera Communications Corp.'s acquisition of Vancouver satellite-maker Norsat International Inc.

He said the Trudeau cabinet's approval of the deal – without a comprehensive national security review – is an example of a troubling pattern in which Ottawa appears to be overly eager to win Beijing's favour.

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