My sister has had a couple of them over a period of many years (she drives up ski hills a lot) and wouldn't own anything else.
Toyota owners affected by this 2010 recall.
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My sister has had a couple of them over a period of many years (she drives up ski hills a lot) and wouldn't own anything else.
Many thanks to all,
TenPenni wise advise,,
"How does the accelerator feel when you use it - is it rough or sticky, or does it move smoothly?"
I actually gave the car to my boy as a present moving out of the house, he did great in University, graduated with top marks on the way to becoming a CA Certified accountant.
The kid drives long distances to see clients, which prompted me to install 4 Michelin snows in the tune of $1000 to make the car safer, lucky the gas pedal is smooth at 45000 miles. The shutting off the gas supply when stepping on the brake is a proven method, I personally want to see all car manufacturers apply that same technical Enovation on all motor vehicles.
TenPenni wise advise,,
"How does the accelerator feel when you use it - is it rough or sticky, or does it move smoothly?"
I actually gave the car to my boy as a present moving out of the house, he did great in University, graduated with top marks on the way to becoming a CA Certified accountant.
The kid drives long distances to see clients, which prompted me to install 4 Michelin snows in the tune of $1000 to make the car safer, lucky the gas pedal is smooth at 45000 miles. The shutting off the gas supply when stepping on the brake is a proven method, I personally want to see all car manufacturers apply that same technical Enovation on all motor vehicles.
Well, for whatever this might be worth in your decision-making...
I had a 1993 Camry for years, since 1995 in fact (I rarely buy new cars, they lose a large fraction of their value as soon as you drive them off the dealer's lot, I think I've bought two in 40 years), and after 16 years it was showing its age a bit. It was running fine, nothing really wrong with it, and it had been very carefully maintained (I'm a bit obsessive about that), but no vehicle's going to be in showroom condition after 16 years in heavy use. Especially when you have teenage drivers. So last December my wife and I decided it was time to replace it while it was still worth something (about $4k), not coincidentally at the slowest time of year for car sales when all the local dealers have their big indoor sales in the buildings usually devoted to agricultural exhibitions. We looked carefully at pretty much everything from Toyota and Honda and Nissan and Subaru and Ford (GM and Chrysler I won't touch and European vendors like BMW are way overpriced), studied Consumer Reports and Phil Edmonston's Lemon Aid books, and ended up buying a lightly used RAV4. I don't really know what you mean by "The Outback is a better highway vehicle," the RAV4 seemed to me to offer better visibility to the driver, especially to the rear, and felt more solid to me than the Outback, which struck me as being a little light, low, and flimsy by comparison. We've had the RAV4 for only three weeks, but so far my impression of it is entirely consistent with the test drive, that it's an altogether excellent machine, smooth, quiet, comfortable, and powerful. . And the 4WD was great to have after the big honking blizzard we had here last week. I got what I thought was hopelessly stuck twice, but I clicked on the 4WD lock and powered out of it easily, even without winter tires on it.
I also buy 1 or 2 year old used cars, and the first thing I put on them is winter tires all round once November hits.
I thought about a RAV4, because we've had great luck with our Toyotas, but I found my 05 Outback for sale only 10 months old, so I pounced on it, and I've been happy with it so far. We tend to keep our cars for 7 years or more, but my wife ditched her 05 Corolla for the used Forester about 1.5 years ago, due to the driveway issue.
I thought about a RAV4, because we've had great luck with our Toyotas, but I found my 05 Outback for sale only 10 months old, so I pounced on it, and I've been happy with it so far. We tend to keep our cars for 7 years or more, but my wife ditched her 05 Corolla for the used Forester about 1.5 years ago, due to the driveway issue.
I've been a car nut for as long as I can remember. Reason doesn't alway play a big part. When I was a lot younger I drove a succession of British sports cars (4 or 5 of them) which indicates a strong Massochistic bent. Those cars were a tinkerer's dream, or nightmare, depending on your point of view.
Once I got married I thought I had to buy a more conservative vehicle. The car I selected was a Plymouth Valient with the "Slant six" engine. That car started to fall apart almost the day I bought it. I hated it. By this time Japanese cars were developing a fairly respectable reputation and I bought a Datsun 510. What a wonderful car. The car was reliable, economical, and fun to drive. When I say "fun to drive" I meant it had independant suspension all around it was rear wheel drive, and very precise steering. I had a reliable family car that handled like an MG.
Getting back to the RAV4 and the Outback. I thought the Outback was a better handling car than the Toyota. It seemed more solid on the road but my reasoning was totally subjective. It simply felt more comfortable at highway speeds. The RAV4, felt a bit like an SUV.(no kidding) It wasn't trucklike, but not as supple as the Outback. This is not meant to detract from either vehicle, merely personal preference.
Once I got married I thought I had to buy a more conservative vehicle. The car I selected was a Plymouth Valient with the "Slant six" engine. That car started to fall apart almost the day I bought it. I hated it. By this time Japanese cars were developing a fairly respectable reputation and I bought a Datsun 510. What a wonderful car. The car was reliable, economical, and fun to drive. When I say "fun to drive" I meant it had independant suspension all around it was rear wheel drive, and very precise steering. I had a reliable family car that handled like an MG.
Getting back to the RAV4 and the Outback. I thought the Outback was a better handling car than the Toyota. It seemed more solid on the road but my reasoning was totally subjective. It simply felt more comfortable at highway speeds. The RAV4, felt a bit like an SUV.(no kidding) It wasn't trucklike, but not as supple as the Outback. This is not meant to detract from either vehicle, merely personal preference.
It took a while, but Toyota's problems finally surfaced in Japan on the TV news last night. They apparently had a 15 minute segment on one of the networks over there about it...very bad publicity for Toyota on "home turf." Until just yesterday, it apparently was a non-issue.
Being in the car business for 34 years and having the blessing to have my own car lot for 15 years with 100 car inventory was fun.
Now retired, I look at the car issues many people are faced with and can’t help, reflecting back in the years and remember how many people would not do the research and would end up buying the wrong car, mechanically, monetarily, and safety.
I was always looking for value on the good old green paper back (the mighty dollar) and always found it on Japanese cars. Toyotas, Hondas, Nissans, and Mazda.
Sticking with Toyota since 1985 was a wise choice, also found the 81 to 88 year 4dr sedan 4 cyl GL Volvos stick shift or automatic to be a good solid ride, with good cage integrity in the event of a bad crash. Toyota like the other Japanese automakers, going back to 1970 to 1985-86 made good reliable, economical cars but they had a rust problem.
From late 1980 to 1990 Toyota started perfecting the rust problems.
The Camry was a perfect family car that was a 4 cyl 4 dr compact big inside economical and manageable out side for easy driving, parking, no hidden spots , you can see all corners of the car with out taking to long to make lane changes.
I still feel good about my son’s 2007 Camry, although I am on record on this thread in saying, “I don’t feel good about the car any more.” I steel do feel good making this choice, after realising that the gas pedal on my car feel easy during application.
I n my case I trade cars every 5 years by then the depreciation it is what it is, and buying a new car only them it makes sense.
I am about to up grade my wife’s car 2003 LE with leather Corolla and I will stay with Toyota. Her car we got it used with 60000 klm in 2007, since then oil, transmission oil change, brakes, and off Corse 4 brand new Michelins is the only expense. She loves the car…
89 91 years Toyota Camry 4 cylinder was an excellent car , I never had returns or issues with this model, an economical strong little workhorse sedan.
Now retired, I look at the car issues many people are faced with and can’t help, reflecting back in the years and remember how many people would not do the research and would end up buying the wrong car, mechanically, monetarily, and safety.
I was always looking for value on the good old green paper back (the mighty dollar) and always found it on Japanese cars. Toyotas, Hondas, Nissans, and Mazda.
Sticking with Toyota since 1985 was a wise choice, also found the 81 to 88 year 4dr sedan 4 cyl GL Volvos stick shift or automatic to be a good solid ride, with good cage integrity in the event of a bad crash. Toyota like the other Japanese automakers, going back to 1970 to 1985-86 made good reliable, economical cars but they had a rust problem.
From late 1980 to 1990 Toyota started perfecting the rust problems.
The Camry was a perfect family car that was a 4 cyl 4 dr compact big inside economical and manageable out side for easy driving, parking, no hidden spots , you can see all corners of the car with out taking to long to make lane changes.
I still feel good about my son’s 2007 Camry, although I am on record on this thread in saying, “I don’t feel good about the car any more.” I steel do feel good making this choice, after realising that the gas pedal on my car feel easy during application.
I n my case I trade cars every 5 years by then the depreciation it is what it is, and buying a new car only them it makes sense.
I am about to up grade my wife’s car 2003 LE with leather Corolla and I will stay with Toyota. Her car we got it used with 60000 klm in 2007, since then oil, transmission oil change, brakes, and off Corse 4 brand new Michelins is the only expense. She loves the car…
89 91 years Toyota Camry 4 cylinder was an excellent car , I never had returns or issues with this model, an economical strong little workhorse sedan.
Shyte happens. A while back Dodge sent us a letter saying my ball joints on my Dakota were crap after 7 years of driving it and never having any steering problems. But, I thought it would be best to have Dodge replace them for free anyway.
I guess with this latest little bomb shell today, G.M. and Chrysler are in a state of exstacy. Hope it pans out for them and we can get our money back.
Toyota has such an excellent reputation for proven quality, that this will be nothing more than a very slight bump on the road.
Certainly, it does not change my mind about Toyota. My wife's 2000 Corolla (45,000+ kms) and my 2002 Sienna (336,000+ kms) are the best - repair free, except for normal tear and wear - vehicles we ever owned.
Certainly, it does not change my mind about Toyota. My wife's 2000 Corolla (45,000+ kms) and my 2002 Sienna (336,000+ kms) are the best - repair free, except for normal tear and wear - vehicles we ever owned.
Hey Soc. No I have no intention of buying a Toyota. I must admit I made that mistake in the '70s and the damn thing only lasted 2 years. I'll stick with Chevy.
Toyots'a quality has been slipping for the last three or four years, on e reason is Hyundai lured a bunch of qulity control guys from them with breifcases full of Toyotas sercrets. I always get the Lemon Aid Guide for kicks and giggles, they tell you everything about cars and for the most part I buy vehicles they recomend....the one exception is my wifes Prius....wasn't my idea.:roll:
I find it interesting that Toyota has been singled out for this recall. The big three in North America have had recalls far larger than Toyota, some 2-3 recalls a year, never got the publicity that this recall is receiving. Is this a case where the media are being paid to (under the table or course) to promote the frenzy and knock Toyota down, or is it a case where the media do not have anything else of importance to tell the world, so they are making it a big thing. I know that Ford killed more people with their Tire Gate, on the SUV’s, than Toyota will ever have with the gas pedal linkage problem. The information that I remember about Ford and their Tire Gate was that Ford “Had” to have a good ride, so they put in their operators manual that the tires should only take about 24 pounds of air. The Firestone (I believe it was Firestone tires) manufacturer said they should be like 35 pounds. The tires heated up, collapsed and they had roll-overs like mad.
What about Ford and their burning of vehicles, not near the hype and BS there is today. Phone the press all over north America and tell them to chase cars and trucks instead.
What about Ford and their burning of vehicles, not near the hype and BS there is today. Phone the press all over north America and tell them to chase cars and trucks instead.
It is all my fault, I go out and buy a 2010 Toyota cause the biggest recall in automotive history. Should have stayed with GM or Ford. Cliffy, you talked me into it a year ago.
My wife and I are currently pondering over which car to buy to replace an aging Toyota. I have absolutely no qualms about buying another Toyota. If there is a problem, I'm sure Toyota will fix it. We're not replacing the car because it doesn't run. It runs fine. We are replacing the car because we want the features the new car has. It has come to a choice between the Subaru Outback and the Toyota RAV4. My wife is pushing for the RAV4. My preference has been for the Subaru but I would take either.
Last March I bought a 2005 Pontiac Vibe with 30000 km on it. An excellent little car- 4 cylinder engine, easy on gas, since I bought it I serviced it once and that's all I've had to do. I also know 2 other people with Vibes and they are very happy with theirs. Highly recommend you check one out.
With the auto bailouts in Canada and the States, it is not surprising that those wishing to resurrect the primacy of the Big Three are trumpeting Toyota's problems. It seems that the consumer is being manipulated ...