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People's Party ex-official who assaulted prime minister deserves jail: Crown
Shane Marshall 26, of St. Thomas, will find out next week if he’ll serve time

Author of the article:Jane Sims
Published May 01, 2023 • Last updated 1 day ago • 4 minute read
He's due to be sentenced in one week with assaulting Justin Trudeau at a campaign stop when he threw gravel at the prime minister.
He's due to be sentenced in one week with assaulting Justin Trudeau at a campaign stop when he threw gravel at the prime minister.
The People’s Party of Canada official who threw stones at the prime minister will find out next week if he’ll be thrown in jail.


“I apologize for my actions,” Shane Marshall, 26, of St. Thomas said in a brief statement in court Monday morning as Ontario Court Justice Kevin McHugh reserved his sentencing decision to May 8.


McHugh has two distinct sentencing arguments to consider: Marshall’s defence lawyer advocated for a suspended sentence that would keep Marshall out of jail while the Crown sought a short, sharp jail stint followed by probation.

Marshall is the former People’s Party of Canada riding association president in Elgin-Middlesex-London. He pleaded guilty to assault on March 7, the same day he was to go on trial for aggravated assault for the very public gravel-throwing on Sept. 6, 2021, outside the London Brewing Co-operative where Justin Trudeau made a stop during the federal election campaign.



Marshall threw the gravel at Trudeau as the prime minister was boarding his campaign bus amid a small but raucous protest. Marshall was identified as the stone-thrower through video taken at the event. Within days, he was ousted from his People’s Party campaign position and charged by London police.

An anti-hate group also linked Marshall to online neo-Nazi and white nationalist groups.

Marshall entered his plea the day after his defence lawyers lost their bid to have Trudeau testify at the trial. Superior Court Justice Ian Leach quashed their subpoena because of Trudeau’s parliamentary privilege but, in his written decision, characterized the subpoena as a ploy “for the purpose of furthering Mr. Marshall’s political objectives.”


All of that earlier legal jockeying over trial issues was absent from Monday’s short hearing, where defence lawyer Luke Reidy argued his client shouldn’t be jailed for a heat-of-the-moment response, while assistant Crown attorney Jeremy Carnegie said Marshall’s actions are “the exact type of offence we need to deter.”

Carnegie said he didn’t care what Marshall or Trudeau’s politics were but “what we’re here for is Mr. Marshall’s actions” during an election campaign.

Carnegie said that what Marshall did was “not only an assault on a candidate, but an assault on democracy” that flew in the face of peaceful debate, especially during an election.

“Violence against candidates – any candidate – hurts democracy as a whole,” Carnegie said. He suggested 30 days in jail plus 12 months of probation to send a message to Marshall and the public. The Crown also recommended a non-communication order with Trudeau, a DNA sample and a weapons prohibition for 10 years.


The only cases that came close to resembling Marshall’s actions were the well-publicized events two decades ago when then-Prime Minister Jean Chretien got a pie in the face in 2000, with the same thing happening to then-Alberta Premier Ralph Klein in 2004. An attempted pie incident was thwarted in 2009 when a woman tried to strike then-Alberta premier Ed Stelmach.

The three people charged in those cases were each sent to jail for 30 days for assault – although Chretien’s pie-thrower was given time served on appeal. Carnegie said a cream pie to humiliate an official is much different than a handful of gravel that could have injured the prime minister.



But Marshall’s defence lawyer argued his client simply acted on impulse while attending a People’s Party protest and that Marshall had learned a lesson. Jailing him would not be deter anyone else from acting similarly, he argued.


Marshall has no criminal record and had been working to be a plumber but was forced to stop an apprenticeship when his employer died. He is unemployed. He has been diagnosed with attention deficit disorder but does not take medication, Reidy said.

“He is passionate about his country, passionate about politics. Without (people like) Shane Marshall, minority opinions would not be heard,” Reidy said.

Reidy said Marshall hadn’t planned to throw the stones and should have controlled his emotions “but at that moment he reacted.” He said his client understood what he did was wrong and “he will never do it again.”

A one-year suspended sentence, with a five-year weapons prohibition, would allow Marshall to get counselling for impulse control and anger management and “help normalize Mr. Marshall into society,” Reidy said.


Carnegie noted, however, that Marshall wasn’t interested in community supervision, pointing out that in the pre-sentence report Marshall told the author: “I’d rather go to jail than have an ankle monitor.”

In his brief apology to the court, Marshall said he “never meant to cause a scene or hurt anybody.”

Outside of the courthouse, Marshall stopped to shake hands with reporters and said he had no comment. But as he walked down the sidewalk to the front of the courthouse, he yelled: “Canada first.”

Unlike Marshall’s last court appearance in March, there wasn’t any sign of anti-Trudeau protests outside the London courthouse.

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when then attorney general Allan Rock was rolling out the gun registry at a press conference before a crowd of angry Albertans in the mid-90s, I thought they all should have simultaneously lobbed a rock at him saying, tout ensemble, "REGISTER THESE!"

and whadaya know, I still think that!
 
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No jail for ex-People's Party official in assault on Justin Trudeau
Shane Marshall, a 26-year-old unemployed plumber from St. Thomas, threw gravel at the PM during the 2021 federal election

Author of the article:Jane Sims
Published May 08, 2023 • Last updated 1 day ago • 3 minute read

Shane Marshall found out that people with differing political opinions shouldn’t throw stones.


Marshall, the 26-year-old former People’s Party of Canada riding association president in Elgin-Middlesex-London, was sentenced Monday to 90 days of house arrest, followed by a year of probation, for throwing gravel at Prime Minister Justin Trudeau during a federal election campaign stop in London on Sept. 6, 2021.


“Acts of violence against our public figures are anti-democratic and need to be denounced in the strongest of terms,” Ontario Court Justice Kevin McHugh said in his decision to impose the conditional sentence that restricts Marshall to his residence.

“Mr. Marshall did not just impose on Mr. Trudeau’s health and safety, but in a very public and tangible way, he threatened the liberties and the sense of security we all hold dear in this country,” he said. “This was not an expression of political beliefs but a manifestation of mob mentality, which, if left unchecked, allows anarchy to prevail.”


Marshall was originally charged with assault with a weapon after he was identified on video as the person who threw the stones at Trudeau as the prime minister was boarding his campaign bus following a Liberal event at the London Brewing Co-operative.

Marshall was part of a small but raucous group of anti-Trudeau protesters who tried to disrupt the campaign stop.

He pleaded guilty to the lesser charge of simple assault on the day scheduled for his trial, March 7, which was one day after Superior Court Justice Ian Leach quashed a defence subpoena for Trudeau to testify.

Leach pointed to parliamentary privilege as the chief reason to toss the subpoena, but in written reasons that followed he made clear he saw it as a ploy to further Marshall’s right-wing political objectives.


McHugh said in his decision that Marshall had every right to “attend the rally and express his displeasure with (Trudeau’s) political policies and agenda,” adding that our society encourages peaceful protest and that our parliamentary system is based on public debate “and generally felt to be better with strong opposition.”

Added McHugh: “What Mr. Marshall did was to stifle discussions and discourage political volunteerism for fear of intimidation or physical violence.” And, he said, this was “a serious assault” that could have caused injuries had Trudeau been hit in the face or eye.

Marshall’s actions were different than the pre-meditated events two decades ago when Prime Minister Jean Chretien was hit in the face with a cream pie in 2000 and Alberta Premier Ralph Klein got the same pie treatment in 2004.


McHugh pointed to a more recent decision out of Kitchener, where a man was sentenced to 60 days of house arrest after he was recorded strutting around a Trudeau’s campaign bus a week before the Marshall incident, calling for the prime minister to emerge while holding with a poster depicting a hangman leading Trudeau to a noose.

McHugh pointed out Marshall is a first-time offender and had shown remorse for throwing the stones. Marshall’s pre-sentence report said Marshall is unemployed, didn’t think he was in need of counselling, had a daily marijuana habit and had been drinking before the assault on Trudeau.

McHugh agreed with the Crown’s position that the case deserved a period of incarceration. But he didn’t believe Marshall was a threat to the public and his punishment could be served under strict conditions at home, including a prohibition from using drugs or alcohol and an order to take counselling and to stay away from Trudeau.


“I have come to the conclusion that a conditional sentence of imprisonment for 90 days, followed by a period of probation of one year is the right result in this case,” he said. “The accused will be separated from society other than in the most limited of circumstances. There will certainly be no time off for good behaviour.”


During his probation period, Marshall must perform 80 hours of community service.

Outside of court, Marshall’s defence lawyer, Luke Reidy, said his client would “absolutely not” be expressing his political views the same way again.

“Shane acknowledges how serious this was and how dangerous it could have been. Somebody could have been very seriously injured. His goal now is to find a way to deal with his emotions through counselling and make sure nothing like this ever happens again,” he said.

Reidy said he didn’t know if Marshall is still a member of the PPC but that Marshall has no immediate plans to participate in the right-leaning party’s activities. “He definitely has to reconsider how he deals with his political positions.”

Rediy said his client was “quite grateful for the decision.”

Marshall had no comment when he left the London courthouse.

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Wow, that's one HARSH. . . slap on the wrist.

As George Carlin said about being a kid sent to his room. . . "My room? That's where all my STUFF is!"
 

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Dude protesting is one thing. The moment he picked up a weapon (I don’t care if it’s a gun or a shovel or a handful of gravel or a rock or a rake or what have you), and made the decision to “actually” use it as a weapon, that’s one of the line was crossed.

The act of throwing the rock, or gravel or whatever….That should be very spankable and not just a slap on the wrist. I don’t care who the target was either. In this case it was Trudeau but it could’ve been anyone and thus the target is irrelevant.

Feeling remorse after the fact, is just being human and should not be a legal defence.
 
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why demonstrate at all if there is no promise of revolution?

at some point an illegality comes into play
 

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Dude protesting is one thing. The moment he picked up a weapon (I don’t care if it’s a gun or a shovel or a handful of gravel or a rock or a rake or what have you), and made the decision to “actually” use it as a weapon, that’s one of the line was crossed.

The act of throwing the rock, or gravel or whatever….That should be very spankable and not just a slap on the wrist. I don’t care who the target was either. In this case it was Trudeau but it could’ve been anyone and thus the target is irrelevant.

Feeling remorse after the fact, is just being human and should not be a legal defence.
I'm not sure I'd call it "assault with a deadly weapon," but it's certainly assault with a weapon. That's a felony ride in U.S. states. He should do time. And not in his room.
 

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Does the illegality of protest have to turn into physical assault or assault with a weapon, etc…?
Actually, they should have nothing to do with each other. Assault is a crime whether it occurs during a protest or in a bar.

Protesting is generally legal, and a right (reasonable time, place, and manner restrictions can apply). Declaring a protest "illegal" is troubling, and should require a lot of justification.
 

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Um. . . because revolution isn't the desired goal of demonstrations?

Just a thought.
Actually, they should have nothing to do with each other. Assault is a crime whether it occurs during a protest or in a bar.

Protesting is generally legal, and a right (reasonable time, place, and manner restrictions can apply). Declaring a protest "illegal" is troubling, and should require a lot of justification.
Of course no one 'desires' civil war, which is basically what revolution boils down to.

I thought the whole point of the right to bear arms in your constitution was to allow citizenry recourse to tyrannical government, because as is believed now by so many, democracy cannot be trusted.

The writers of the constitution knew it and now so does most everyone else.
 
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Of course no one 'desires' civil war, which is basically what revolution boils down to.

I thought the whole point of the right to bear arms in your constitution was to allow citizenry recourse to tyrannical government, because as is believed now by so many, democracy cannot be trusted.

The writers of the constitution knew it and now so does most everyone else.
Popular misconception. In point of fact, the Second Amendment states quite clearly what the exact "point" of the right is. "A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the Security of a free State, the Right of the People to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

The ability to raise a militia was the point. The Framers distrusted standing armies, having observed that in Europe, they were mostly used to oppress the citizenry. So they decided not to have one. Instead they decided to have militias in the states, which could be called upon by the President in wartime to form the army. Absent such a war, the militias would be answerable to the governors of the states for chores like disaster response and exterminating pesky Induns.

This was also dependent on the fact that a garden-variety musket was both the standard civilian weapon and the army weapon.

So OF COURSE we insist on the form of words in the face of vastly changed circumstances!

No government every provides for its own violent overthrow. That's retarded.
 
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No government every provides for its own violent overthrow. That's retarded.
then why did the devil leave clues that could lead to his plan to destroy the world being foiled in Angels and Demons?

:?P

your current government is letting innumerable potential threats across your borders daily.

how retarded is that?
 
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then why did the devil leave clues that could lead to his plan to destroy the world being foiled in Angels and Demons?

:?P

your current government is letting innumerable potential threats across your borders daily.

how retarded is that?
Potential threat of what, exactly? Violent overthrow of the government? By people armed with scrub brushes and rakes?
 
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I actually did a few years in "threat analysis." The hysteria is, not to put too fine an edge on it, stupid.
which is why they promote it.
it keeps the cheques rolling in!

but you gotta admit (don't you?) that if you were islam or china or some hell-bent ill-intent terrorist organization that wanted to smuggle in a wmd, now would be the time to do it?