Trudeau roundly mocked for political, fashion blunders during disaster trip to India

Retired_Can_Soldier

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Who cares if he wears local clothing.
He wants to rehabilitate ISIS terrorists.
He invited a convicted terrorist for a meet and greet in India.
He made a secret deal with Omar Khadr.
BTW he just appointed Khadr's lawyer to the Federal court.

Carbon Tax
Blew it at NAFTA
He thinks he can increase our economic strength with something called, "a gender neutral budget"

I don't care how he dresses when he goes on holidays (trade mission ha) to India. I do care that we picked up the dime to ship a celebrity Chef in to feed him and his brood.
 

JLM

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Who cares if he wears local clothing.
He wants to rehabilitate ISIS terrorists.
He invited a convicted terrorist for a meet and greet in India.
He made a secret deal with Omar Khadr.
BTW he just appointed Khadr's lawyer to the Federal court.

Carbon Tax
Blew it at NAFTA
He thinks he can increase our economic strength with something called, "a gender neutral budget"

I don't care how he dresses when he goes on holidays (trade mission ha) to India. I do care that we picked up the dime to ship a celebrity Chef in to feed him and his brood.

I.O.W. he has a very meagre understanding about life in general! His upbringing would be the first clue!
 

Decapoda

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That's not really his fault. Spoiled rich kids know very little of the peasantry.
I agree with you on this point, we only have ourselves to blame.

I could see through his phony, pompous, arrogant, empty-headed fascade long before I hit the ballot box in 2015. There were glaring signs he was unfit for the job, and many blunders prior to the election. The only thing that amazes me more than the fact that many Canadians couldn't see this, is the fact that there may be enough morons out there yet that would still consider giving him a vote. It says more about Canadians as a whole than it does about the clown leading us.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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I agree with you on this point, we only have ourselves to blame.

I could see through his phony, pompous, arrogant, empty-headed fascade long before I hit the ballot box in 2015. There were glaring signs he was unfit for the job, and many blunders prior to the election. The only thing that amazes me more than the fact that many Canadians couldn't see this, is the fact that there may be enough morons out there yet that would still consider giving him a vote. It says more about Canadians as a whole than it does about the clown leading us.

The Harper Hate was similar to the Mulroney hate.
 

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LOL - you're too funny.

thanks but I only cut and pasted the Indian fellows words.
That's what these things "" mean.


As far as the 5800 jobs goes I am also pretty sure that figure is inflated and when and if I find out what the real number is Ill keep using 5800.
 

Cannuck

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Yes, isn't' it interesting that everyone, regardless of political stripe seems to have found common ground in agreeing that Trudeau is a complete f***ing joke.

Not really. Liberals can laugh at themselves. Try and find a Trumpite that can laugh at Donald's idiocy

I'm beginning to wonder if the India excursion is going to turn out to be the start of Justin's "Waterloo".

More important than what Justin does is what the Conservatives do. They do so love to shoot themselves in the foot

If RCS' view was popular in 1945, we'd probably have no Japanese, Italians or Germans in Canada.
 

Murphy

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Who cares if he wears local clothing.
He wants to rehabilitate ISIS terrorists.
He invited a convicted terrorist for a meet and greet in India.
He made a secret deal with Omar Khadr.
BTW he just appointed Khadr's lawyer to the Federal court.

Carbon Tax
Blew it at NAFTA
He thinks he can increase our economic strength with something called, "a gender neutral budget"

I don't care how he dresses when he goes on holidays (trade mission ha) to India. I do care that we picked up the dime to ship a celebrity Chef in to feed him and his brood.

While Canada's big media thing right now is how Trudeau is making a fool of himself, that could trigger a change on how he is perceived by the voters here. It would be nice if voters took some or all of things on your list under consideration when voting, but they won't. The India trip may wwell be his Waterloo. (cue Stonewall Jackson)

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White_Unifier

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While Canada's big media thing right now is how Trudeau is making a fool of himself, that could trigger a change on how he is perceived by the voters here. It would be nice if voters took some or all of things on your list under consideration when voting, but they won't. The India trip may wwell be his Waterloo. (cue Stonewall Jackson)

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Unfortunately, focusing on his dress sense could give the false impression that that's his worst flaw, which really is insignificant. That's why we need to shift the channel and point out how, given his sheer incompetence, we really don't care how he dresses since we have more important matters to address like the Federal debt among other things.
 

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Unfortunately, focusing on his dress sense could give the false impression that that's his worst flaw, which really is insignificant.

His dress was the catalyst to question his judgement.

To make matters worse, when the initial commentary was offered via the Indian and international media, the trudeau family stubbornly doubled-down on their distasteful antics.

He's in damage control mode now
 

White_Unifier

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His dress was the catalyst to question his judgement.

To make matters worse, when the initial commentary was offered via the Indian and international media, the trudeau family stubbornly doubled-down on their distasteful antics.

He's in damage control mode now

Any Canadian who didn't worry about his other flaws prior to this might think this really is his most serious flaw. I think it's time Canada switched to a benevolent authoritarian state. It would be better for the lot of us.
 

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Unfortunately, focusing on his dress sense could give the false impression that that's his worst flaw, which really is insignificant. That's why we need to shift the channel and point out how, given his sheer incompetence, we really don't care how he dresses since we have more important matters to address like the Federal debt among other things.

I think not. Trudeau's gaffes are grabbing the voter's attention. It's visual, and he looks silly. While your average Canadina may forget about India by the time the election rolls around, skillful use of video footage of the trip may well sink him at the polls.

As a group, voters aren't deep thinkers. That's why attack ads work so well. People do not wish to be asked to think. If highlighting his foolishness defeats him on election day, it gets him out. How he's booted is on no concern these days.

Look at Patrick Brown in Ontario. He's out as leader of the PCs and is sitting as an independent. His policies or governing ability were not what defeated him. The media stories did. In the end, whoever crafted the hit on Brown, got what he wanted.

In politics, everything that happens, happens for a reason.

If Trudeau loses the next election because the opposition digs up footage of his India trip, and makes him look like a fool, then their job is done.
 

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I think not. Trudeau's gaffes are grabbing the voter's attention. It's visual, and he looks silly. While your average Canadina may forget about India by the time the election rolls around, skillful use of video footage of the trip may well sink him at the polls.

As a group, voters aren't deep thinkers. That's why attack ads work so well. People do not wish to be asked to think. If highlighting his foolishness defeats him on election day, it gets him out. How he's booted is on no concern these days.

Look at Patrick Brown in Ontario. He's out as leader of the PCs and is sitting as an independent. His policies or governing ability were not what defeated him. The media stories did. In the end, whoever crafted the hit on Brown, got what he wanted.

In politics, everything that happens, happens for a reason.

If Trudeau loses the next election because the opposition digs up footage of his India trip, and makes him look like a fool, then their job is done.

Philosophically speaking, you've made a solid case for a more authoritarian form of government. And to be honest, given how superficial democracy has become, are we heading towards a renewal of democracy or is it time to usher in the era of the post-democratic state? If the latter, then what would it look like? If the former, then how do we make elections more meaningful so people don't vote on nice hair and soundbites?
 

Murphy

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No. I'm merely stating that your average citizen isn't a deep thinker and will only give political issues a cursory glance.

Attack ads work because the average voter simply does not care to examine issues too deeply. It's boring, and takes too much time. It actually ties into a generation programmed to respond to short bits of info from Twitter or Instagram. Few people care to spend time assessing the politics and problems of the day beyond what Brittany or Joerg tweeted. What's social media saying? That is sad.

Ad companies, campaign managers and others realize the value of short bits of focused information that are tweeted constantly. Doing this is an effective tool to change the public thought. Recipients don't really want to think. They believe that they are getting the necessary information and act accordingly.

There are people who will actually read, but as you can see on sites like this, reading and referencing statistics is not the preferred way to make one's point. Short bits of info like memes or tweets are used more frequently today.
 

White_Unifier

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No. I'm merely stating that your average citizen isn't a deep thinker and will only give political issues a cursory glance.

Attack ads work because the average voter simply does not care to examine issues too deeply. It's boring, and takes too much time. It actually ties into a generation programmed to respond to short bits of info from Twitter or Instagram. Few people care to spend time assessing the politics and problems of the day beyond what Brittany or Joerg tweeted. What's social media saying? That is sad.

Ad companies, campaign managers and others realize the value of short bits of focused information that are tweeted constantly. Doing this is an effective tool to change the public thought. Recipients don't really want to think. They believe that they are getting the necessary information and act accordingly.

There are people who will actually read, but as you can see on sites like this, reading and referencing statistics is not the preferred way to make one's point. Short bits of info like memes or tweets are used more frequently today.

You're describing a broken political system there. How do we change that? reform the education system? Encourage politicians to stop stooping to memes and instead talk policy? Something else?
 

Cannuck

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His dress was the catalyst to question his judgement.

Absolutely



skillful use of video footage of the trip may well sink him at the polls.

Yup! See the above pic
 

Murphy

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You're describing a broken political system there. How do we change that? reform the education system? Encourage politicians to stop stooping to memes and instead talk policy? Something else?

It is broken, in that people don't really care what's happening politically. They must be made to care.

The fix has to use the current technology. People have to be encouraged to read more. Certainly more than tweets. The idea that tablets, cellphones or laptops can replace books or magazines is fine, because folks are still reading. Young or old, tablets like the Kindle Fire should be encouraged. Easy to find free or low cost ebooks are out there in large numbers.

But installing the love of reading has to start when kids are in grade school. The idea has to be constantly reinforced.

Libraries have to change. Books have to get into people's hands easier. Schools can offer incentives for reading. I used to have my students take pictures of things that had to do with whatever we were discussing. Tying the idea of using a camera worked. They were thinking about the subject, looking for photo ops.

Students have to be consulted about their favourite tech, music and interests so that educators can design programs and lesson plans, so that students will be more receptive.

Music is a great tool. I used to run videos during class that had little or nothing to do with the subject material. Mental breaks are important too.

There is a huge opportunity to tie social media and current events together beyond the sound bites.

Trudeau is in India visiting. He's dressing in Indian garb. There are lots of people taking pictures. There are stories that he looks like a fool because of this. Does he look foolish? Why? What would you do if you were PM? Was he right bringing his own eastern cuisine chef? These are great opportunities to get teens talking about politics, politeness, and even fashion.

There's a golden opportunity for positive change.
 

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Who cares if he wears local clothing.
He wants to rehabilitate ISIS terrorists.
He invited a convicted terrorist for a meet and greet in India.
He made a secret deal with Omar Khadr.
BTW he just appointed Khadr's lawyer to the Federal court.

Carbon Tax
Blew it at NAFTA
He thinks he can increase our economic strength with something called, "a gender neutral budget"

I don't care how he dresses when he goes on holidays (trade mission ha) to India. I do care that we picked up the dime to ship a celebrity Chef in to feed him and his brood.
But Trump .

No. I'm merely stating that your average citizen isn't a deep thinker and will only give political issues a cursory glance.

Attack ads work because the average voter simply does not care to examine issues too deeply. It's boring, and takes too much time. It actually ties into a generation programmed to respond to short bits of info from Twitter or Instagram. Few people care to spend time assessing the politics and problems of the day beyond what Brittany or Joerg tweeted. What's social media saying? That is sad.

Ad companies, campaign managers and others realize the value of short bits of focused information that are tweeted constantly. Doing this is an effective tool to change the public thought. Recipients don't really want to think. They believe that they are getting the necessary information and act accordingly.

There are people who will actually read, but as you can see on sites like this, reading and referencing statistics is not the preferred way to make one's point. Short bits of info like memes or tweets are used more frequently today.
5800 jobs .