Toxic wallboard from China

[taxslave]

Where did the idea come from that the houses must come down? We regularly remove both mould and asbestos contaminated drywall from buildings. The frame work and all mechanical is still good. Also does any one know if this is only a problem before painting or does it off gas continously like ureformaldihide insulation did? The asbestos thing is a bit of a joke as the only asbestos is in some drywall tape that is more than 20 years old. For this all the affected drywall must be bagged, boxed and taken to the correct landfill where they extract a hefty bribe to dig a hole in the old fill and cover it up. At least in theory. We do this with insurance jobs but I know that most home renovators and probably lots of contractors either have no clue it is in there or don't care and take it all to the drywall recycling depot where the tipping fees are much lower.

 

[lone wolf]

Toronto would face similar atmospheric pressures, in terms of humidity as Florida, isn't that the case? Is there anyone in the Toronto area affected and talking? Out here they are. Being that they said a big shipment made it into Canada and some landed in Ontario?

The big differences are: the warm side of the wall varies between winter and summer and walls in Toronto are better insulated.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

The big differences are: the warm side of the wall varies between winter and summer and walls in Toronto are better insulated.

I see low profile from China on the subject.

 

[petros]

Just paint over it with some good ole CIL with lead in it for that nice bright white. Once painted the toxins are encapsulated and no threat.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

Just paint over it with some good ole CIL with lead in it for that nice bright white. Once painted the toxins are encapsulated and no threat.

Unfortunately that is one that will hurt people with homes, banks holding on foreclosed inventory, and the nightmare is getting bigger by the minute. That’s what got them there in the first place, led to hide the toxins.

 

[VanIsle]

Just paint over it with some good ole CIL with lead in it for that nice bright white. Once painted the toxins are encapsulated and no threat.

It appears you can't. The article states: Like in a meth house, the emissions permeate everything, the 2X4's, the trusses, the fabric in your furniture.
All houses affected have shown a common symptom: blackened scorched wiring behind switchplates and wall plugs. Human symptoms: Severe allergies, nosebleeds, headaches, upper-respiratory problems. These may ease if the homeowners leave the house for an extended period, then return once they're back home again.
Home/Condo symptoms: Faint to strong smell of rotten eggs, especially when all windows and doors are closed and water is not running. Corrosion of heating or air-conditioning coils. Tarnish on silver jewelery or flatware.
What to do: Call researchers at America Watchdog's Chinese-Drywall Complaint's Centre, 1-866-714-6466 or visit http://home-ownersconsumercenter.com/
If you cannot get anywhere with that address - try it without the hyphen between home-owners. That may be just a line change in the newspaper.

 

[CanadianLove]

I think the problem is the process of making this wall board. There seems to be way too many situations where they are blaming 'meth houses' for the contamination. Likely most of the 'meth houses' just happen to be built out of this wall board. If a meth lab was indeed responsible in some cases the occupants would be dead from that kind of contamination. the reason the police suit up for the clean up is they don't know what is there and have to be ready for anything. In stances of explosion are caused by one portion of the recipe that requires a steady hand and good concentration. One screw up and boom. There are really no explosive fumes as it is all contained or the cook would die long before an explosion could happen. You have to think about all the meth being made w/very few explosions happening in recent years.

If both homes were built with good wall board, I think a home used as a grow-op would be more dangerous for your health due to the mold and mildew.

And yes they do make wallboard with the same process in Canada and the USA. They just likely clean it better before pressing it into a hard board. I believe they still pile the raw material on the dock at Port Colborne, Ontario, at the dock of the old INCO nickle smelter, above lock #8. They bring it in by barge and truck it to a plant in Ontario somewhere.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

This is a huge potential problem, picture this, if you own a commercial property and you have tenants whose business evolves around petroleum products like car repair shops and so on, if you decide to sell it, you would-be asked by the bank who is financing the sale to provide a report on environmental contamination, The cost for that starts @ $50.000 if there is any cleaning to be done in order to dim the property safe for human use. Now in the event where one is selling his or her home, seeing this potential monster contaminated wallboard and particularly this staff is so toxic only three sheets of this contaminated wall board is enough to contaminate the entire house So…………………, the bank again who is financing the sale of the contaminated wallboard house demands that it either gets cleaned up which means leveling the house down and build a clean environmentally friend house with out the threat of illness that can affect life as well the credit rating of the new home buyers,
while the current selling owner may find that all their equity is suddenly erased if faced with the prospect of building a new home.

 

[lone wolf]

You still have managed neither name nor link.

You can run into the same problem with a building affected with mould or wired with aluminum, invaded by radon gas or built upon a toxic site (Eldorado Nuclear or Love Canal spring to mind) It was happening when they condemned urea formaldehyde too. What chemicals can they rub into Gypsum that isn't going to raise it's price ... unless it's the glue - a same type as used on old drywall and original Gyproc.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

You still have managed neither name nor link.

You can run into the same problem with a building affected with mould or wired with aluminum, invaded by radon gas or built upon a toxic site (Eldorado Nuclear or Love Canal spring to mind) It was happening when they condemned urea formaldehyde too. What chemicals can they rub into Gypsum that isn't going to raise it's price ... unless it's the glue - a same type as used on old drywall and original Gyproc.

Good day LW, as for the link it is odd that it was on the Province paper front page and I have not seen anything to link too on the net. Weird.

 

[Trex]

Perhaps we should all just agree that China in its entirety is toxic.

Probably save time.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

Perhaps we should all just agree that China in its entirety is toxic.

Probably save time.

I think Commy mentality sucks, bad for industry bad for the people, and hypocritical to boot. One thing must be said in fairness to the Chinese people, is for every level of pollution China has created that is related to industrial waist the rest of the world on this planet is to be blamed also for the rampant abuse of consumable products, which can only be produced by a Communist country being that wages are not unionized there by exploiting the Chinese workers in order to beat all world labor rates.

 

[lone wolf]

Several lawsuits, including one by a group of Florida homeowners, have been filed against German drywall maker Knauf Gips KG, its Chinese plasterboard units and several U.S. homebuilders.

Company name....

Toxic wallboard turning up in Canada

 

[Socrates the Greek]

Good one LW thank you good work.