Trans Mountain ‘pipeline is going to get built’: Trudeau dismisses B.C.’s bitumen ban

Twin_Moose

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The Keystone Oil Spill No One's Talking About Will Be Nearly Impossible to Clean Up
The pipeline spilled half an Olympic-sized swimming pool's worth of particularly dirty oil into North Dakota's wetlands.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...g-about-will-be-nearly-impossible-to-clean-up
Every person in BC should read this article.

It's persons like you and the MSM anti oil promoters that write and believe this crap, it can and certainly will be cleaned up. They are referring to the fine mist that was caught in the wind which amounts to less than the squirt of gas that comes out when you over fill your vehicle.
 

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It's persons like you and the MSM anti oil promoters that write and believe this crap, it can and certainly will be cleaned up. They are referring to the fine mist that was caught in the wind which amounts to less than the squirt of gas that comes out when you over fill your vehicle.
When tar sands oil spills, the diluent evaporates pretty quickly — causing toxic, short-term air pollution — and leaves the heavy bitumen behind, which sinks.

“Once bitumen sinks to the bottom of a lake or wetland, it is much more problematic to clean up than conventional oil, which floats nicely and can be skimmed off the surface,” Diane Orihel, a professor in aquatic ecotoxicology at Queen’s University, told VICE News.
 

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When tar sands oil spills, the diluent evaporates pretty quickly — causing toxic, short-term air pollution — and leaves the heavy bitumen behind, which sinks.

“Once bitumen sinks to the bottom of a lake or wetland, it is much more problematic to clean up than conventional oil, which floats nicely and can be skimmed off the surface,” Diane Orihel, a professor in aquatic ecotoxicology at Queen’s University, told VICE News.


The bed of the Fraser river is painted with toxic sludge 5-6 feet deep from all the millions of gallons of raw sewage that is dumped in it each and every day
 

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The bed of the Fraser river is painted with toxic sludge 5-6 feet deep from all the millions of gallons of raw sewage that is dumped in it each and every day
Pulp and paper mills located at Prince George and Quesnel, adjacent to the Fraser River, are sources of contamination; although contamination downstream of these mills still exists, changes to bleaching processes in the 1990s dramatically improved water quality. Other sources of contamination originate as urban and agricultural runoff. Additionally, industrial mineral, coal, and metal mining operations exist in the Fraser River basin, all of which are potential sources of pollution.On 4 August 2014, a breach of the tailings pond dam at the Mount Polley mine sent 8 million m3 of contaminants into Hazeltine Creek, Polley Lake and Quesnel Lake in the Fraser River basin.The waste water contained cobalt, nickel, antimony, arsenic, lead, selenium, mercury and cadmium. The disaster had a substantial impact on the local aquatic environment and may have long-term impacts on salmon spawning in the area
 

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Is that from what the news says is the XL but it's really Keystone?

The latest Keystone leak you can see the stained ground, didn't look to be a tough cleanup, they sent in a coupon of the pipe for tests for the reason of the leak. If a coupon was sent in I'm thinking a defect was found in the pipe there maybe some integrity digs depending on the results of the testing.
 

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The Keystone Oil Spill No One's Talking About Will Be Nearly Impossible to Clean Up
The pipeline spilled half an Olympic-sized swimming pool's worth of particularly dirty oil into North Dakota's wetlands.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...g-about-will-be-nearly-impossible-to-clean-up
Every person in BC should read this article.


more from the article for those still considering an expansion of this through BC

The spill realized some of the biggest fears of the pipeline project, which was approved in 2006 — despite opposition from farmers, indigenous groups, and environmental organizations — and started pumping oil back in 2010. The Keystone Pipeline carries oily sludge from the enormous tar sands fields in Alberta, Canada, across more than 2,000 miles of pristine wetlands in the Dakotas, through Nebraska to Patoka, Illinoi

The company, TC Energy, formerly TransCanada, projected that the pipeline would spill just 11 times over the course of 50 years, or about once every seven years. Since it started pumping, it’s already spilled large amounts of oil four times.
 

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Tell that to the Fed gvt.


Considering that the oceans are Fed jurisdiction, you would think that they would 'protect' the waters and marine life in the same way that they put in a tanker ban off the NW coast of BC to protect the environment and aquatic life.


Come to think of it, you'd wonder why that same tanker ban isn't in place in the St Lawrence Seaway or the East coast.


Food for thought, huh?
Actually the feds did create a marine protected area in the so called Salish Sea .
 

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The bed of the Fraser river is painted with toxic sludge 5-6 feet deep from all the millions of gallons of raw sewage that is dumped in it each and every day
No not really , the river is constantly dredged for marine traffic and flow control , many of the marshes and water courses in the delta are being restored and shoreline restoration is happening throughout the lower river . The river is healthier now then fifty years ago .
 

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No not really , the river is constantly dredged for marine traffic and flow control , many of the marshes and water courses in the delta are being restored and shoreline restoration is happening throughout the lower river . The river is healthier now then fifty years ago .
than
 

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more from the article for those still considering an expansion of this through BC

The spill realized some of the biggest fears of the pipeline project, which was approved in 2006 — despite opposition from farmers, indigenous groups, and environmental organizations — and started pumping oil back in 2010. The Keystone Pipeline carries oily sludge from the enormous tar sands fields in Alberta, Canada, across more than 2,000 miles of pristine wetlands in the Dakotas, through Nebraska to Patoka, Illinoi

The company, TC Energy, formerly TransCanada, projected that the pipeline would spill just 11 times over the course of 50 years, or about once every seven years. Since it started pumping, it’s already spilled large amounts of oil four times.
Yes we would rather have rolling pipelines through our major salmon bearing rivers .
 

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Pulp and paper mills located at Prince George and Quesnel, adjacent to the Fraser River, are sources of contamination; although contamination downstream of these mills still exists, changes to bleaching processes in the 1990s dramatically improved water quality. Other sources of contamination originate as urban and agricultural runoff. Additionally, industrial mineral, coal, and metal mining operations exist in the Fraser River basin, all of which are potential sources of pollution.On 4 August 2014, a breach of the tailings pond dam at the Mount Polley mine sent 8 million m3 of contaminants into Hazeltine Creek, Polley Lake and Quesnel Lake in the Fraser River basin.The waste water contained cobalt, nickel, antimony, arsenic, lead, selenium, mercury and cadmium. The disaster had a substantial impact on the local aquatic environment and may have long-term impacts on salmon spawning in the area


BC is just an environmental disaster, it's part of their rich tradition alongside clear cutting vast swaths of trees
 

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more from the article for those still considering an expansion of this through BC
The spill realized some of the biggest fears of the pipeline project, which was approved in 2006 — despite opposition from farmers, indigenous groups, and environmental organizations — and started pumping oil back in 2010. The Keystone Pipeline carries oily sludge from the enormous tar sands fields in Alberta, Canada, across more than 2,000 miles of pristine wetlands in the Dakotas, through Nebraska to Patoka, Illinoi
The company, TC Energy, formerly TransCanada, projected that the pipeline would spill just 11 times over the course of 50 years, or about once every seven years. Since it started pumping, it’s already spilled large amounts of oil four times.

So what does that mean to you? To me it looks like it was an acceptable worst case scenario by the licensing bodies to me
 

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not to mention the whale poop




WELL GOSH hemerHOID................................


you are organic and thus biodegradable.......................................


can we BURY YOU in your own heap of LIE-beral crap...................................


and let you decompose??????????????????????

 

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BC is just an environmental disaster, it's part of their rich tradition alongside clear cutting vast swaths of trees
Come now captain , I agree with you most of the time , but B.C. even under the Social Credit and Liberals have been cleaning up our act . It isn’t even the industrial wasteland that Cliffy and Anne Ember think they live in .
 

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Come now captain , I agree with you most of the time , but B.C. even under the Social Credit and Liberals have been cleaning up our act . It isn’t even the industrial wasteland that Cliffy and Anne Ember think they live in .


We're actually in pretty good shape as a province, probably the best in Canada anyway! We've got a lot to be thankful for.