Trudeau : Get Your Booster!!

taxslave

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Sure.

There are no Canadian Charter violations.

"A prophylactic, or preventative, vaccine involves introducing antigens into a person’s body." It is in no way a detrimental term but a pure pharmaceutical term to define different types of vaccines. He missed the entire meaning. https://www.aaps.ca/blog/prophylact...lained-for-students-in-pharmaceutical-courses

COVID Vaccines are not "experimental". https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid-vaccines-idUSL1N2M70MW

"forcing it on people is a gross violation of the Nuremberg Code."? Code says "The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential." and millions upon millions took it voluntarily. Oh and and the vaccinations are not "a medical experiment" as per previous link.

His comment is misleading at best and completely false at worst.

So, his diatribe is pure anti vaxxer nonsense but hey, he is entitled to his opinion even if nonfactual.

As for his anti immigrant diatribe? Off topic so disregarded it.
Wrong.
 
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Tecumsehsbones

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Sure.

There are no Canadian Charter violations.

"A prophylactic, or preventative, vaccine involves introducing antigens into a person’s body." It is in no way a detrimental term but a pure pharmaceutical term to define different types of vaccines. He missed the entire meaning. https://www.aaps.ca/blog/prophylact...lained-for-students-in-pharmaceutical-courses

COVID Vaccines are not "experimental". https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid-vaccines-idUSL1N2M70MW

"forcing it on people is a gross violation of the Nuremberg Code."? Code says "The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential." and millions upon millions took it voluntarily. Oh and and the vaccinations are not "a medical experiment" as per previous link.

His comment is misleading at best and completely false at worst.

So, his diatribe is pure anti vaxxer nonsense but hey, he is entitled to his opinion even if nonfactual.

As for his anti immigrant diatribe? Off topic so disregarded it.
Wrong. A prophylactic involves rolling it onto your dick before you fuck her.

Or him. Or it. I don't judge.
 

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Was just in Hawaii and as of 8 Jan, you had to have 3 vaccinations to be considered fully vaccinated. If not fully vaccinated, then you had restrictions on your movements such as being unable to dine inside a restaurant.
There is nothing in the charter to prevent what Trudeau is doing regarding public health. I am very far from being a Trudeau fan but, those whining about charter rights s so far off the ball, it i snot even funny anymore. If there were charter violation, there would have been lots of legal battles by now and if there were, there have been no successful ones yet.

Wrong.

The Charter is absolutely useless, as it is hobbled by escape clauses. ('notwithstanding" and "reasonable limits")

A bill of rights that includes escape clauses for the state is not a bill of rights, it is a bill of privileges.

Rights are inherent, they do not exist at the pleasure of gov't. The state can not grant rights, they can only recognize them as such.
 

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Wrong.

The Charter is absolutely useless, as it is hobbled by escape clauses. ('notwithstanding" and "reasonable limits")

A bill of rights that includes escape clauses for the state is not a bill of rights, it is a bill of privileges.

Rights are inherent, they do not exist at the pleasure of gov't. The state can not grant rights, they can only recognize them as such.
So you agree, no charter rights were infringed. LOL

No rights are inherent. May be implied but certainly not inherent in any way and definitely not guaranteed without law.
 

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You know what I find interesting? The people (some of whom are in here) who would scream the fucking loudest about losing Canada's universal health care, want "legislation" that is completely antithetical to the concept of universality to "deal" with the unvaccinated.

These stupid twats whine about people "not following the science" and yet demand their OPINIONS in the court of public opinion, and NOT scientific basis, be the deciding factor for punitive legislation.

At no point since the invention of vaccines has 100% of the population needed to be vaccinated in order for herd immunity to take over. Even with smallpox which is a far more contagious and deadly virus than Covid. Compare a 30% death rate for smallpox to a 2% death rate for Covid that is very likely inflated due to Covid "deaths" where people who had Covid died but Covid wasn't the cause or even an underlying factor.

So basically we have fucking morons who are easily led and manipulated by emotional triggers via govt fear mongering (and their media lap dogs) who want the govt to do something about the unvaccinated just to appease themselves, even though it's the govt (and their media lap dogs) manipulating them in the first place.

Those people aren't sheep, they're goddam puppets. No, that's not true. If you're the kind of person that lets the govt manipulate you into agreeing to an abrogation of someone else's rights you're not a puppet, you're a fucking asshole that deserves neither security or freedom. If you want authoritarianism move to fucking North Korea. Quite letting the govt convince you that THEIR gross negligence and incompetence in dealing with Covid is somehow someone else's fault.
 
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Love facts, if ya have them. Conjecture, rumour and false information, no. Gimme some facts.
All I said was I was in Hawaii and to eat in a resturaunt, you need to be fully vaccinated and that means 2 vaccinations and a booster.
I also said there is nothing in the charter that prevents the government from doing what they are doing.
You Charter Rights only apply to actions taken by the Feds. ALL of the mandates (except Transport Canada travel restrictions) are Provincial.
 

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You know what I find interesting? The people (some of whom are in here) who would scream the fucking loudest about losing Canada's universal health care, want "legislation" that is completely antithetical to the concept of universality to "deal" with the unvaccinated.

These stupid twats whine about people "not following the science" and yet demand their OPINIONS in the court of public opinion, and NOT scientific basis, be the deciding factor for punitive legislation.

At no point since the invention of vaccines has 100% of the population needed to be vaccinated in order for herd immunity to take over. Even with smallpox which is a far more contagious and deadly virus than Covid. Compare a 30% death rate for smallpox to a 2% death rate for Covid that is very likely inflated due to Covid "deaths" where people who had Covid died but Covid wasn't the cause or even an underlying factor.

So basically we have fucking morons who are easily led and manipulated by emotional triggers via govt fear mongering (and their media lap dogs) who want the govt to do something about the unvaccinated just to appease themselves, even though it's the govt (and their media lap dogs) manipulating them in the first place.

Those people aren't sheep, they're goddam puppets. No, that's not true. If you're the kind of person that lets the govt manipulate you into agreeing to an abrogation of someone else's rights you're not a puppet, you're a fucking asshole that deserves neither security or freedom. If you want authoritarianism move to fucking North Korea. Quite letting the govt convince you that THEIR gross negligence and incompetence in dealing with Covid is somehow someone else's fault.
Vaccines are not cures. Never claimed to be.
Only there to prevent more serious implications and lessen illness in the individuals. As well, to prevent spread as much as possible as opposed to letting the virus run rampant.
Trying to have a reasonable discussion with some folks is just like listening to Alex Jones....they just want to hear themselves. Calling me or others names because you don't agree or don't like the facts given you is reflective of your failing credibility.
Lastly, the news is full of anti vaxxers in hospitals telling people they should have gotten the vaccine and are telling everyone to get vaccinated now.
 
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So you agree, no charter rights were infringed. LOL

No rights are inherent. May be implied but certainly not inherent in any way and definitely not guaranteed without law.
So, you believe the concept of rights exists at the pleasure of gov't............so the legal slave trade was not a violation of anyone's rights? German Jews did not have their rights violated by the German gov't between 1933 and 1945? The women of Afghanistan are not having their rights violated? Aboriginal kids in Canada snatched forcibly from their parents and shipped off to residential schools to have the savage beaten out of them had no rights violated?

Rights that exist at the pleasure of the state are not rights.

Rights are either inherent, or the entire concept is a fallacy.
 

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Vaccines are not cures. Never claimed to be.
Only there to prevent more serious implications and lessen illness in the individuals. As well, to prevent spread as much as possible as opposed to letting the virus run rampant.
Trying to have a reasonable discussion with some folks is just like listening to Alex Jones....they just want to hear themselves. Calling me or others names because you don't agree or don't like the facts given you is reflective of your failing credibility.
Lastly, the news is full of anti vaxxers in hospitals telling people they should have gotten the vaccine and are telling everyone to get vaccinated now.
You best go back a year and refresh yourself on what was being promised at the rollout of the jabs . 100% save and effective , remember that from the mouth of Fauchi ? You must have had to change your tune at least three times to keep up with the narrative .
Tell me are vaccinated people still dying from this disease ? If so is that a less serious implication ?
 

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Vaccines are not cures. Never claimed to be.
You must be making shit up in your mind because I never said they were either. Apparently you are having trouble comprehending the difference between a cure and a preventative. Let me explain to you. A cure is something that may be available when you're sick that makes you better. A preventative prevents you from getting sick in the first place. It doesn't prevent you from getting infected it just prevents you from being afflicted.
In Muskoka the other day doctors stated there were 33 Covid patients in hospital in the area, either under general hospitalization, ICU or isolation. 78% of them had been fully vaccinated. Another Ontario doctor was stripped of her licence to practice medicine in Ontario because she had the unmitigated gall to state that her observations in regards to Covid patients at her hospital weren't jiving with the fear-mongering numbers the media was reporting.
Only there to prevent more serious implications and lessen illness in the individuals. As well, to prevent spread as much as possible as opposed to letting the virus run rampant.
Ever had an MMR vaccine? If so did you get sick with any of them? Were you hospitalized as a result?
Trying to have a reasonable discussion with some folks is just like listening to Alex Jones....they just want to hear themselves. Calling me or others names because you don't agree or don't like the facts given you is reflective of your failing credibility.
Yep, because nothing on Earth ever happened and nothing was ever defined until your parents "blessed" us with your birth, right? How the fuck old are you?
Lastly, the news is full of anti vaxxers in hospitals telling people they should have gotten the vaccine and are telling everyone to get vaccinated now.
Oh the news. You mean the same industry that spent the better part of 5 years fear-mongering everyone over a phony Y2K apocalypse? The same industry that just couldn't seem to figure out there's way more than just 5 muslim majority countries? The same industry that can't understand the difference between Mexicans and MS-13? Yeah, I love political theatre too.

Face it bub, you only give a shit because you think your own ass is at risk. When you're willing to strip rights from everyday, average people because you're afraid of your own mortality, that doesn't make you moral or upstanding, it makes you a coward.

And using Alex Jones as some kind of insult? Typical leftist shit pump.
 
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You must be making shit up in your mind because I never said they were either. Apparently you are having trouble comprehending the difference between a cure and a preventative. Let me explain to you. A cure is something that may be available when you're sick that makes you better. A preventative prevents you from getting sick in the first place. It doesn't prevent you from getting infected it just prevents you from being afflicted.
In Muskoka the other day doctors stated there were 33 Covid patients in hospital in the area, either under general hospitalization, ICU or isolation. 78% of them had been fully vaccinated. Another Ontario doctor was stripped of her licence to practice medicine in Ontario because she had the unmitigated gall to state that her observations in regards to Covid patients at her hospital weren't jiving with the fear-mongering numbers the media was reporting.

Ever had an MMR vaccine? If so did you get sick with any of them? Were you hospitalized as a result?

Yep, because nothing on Earth ever happened and nothing was ever defined until your parents "blessed" us with your birth, right? How the fuck old are you?

Oh the news. You mean the same industry that spent the better part of 5 years fear-mongering everyone over a phony Y2K apocalypse? The same industry that just couldn't seem to figure out there's way more than just 5 muslim majority countries? The same industry that can't understand the difference between Mexicans and MS-13? Yeah, I love political theatre too.

Face it bub, you only give a shit because you think your own ass is at risk. When you're willing to strip rights from everyday, average people because you're afraid of your own mortality, that doesn't make you moral or upstanding, it makes you a coward.

And using Alex Jones as some kind of insult? Typical leftist shit pump.
Typical anti vaxxer. Ha Ha.
Making this about me is a useless tactic. I can, by your posts, understand what you are and what credibility you have. Just another name calling, demeaning anonymous internet warrior type poster poster. Keep up your mediocrity. LOL.
 

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You best go back a year and refresh yourself on what was being promised at the rollout of the jabs . 100% save and effective , remember that from the mouth of Fauchi ? You must have had to change your tune at least three times to keep up with the narrative .
Tell me are vaccinated people still dying from this disease ? If so is that a less serious implication ?
They are "safe and effective". The multi millions that have been vaccinated attest to that. They are not or never been claimed to be a cure.
No change in tune.
Yes, people are dying, the huge majority of those are unvaccinated. Yes, some vaccinated are also dying but not knowing their other conditions, one cannot say if covid was the sole cause or if underlying medical issues were involved.
 

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The facts say otherwise . But really why would it bother you if some right wing Neanderthal racist doesn’t get jabbed ?
 

taxslave

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Sure.

There are no Canadian Charter violations.

"A prophylactic, or preventative, vaccine involves introducing antigens into a person’s body." It is in no way a detrimental term but a pure pharmaceutical term to define different types of vaccines. He missed the entire meaning. https://www.aaps.ca/blog/prophylact...lained-for-students-in-pharmaceutical-courses

COVID Vaccines are not "experimental". https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid-vaccines-idUSL1N2M70MW

"forcing it on people is a gross violation of the Nuremberg Code."? Code says "The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential." and millions upon millions took it voluntarily. Oh and and the vaccinations are not "a medical experiment" as per previous link.

His comment is misleading at best and completely false at worst.

So, his diatribe is pure anti vaxxer nonsense but hey, he is entitled to his opinion even if nonfactual.

As for his anti immigrant diatribe? Off topic so disregarded it.
Most of what you quoted here is not factual. But if you really believe it might be true.