Trudeau Makes Good on Ethical Energy to Germany

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“Private-sector investment in major projects in Canada is a challenge and we can’t get movement on the reality of natural gas as a transition fuel. We know gas is needed as we move toward a greener climate, but it’s not a headline for a campaign. Natural gas is the transition and will be for years.”

Natural gas exports are in demand as Europe attempts to decouple itself from Russian gas supplies and because gas is the “transition” fuel needed to wean the world off coal. LNG plants can ship gas anywhere in the world. And natural gas emits 50 per cent less carbon dioxide than coal and 30 per cent less than oil.

Canada has enormous reserves of gas but they are effectively stranded because the federal government has imposed barriers to producing, transporting and exporting it, which has greatly increased costs.
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One more good reason to divorce ontariOWE and kabek from Canada.I have always been a firm believer of letting those eastern bastards freeze in the dark.
 

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LNG is a cleaner fuel than oil or coal and Canada exporting it could be a way to reduce global emissions. It could also be replacing Russian natural gas, which is funding Putin’s invasion of Ukraine.

None of these arguments fly with Trudeau though.

He claims there is no business case and he would rather Canada reduce our meagre emissions than help get India and China off their dependence on burning coal.

So, the fact that Wilkinson didn’t show up at LNG2023 shouldn’t shock anyone, he’s just confirmed what we already suspected. The Trudeau government has already shown it’s hand on the LNG file through neglect. Proposals for LNG export facilities on both coasts have been abandoned as often due to regulatory reasons as economic ones. Attempts to get pipelines built face bigger hurdles today than ever before thanks to Trudeau’s regulatory environment.

The government began receiving invites in late 2022 according to organizers. While it’s understandable that Trudeau himself couldn’t attend, it’s not understandable that a minister from Vancouver, who is responsible for the file, could not attend.

While Wilkinson was too busy to attend, Alberta Premier Danielle Smith was able to make it, despite having spent three days in Winnipeg for the premier’s meetings. According to spies, Smith and Wilkinson were even spotted at the Calgary airport at the same time as Smith was headed to Vancouver for the conference.

Looks like Wilkinson’s Uber, or government driver, couldn’t find the Vancouver Convention Centre, that really big building down on the waterfront.
 

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LNG is a cleaner fuel than oil or coal and Canada exporting it could be a way to reduce global emissions. It could also be replacing Russian natural gas, which is funding Putin’s invasion of Ukraine.

None of these arguments fly with Trudeau though.

He claims there is no business case and he would rather Canada reduce our meagre emissions than help get India and China off their dependence on burning coal.

So, the fact that Wilkinson didn’t show up at LNG2023 shouldn’t shock anyone, he’s just confirmed what we already suspected. The Trudeau government has already shown it’s hand on the LNG file through neglect. Proposals for LNG export facilities on both coasts have been abandoned as often due to regulatory reasons as economic ones. Attempts to get pipelines built face bigger hurdles today than ever before thanks to Trudeau’s regulatory environment.

The government began receiving invites in late 2022 according to organizers. While it’s understandable that Trudeau himself couldn’t attend, it’s not understandable that a minister from Vancouver, who is responsible for the file, could not attend.

While Wilkinson was too busy to attend, Alberta Premier Danielle Smith was able to make it, despite having spent three days in Winnipeg for the premier’s meetings. According to spies, Smith and Wilkinson were even spotted at the Calgary airport at the same time as Smith was headed to Vancouver for the conference.

Looks like Wilkinson’s Uber, or government driver, couldn’t find the Vancouver Convention Centre, that really big building down on the waterfront.
Trudeau's goal of making it big in the world doesn't include Western Canada. He simply wants us to go away or maybe "freeze in the dark ourselves." He's not a nice man, very vengeful & his ego knows no bounds so until we get rid of him, he'll continue to do everything he can to ensure we do not progress at all. He's not concerned about "monetary issues" so he could care a less about how it affects everyone else, including the ROC. Destroy Alberta; destroy Canada's economy.
 
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One more good reason to divorce ontariOWE and kabek from Canada.I have always been a firm believer of letting those eastern bastards freeze in the dark.
Quebec is like 95% hydroelectric and Ontario is mostly nuclear and hydroelectric. And Alberta isn't the only source of NG. That whiny, divisive bullshit of yours is so 1980's. Also, tell me Winnipeg and Vancouver as well as parts of Calgary and Edmonton didn't vote Liberal in the last federal election. Go ahead, try me.
 

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Quebec is like 95% hydroelectric and Ontario is mostly nuclear and hydroelectric. And Alberta isn't the only source of NG. That whiny, divisive bullshit of yours is so 1980's. Also, tell me Winnipeg and Vancouver as well as parts of Calgary and Edmonton didn't vote Liberal in the last federal election. Go ahead, try me.
So who cares that snivel servants in the metropolitan areas vote Liberal , without the revenue producing hinterlands they are irrelevant .Same as Ontario .
 
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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau committed a classic political gaffe in January 2017 when he said in Peterborough, Ontario that Canada needed to “phase out” the oilsands and then, days later in Calgary, Alberta that “I misspoke. I said something the way I shouldn’t have said it.”

A political gaffe occurs when a politician accidentally tells the truth, which is what Trudeau did in Peterborough.

Flash forward to today and Environment Minister Steven Guilbeault, the former Greenpeace activist, is now talking about “the need to phase out unabated fossil fuels.”

He said the federal government is ending financial support for Canada’s fossil fuel energy sector, save for projects that are consistent with its climate change goals and reduce emissions through such technologies as carbon capture.

That has the premiers of Canada’s two leading energy-producing provinces —Alberta’s Danielle Smith and Saskatchewan’s Scott Moe — up in arms, warning about the economic consequences of Trudeau’s plan to reduce emissions from Canada’s fossil fuel energy sector by 42% compared to 2019 levels by 2030. They say that target is unrealistic, even with carbon capture.

While Guilbeault and Trudeau insist their plan is to cap emissions, not oil and gas production, Smith tweeted Monday about a report in the Globe and Mail citing a study by S&P Global that concluded in the oilsands alone, the federal government’s target would mean a cut in oil production of 1.3 million barrels a day, leading to the loss of 5,400 to 9,500 jobs.

Moe tweeted Saturday: “If it wasn’t clear before, it is now. The Trudeau government doesn’t want to just reduce emissions in our energy sector, they want to completely shut down our energy sector. This will devastate our economy and kill thousands of jobs.”

Trudeau and Guilbeault are playing Russian roulette with a major part of our economy. Canada is the world’s fourth- largest oil producer and fifth-largest producer of natural gas.

As of 2021, it accounted for 7.2% of Canada’s Gross Domestic Product or $168.2 billion annually: 442,100 direct and indirect jobs and 29% of exports, or $140 billion annually.

Given that nothing Canada does is going to have a significant impact on global emissions, much less the weather in Canada, they need to tread carefully.
 

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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau committed a classic political gaffe in January 2017 when he said in Peterborough, Ontario that Canada needed to “phase out” the oilsands and then, days later in Calgary, Alberta that “I misspoke. I said something the way I shouldn’t have said it.”

A political gaffe occurs when a politician accidentally tells the truth, which is what Trudeau did in Peterborough.

Flash forward to today and Environment Minister Steven Guilbeault, the former Greenpeace activist, is now talking about “the need to phase out unabated fossil fuels.”

He said the federal government is ending financial support for Canada’s fossil fuel energy sector, save for projects that are consistent with its climate change goals and reduce emissions through such technologies as carbon capture.

That has the premiers of Canada’s two leading energy-producing provinces —Alberta’s Danielle Smith and Saskatchewan’s Scott Moe — up in arms, warning about the economic consequences of Trudeau’s plan to reduce emissions from Canada’s fossil fuel energy sector by 42% compared to 2019 levels by 2030. They say that target is unrealistic, even with carbon capture.

While Guilbeault and Trudeau insist their plan is to cap emissions, not oil and gas production, Smith tweeted Monday about a report in the Globe and Mail citing a study by S&P Global that concluded in the oilsands alone, the federal government’s target would mean a cut in oil production of 1.3 million barrels a day, leading to the loss of 5,400 to 9,500 jobs.

Moe tweeted Saturday: “If it wasn’t clear before, it is now. The Trudeau government doesn’t want to just reduce emissions in our energy sector, they want to completely shut down our energy sector. This will devastate our economy and kill thousands of jobs.”

Trudeau and Guilbeault are playing Russian roulette with a major part of our economy. Canada is the world’s fourth- largest oil producer and fifth-largest producer of natural gas.

As of 2021, it accounted for 7.2% of Canada’s Gross Domestic Product or $168.2 billion annually: 442,100 direct and indirect jobs and 29% of exports, or $140 billion annually.

Given that nothing Canada does is going to have a significant impact on global emissions, much less the weather in Canada, they need to tread carefully.
Where will Quebec equalization come from ?
 

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Canada is poised to become one of the world’s largest exporters of liquefied natural gas, on paper at least.

The International Gas Union’s annual LNG report, released last week, says that Canada has the planet’s second-largest pipeline of LNG projects at the “pre-final investment decision” phase. One-quarter of all new liquification capacity on the drawing board is in Canada.

If all these projects were built, Canada would be exporting three times as much LNG as last year’s largest exporting country, Australia, where LNG exports were worth $83.4-billion in 2022.

Yes, Canada is poised to become one of the world’s largest exporters of LNG – but that’s old news. Canada has been poised, like a sprinter stuck in the blocks, for a very long time.

Way back in 2012, British Columbia aimed to have its first LNG plant up and running by 2015, with two others on stream by 2020. All those targets have been missed.

Canada’s LNG exports were zero then, and they’re zero today.
 
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Canada is poised to become one of the world’s largest exporters of liquefied natural gas, on paper at least.

The International Gas Union’s annual LNG report, released last week, says that Canada has the planet’s second-largest pipeline of LNG projects at the “pre-final investment decision” phase. One-quarter of all new liquification capacity on the drawing board is in Canada.

If all these projects were built, Canada would be exporting three times as much LNG as last year’s largest exporting country, Australia, where LNG exports were worth $83.4-billion in 2022.

Yes, Canada is poised to become one of the world’s largest exporters of LNG – but that’s old news. Canada has been poised, like a sprinter stuck in the blocks, for a very long time.

Way back in 2012, British Columbia aimed to have its first LNG plant up and running by 2015, with two others on stream by 2020. All those targets have been missed.

Canada’s LNG exports were zero then, and they’re zero today.
Did we go through a time warp back to 2014?
 

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Quebec is like 95% hydroelectric and Ontario is mostly nuclear and hydroelectric. And Alberta isn't the only source of NG. That whiny, divisive bullshit of yours is so 1980's. Also, tell me Winnipeg and Vancouver as well as parts of Calgary and Edmonton didn't vote Liberal in the last federal election. Go ahead, try me.
Well the West did vote "mostly" for Conservatives, so you're wrong there. We don't have a liberal in the house but B.C does have BDP so I guess you could say we've elected a few Libs. You're tight about the rest so. Location is everything!
 
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Well the West did vote "mostly" for Conservatives, so you're wrong there. We don't have a liberal in the house but B.C does have BDP so I guess you could say we've elected a few Libs. You're tight about the rest so. Location is everything!
I'm just sick of that divisive shit. Quebec is a different matter altogether but that's really got nothing to do with the whole East-West thing.
I mean think of what Taxslave is whining about. First off Alberta was pissed off about the NEP but at least the govt was very interested in Western energy. Now he's pissy because the govt doesn't want Western energy. Some people just are never happy. Fuck man, even the Chretien-Martin Liberal govt promoted the shit out of the Alberta oil sands.
Taxy needs to jump ahead 40 years and live in the present.
 
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Canada is poised to become one of the world’s largest exporters of liquefied natural gas, on paper at least.

The International Gas Union’s annual LNG report, released last week, says that Canada has the planet’s second-largest pipeline of LNG projects at the “pre-final investment decision” phase. One-quarter of all new liquification capacity on the drawing board is in Canada.

If all these projects were built, Canada would be exporting three times as much LNG as last year’s largest exporting country, Australia, where LNG exports were worth $83.4-billion in 2022.

Yes, Canada is poised to become one of the world’s largest exporters of LNG – but that’s old news. Canada has been poised, like a sprinter stuck in the blocks, for a very long time.

Way back in 2012, British Columbia aimed to have its first LNG plant up and running by 2015, with two others on stream by 2020. All those targets have been missed.

Canada’s LNG exports were zero then, and they’re zero today.
You can thank an anti west federal government for that. And a BC government that is anti jobs, unless they are socialworkers.
 

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I'm just sick of that divisive shit. Quebec is a different matter altogether but that's really got nothing to do with the whole East-West thing.
I mean think of what Taxslave is whining about. First off Alberta was pissed off about the NEP but at least the govt was very interested in Western energy. Now he's pissy because the govt doesn't want Western energy. Some people just are never happy. Fuck man, even the Chretien-Martin Liberal govt promoted the shit out of the Alberta oil sands.
Taxy needs to jump ahead 40 years and live in the present.
You need an education. TurdOWE sr. wanted to make western oil available to OntariOWE and Kwebek for cheap. This has been the liberal platform since before confederation. Steal from the West to feed the East. The Laurentian Elite is deathly afraid of Western independence. Remember the Crow freight rate? For the young people that never got any Canadian history in school, that was where rail cars coming WEST got one rate, but the same cars going EAST with manufactured goods were charged a much higher rate. Now we have turdOWE jr. imposing a ban on tanker traffic off the BC coast. The goal isn't to stop oil and gas production, just keep it at the level required to supply eastern Canada. They don't care about the economy WEST of ontariOWE.
 

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Well the West did vote "mostly" for Conservatives, so you're wrong there. We don't have a liberal in the house but B.C does have BDP so I guess you could say we've elected a few Libs. You're tight about the rest so. Location is everything!
Sorry, I didn't realize my error - should have been NDP!! sigh...
 
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In the U.K. and other Western European countries voters are pressuring politicians to abandon damaging green policies or face political defeat. Last year, the European Parliament labelled natural gas clean energy because it has the capacity to back up renewables and thereby preclude blackouts and uncompetitive energy costs that lead to de-industrialization of the sort underway in Germany. America’s green policies could also radically change, depending on the results of next year’s presidential and congressional elections. Meanwhile, China and other big polluters in the developing world are hellbent on building new coal plants, while they watch the West’s self-harm with bemusement.
 

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In the U.K. and other Western European countries voters are pressuring politicians to abandon damaging green policies or face political defeat. Last year, the European Parliament labelled natural gas clean energy because it has the capacity to back up renewables and thereby preclude blackouts and uncompetitive energy costs that lead to de-industrialization of the sort underway in Germany. America’s green policies could also radically change, depending on the results of next year’s presidential and congressional elections. Meanwhile, China and other big polluters in the developing world are hellbent on building new coal plants, while they watch the West’s self-harm with bemusement.
Germany's steel industry needs huge amounts of continuous uninterrupted electricity or the industry dies. There isn't a future without steel. Period!
 
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In the U.K. and other Western European countries voters are pressuring politicians to abandon damaging green policies or face political defeat. Last year, the European Parliament labelled natural gas clean energy because it has the capacity to back up renewables and thereby preclude blackouts and uncompetitive energy costs that lead to de-industrialization of the sort underway in Germany. America’s green policies could also radically change, depending on the results of next year’s presidential and congressional elections. Meanwhile, China and other big polluters in the developing world are hellbent on building new coal plants, while they watch the West’s self-harm with bemusement.
And we will gladly sell them the coal .
 
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