The miny iceage will eliminate many of them, the rest can be cought in spring traps and escorted to the border and unloaded.
Trickle of Illegal Immigrants into Canada Could Become Deluge in the Spring
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Well, that's one man's opinion, CC. His take is that Cdns believe there are too many immigrants coming. Is he saying that only his opinion is correct? A far as I'm concerned, all Canadians have an opinion. My opinions is, you'd better have a damn good reason for coming. Not liking Trump doesn't cut it. And I think that an illegal alien's opinion of Trump or their interpretation of US government policy isn't going to hold up in front of a tribunal.
I am sure that the odd person might have a legitimate claim, but IMO, going through the US to Canada tells me that they wanted to go to the US first, but changed their minds. Not good enough IMV.
I am sure that the odd person might have a legitimate claim, but IMO, going through the US to Canada tells me that they wanted to go to the US first, but changed their minds. Not good enough IMV.
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They belong in thier natural habitat. A unique evolutionary anomoly. times up for uncle sam and the beavers. Things will be different.nEXT YEAR IN jERUSELAM.
Some Canadian opinion is being molded by whacko crazy nihilists south of our border. Perhaps, we should be listening to each other, more and not the alt-right freak show that is trying to weasel it's way into Canadian politics, as well as.
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YOU GO GIRL! :smile:
Pure supposition.
Okay, now we know how you would deal with them...........but then again, thank heavens, you aren't in charge.
More pure supposition.
That'll be the day you'll see 'camp's opening in Canada - and that's a good thing.
These persons are not running loose, they are practically throwing themselves into the arms of border security and the RCMP.
And yet more...........pure supposition. Man, Murph...........you excel at this.
Containing them, eh............just like your camp idea, Murph..........ain't gonna happen.
The only problem with your suggestion is that it is against our laws and agreements as they stand now - get over it.
You know what, Eagle..............you are absolutely right. They will become an integrated part of our society if they succeed in their application process. They will take up our sports. They will find jobs or start businesses of their own and contribute to the economy. Their kids will go to school with other Canadians and they will learn from each other.
A Syrian refugee who lost his leg before coming to Canada last fall with his family has developed a passion for a Canadian sport.
Omar Al Ziab, 15, was walking home from school in 2011 when a military vehicle ran him over, crushing his right leg and leaving his other leg badly injured.
In November of last year, he received a prosthetic leg just weeks after arriving in Canada. Now just nine months later, he's making new strides – on the ice.
'How Canadian is that?' Syrian refugee learns to play sledge hockey - Manitoba - CBC News
Uh..........no, no they won't be, Eagle. In order to become Canadians they would have to go through the Canadian citizenship process and that is an entirely different matter than being processed at the border or allowed a refugee hearing.
Perhaps you would be good enough to post references for those stats, Durry - or are we supposed to trust that you didn't just pull them out of your bum.
Oh good grief, what is it with you, Murph............now it's the Mexicans? Then I suppose it will be the Mayans and then the countries of Central America will empty and millions will be stampeding across the borders in a headlong rush to Canada. Get a grip, man.
One might hope he is not an example of the vigor displayed at your Southern border, Eagle..........then again it would explain a lot, wouldn't it.
Suppositions are beliefs or conjecture. What I wrote is what I'm concerned will happen. Words like 'I believe' or 'I wonder' mean that I do not know, but I am concerned that these things may happen.
So I will ask you; do you know, beyond any doubt, that there will be no trouble? I am concerned that once they are released from their arrest at the border that some will simply run away or wind up in trouble. The trouble doesn't have to be of their doing.
Had you read another post made by gerryh, you would have discovered that Canada is responsible for their hearings and possible deportations. They will not be shipped to the US. My post about the buses at the border was made before this fact (and link) was posted. I admitted my misunderstanding on the next post (Edited to add #51). When this was made clear, I wondered, after they are released from being arrested, will they appear for their hearings? They don't all rent a motel beside the courthouse. It would be nice to get assurances that they will all be looked after until the day arrives that their hearing is held.
Again, you misunderstand the difference between saying something WILL happen, versus the concern that it MIGHT happen. Judges are concerned about this when people who are arrested stand before them in court. They decide whether someone who was arrested is a flight risk and either deny bail or set a bail amount. It is to ensure that the person returns for trial. It's not 100%, but it is part of the legal process. So I am not allowed to be concerned, but a judge is?
You stated that camps won't happen. You don't know that. As I said somewhere else in this, or the parallel thread, we are not talking about internment camps from WWII. I said processing centres. We are talking about comfortable temporary quarters. No forced labour, beatings or barbed wire.
I don't have to get over anything. You have put words in my mouth by misrepresenting what I said. My concerns are real and I am allowed to have them. I would like assurances from the feds that things will be handled in an orderly, swift fashion.
If anyone has to get a grip, it's you.
So I will ask you; do you know, beyond any doubt, that there will be no trouble? I am concerned that once they are released from their arrest at the border that some will simply run away or wind up in trouble. The trouble doesn't have to be of their doing.
Had you read another post made by gerryh, you would have discovered that Canada is responsible for their hearings and possible deportations. They will not be shipped to the US. My post about the buses at the border was made before this fact (and link) was posted. I admitted my misunderstanding on the next post (Edited to add #51). When this was made clear, I wondered, after they are released from being arrested, will they appear for their hearings? They don't all rent a motel beside the courthouse. It would be nice to get assurances that they will all be looked after until the day arrives that their hearing is held.
Again, you misunderstand the difference between saying something WILL happen, versus the concern that it MIGHT happen. Judges are concerned about this when people who are arrested stand before them in court. They decide whether someone who was arrested is a flight risk and either deny bail or set a bail amount. It is to ensure that the person returns for trial. It's not 100%, but it is part of the legal process. So I am not allowed to be concerned, but a judge is?
You stated that camps won't happen. You don't know that. As I said somewhere else in this, or the parallel thread, we are not talking about internment camps from WWII. I said processing centres. We are talking about comfortable temporary quarters. No forced labour, beatings or barbed wire.
I don't have to get over anything. You have put words in my mouth by misrepresenting what I said. My concerns are real and I am allowed to have them. I would like assurances from the feds that things will be handled in an orderly, swift fashion.
If anyone has to get a grip, it's you.
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I've known fence posts that were brighter than you, DM..........ah, sorry about that. I let my temper get the best of me there for a moment. I'm fine now........ sigh.....deep breath...
You know what, instead of railing against the system here on the forum, why don't you contact your MLA and MP and let them know how you feel about Canadian laws. At least then you'd be doing something constructive.
God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.
"Everyone needs to take a deep breath and accept there is nothing we can do to stop any asylum seekers from walking into Canada, Samsonite in hand. We aren’t building a wall, or even a fence. Our armed forces don’t even have enough drones to take a group selfie on the parade ground, let alone patrol over 8,000 kilometres of frontier. Hell, even if every single Canadian stood on the border and locked arms, from White Rock to Saint Andrews, and yelled “Red Rover! Red Rover! We call Kamal over!”, they’d still run right through us.
We have to accept that this is simply something we cannot change. We can’t stop Trump from scaring the beejeezus out of people, and we can’t stop many of those people from coming north."
Amen to that brother.
Finally, we can agree on something, Murph. Dislike of Trump doesn't make one a political refugee and is not a valid reason for acceptance into Canada.
The trouble is that we are bombarded with news from that alt-right freak show at every turn, CC.
The get a grip comment was in response to your comments about illegal Mexicans becoming a problem, Murph. Let's deal with one situation at time, shall we.
All rhetoric aside, I understand and share your concern about possible difficulties ahead if this trickle indeed becomes a flood. I also share your concern about our government not being properly prepared in the event that does happen.
No, I do not know beyond a shadow of a doubt that all will be well and that we won't see problems with some of the illegals. But, until that has happened I will give them the benefit of the doubt.
Thank you for clearing up the misunderstanding over the 'camps' your explanation here makes perfect sense and would probably be the simplest method of keeping them all in one place while their applications are being processed. I agree they should not be allowed to wander freely in our country.
I would like to hear that the Feds have come up with some concrete ideas and plans on how to deal with the continuing influx and any possible escalation.
I did.
As someone who spent almost 25 yrs in the military, I can speak from personal experience that uncontrolled movements involving hundreds or thousands of people never goes well without procedures in place. It's a mess in the ME.
History has shown what happens when regimes displace thousands of people. Europe is seeing this yet again. There are always problems when masses migrate and show up in a place where they have never been before. There are language problems. There are housing and food problems. There are problems over what the DPs (displaced persons) perceive to be legal or permissible. There are cultural problems - differences in cultural mores. Left uncontrolled, problems start and fester.
We had an expression in the military that was, 'Hope for the best. Plan for the worst.' A simple thing like a processing centre solves most of these problems. Again, we are not talking about WWII camps where detainees were kept. It is 2017 and the centres, especially in Canada, would be clean, modern facilities. This facility would house the people, be staffed by support workers and the people that conduct the hearings. Canadians have experience with this. The last big influx was the Vietnamese boat people. See below.
If there is going to be an increase in illegal aliens crossing into Canada, now would be the time to make changes before the numbers grow.
There will still be problems, but far fewer than will happen if people show up unannounced with no place to go, and no way to feed themselves. This is a poor description of what happened, but I'm tired and cannot be bothered to hunt for additional info. Canada took in over 100,000 Vietnamese 'boat people'. The early evacuations were not orderly, but in Canada at least, the Vietnamese made the transition here with less fuss. There were sponsors. The military was involved. I was in Base Borden for some of the arrivals. There was a plan in place.
“Boat-Peopleâ€�: A Refugee Crisis – Vietnamese-Canadian History – Asian Heritage Month
History has shown what happens when regimes displace thousands of people. Europe is seeing this yet again. There are always problems when masses migrate and show up in a place where they have never been before. There are language problems. There are housing and food problems. There are problems over what the DPs (displaced persons) perceive to be legal or permissible. There are cultural problems - differences in cultural mores. Left uncontrolled, problems start and fester.
We had an expression in the military that was, 'Hope for the best. Plan for the worst.' A simple thing like a processing centre solves most of these problems. Again, we are not talking about WWII camps where detainees were kept. It is 2017 and the centres, especially in Canada, would be clean, modern facilities. This facility would house the people, be staffed by support workers and the people that conduct the hearings. Canadians have experience with this. The last big influx was the Vietnamese boat people. See below.
If there is going to be an increase in illegal aliens crossing into Canada, now would be the time to make changes before the numbers grow.
There will still be problems, but far fewer than will happen if people show up unannounced with no place to go, and no way to feed themselves. This is a poor description of what happened, but I'm tired and cannot be bothered to hunt for additional info. Canada took in over 100,000 Vietnamese 'boat people'. The early evacuations were not orderly, but in Canada at least, the Vietnamese made the transition here with less fuss. There were sponsors. The military was involved. I was in Base Borden for some of the arrivals. There was a plan in place.
“Boat-Peopleâ€�: A Refugee Crisis – Vietnamese-Canadian History – Asian Heritage Month
Photo proves "refugees" from US to Canada are fake
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUdEdO9Bxa8&feature=youtu.be
related:
http://www.canadalandshow.com/media...wrong-about-alan-kurdi-and-what-it-got-right/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaoCJen7uiY&feature=youtu.be
#FakeNews: CBC claims 2-year-old
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUdEdO9Bxa8&feature=youtu.be
related:
http://www.canadalandshow.com/media...wrong-about-alan-kurdi-and-what-it-got-right/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaoCJen7uiY&feature=youtu.be
#FakeNews: CBC claims 2-year-old
state sponsored media
that is the "global" state
Its obvious trudeau has sold Canada out
we have immigration laws and procedures
use them....
or stop invading them with proxie armies of "terrorists", and bombing these people into refugees
all you pro refugee people don't even know that it is your use of their stolen raw resources, and the destruction of their infrastructure, and financial, and industrial systems is the CAUSE OF these refugees
but KEEP PREACHIN anyhow
that is the "global" state
Its obvious trudeau has sold Canada out
we have immigration laws and procedures
use them....
or stop invading them with proxie armies of "terrorists", and bombing these people into refugees
all you pro refugee people don't even know that it is your use of their stolen raw resources, and the destruction of their infrastructure, and financial, and industrial systems is the CAUSE OF these refugees
but KEEP PREACHIN anyhow
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You can only hope they will!
I just look at the EU and the US and facts don't support you.
Last week it was smiling cops assisting people at the border...
Now... not so much...
February 23, 2017
Spike in refugees fleeing America and traveling to Canada | Daily Mail Online
A woman from Yemen was seen being detained by a Royal Canadian Mounted Police officer on Wednesday while trying to gain asylum
Hehehe...Ya...immigrant have...Hehe...been a disaster for...the...heh...US...hehehe.....bwhahahaha
A woman, who says she is from Yemen, was seen crying after being told not to cross the border into Hemmingford, Quebec on Wednesday. She was arrested after entering Canada
Looks like Justin is having a change of heart.
LOLz
I doubt these people actually listen to Justin. They are just like the rest of us Canadians ... except for Flossy.
Just curious, what would happen to me if I was found 10kms inside the US attempting to escape the wrath of Justin Trudeau?