Toronto Mayor Rob Ford in 'crack cocaine' video scandal

[Locutus]

Ahhhhh...now it's the globe's turn at some spicy headlines...


via bcf:


Globe & Mail Ford Family "Blockbuster Drug Expose" Reveals Fords Liked Pot, Dealt Some Hash And That's Pretty Much It


Globe investigation: The Ford family’s history with drug dealing

This investigative report reveals that:

• Doug Ford, Toronto Mayor Rob Ford’s brother, sold hashish for several years in the 1980s.
• Another brother, Randy, was also involved in the drug trade and was once charged in relation to a drug-related kidnapping.
• Their sister, Kathy, has been the victim of drug-related gun violence.

That's it, the whole shebang. written by some guy called "anonymous source"


Globe investigation: The Ford family’s history with drug dealing - The Globe and Mail

Editor’s letter: Why we published the Ford family story - The Globe and Mail


How reliable is our information?
We located and interviewed 10 people who claimed to have contact with Doug Ford over illicit drugs. Each individual said they were afraid to attach their name to the story, citing the Ford family’s power in Toronto.

Nicely related:

Christie Blatchford: Canadian journalists have moved the goalposts in pursuit of alleged Rob Ford crack scandal

...“The Star is acting a bit like the person who buys ‘an authentic Rolex’ from some guy who sells it out of the trunk of his car for $500....


Canadian journalists have moved the goalposts in pursuit of alleged Rob Ford crack scandal | Full Comment | National Post

 

[JLM]

Ahhhhh...now it's the globe's turn at some spicy headlines...


via bcf:


Globe & Mail Ford Family "Blockbuster Drug Expose" Reveals Fords Liked Pot, Dealt Some Hash And That's Pretty Much It


Globe investigation: The Ford family’s history with drug dealing

This investigative report reveals that:

• Doug Ford, Toronto Mayor Rob Ford’s brother, sold hashish for several years in the 1980s.
• Another brother, Randy, was also involved in the drug trade and was once charged in relation to a drug-related kidnapping.
• Their sister, Kathy, has been the victim of drug-related gun violence.

That's it, the whole shebang. written by some guy called "anonymous source"


Globe investigation: The Ford family’s history with drug dealing - The Globe and Mail

Editor’s letter: Why we published the Ford family story - The Globe and Mail


How reliable is our information?
We located and interviewed 10 people who claimed to have contact with Doug Ford over illicit drugs. Each individual said they were afraid to attach their name to the story, citing the Ford family’s power in Toronto.

Nicely related:

Christie Blatchford: Canadian journalists have moved the goalposts in pursuit of alleged Rob Ford crack scandal

...“The Star is acting a bit like the person who buys ‘an authentic Rolex’ from some guy who sells it out of the trunk of his car for $500....


Canadian journalists have moved the goalposts in pursuit of alleged Rob Ford crack scandal | Full Comment | National Post

As distasteful as I find Rob Ford, I think it's extreme in the least to bring his brother's "short comings" into the discussion as it has absolutely nothing to do with Rob's guilt or innocence, and quite frankly I get disgusted with people who try to make these "connections". There's an old saying "Every family has a black sheep".

 

[Tonington]

There's an old saying "Every family has a black sheep".

And it appears to be Kathy. Maybe?

 

[Sal]

As distasteful as I find Rob Ford, I think it's extreme in the least to bring his brother's "short comings" into the discussion as it has absolutely nothing to do with Rob's guilt or innocence, and quite frankly I get disgusted with people who try to make these "connections". There's an old saying "Every family has a black sheep".

there will always be dirt on everyone...best way to head off scandal is to reveal before they release...that's how Winfrey always did it, she always beats the press to release..that's what is meant by transparency...I wish politicians would realize they don't have to be perfect, they just have to be truthful. Most people will forgive anything as long as a human being admits to his failings...it's the covering up that hurts them.

 

[JLM]

there will always be dirt on everyone...best way to head off scandal is to reveal before they release...that's how Winfrey always did it, she always beats the press to release..that's what is meant by transparency...I wish politicians would realize they don't have to be perfect, they just have to be truthful. Most people will forgive anything as long as a human being admits to his failings...it's the covering up that hurts them.

Yep, up to a point! I'm not sure how a self professed pedophile would fare. -

 

[Sal]

Yep, up to a point! I'm not sure how a self professed pedophile would fare. -

no not up to a point...if he came clean, turned himself in and apologized it would go over far better than moving in down the street and molesting the block kiddies

transparency does best

 

[JLM]

no not up to a point...if he came clean, turned himself in and apologized it would go over far better than moving in down the street and molesting the block kiddies

transparency does best

I think marginally at best. I know speaking for myself, I'm just not overly "philosophical" as far as pedophiles are concerned.

 

[Walter]

How reliable is our information?
We located and interviewed 10 people who claimed to have contact with Doug Ford over illicit drugs. Each individual said they were afraid to attach their name to the story, citing the Ford family’s power in Toronto.

I talked with 10 people and they claim that this is all BS.

 

[JLM]

I talked with 10 people and they claim that this is all BS.

Walter, there is not a thing in the world wrong with being a friend to a seemingly wayward person, but it's helpful to no one to try to dismiss all the allegations. Whether the allegations are true of false, the allegations exist and denying them isn't going to solve a thing. It's just too bad a lot of lowlifes are behind them. Not that that in itself makes them false.

 

[Sal]

I think marginally at best. I know speaking for myself, I'm just not overly "philosophical" as far as pedophiles are concerned.

well you reached for an extreme didn't you, my point is regarding transparency and the media and the public... transparency is always best even in the extreme if that's where you want to go...

 

[gerryh]

Walter, there is not a thing in the world wrong with being a friend to a seemingly wayward person, but it's helpful to no one to try to dismiss all the allegations. Whether the allegations are true of false, the allegations exist and denying them isn't going to solve a thing. It's just too bad a lot of lowlifes are behind them. Not that that in itself makes them false.

So, let me get this straight...... 10 anonymous people tell some reporter that the Ford's have been involved in drugs in the past and you believe them.... but 10 anonymous people tell Walter that the whole drug story is bullshyte and you don't believe them...... why? you clairvoyant?

 

[JLM]

So, let me get this straight...... 10 anonymous people tell some reporter that the Ford's have been involved in drugs in the past and you believe them.... but 10 anonymous people tell Walter that the whole drug story is bullshyte and you don't believe them...... why? you clairvoyant?

Hang on, slow down Gerry. Believing them (which I don't necessarily) is not the issue. I believe the allegations are real, while I believe the contents of the allegations may/may not be bullsh*t. The point is the allegations regardless of their status place a huge cloud over the mayor, city hall and the entire city of Toronto. I wasn't going to get into it any further than this because I really can't speak for Mr. Ford and can only imagine what I'd do if I were in his boots. If I was innocent, I'd tell those bastards "with the video" to either disclose it or shove it where the sun don't shine and carry on with business as usual. If I was guilty, I'm not sure what I would do, but I think I would try to get help in an inconspicuous manner as possible and try to persuade the electorate to let me step down temporarily, knowing the chances are slim at best.

 

[gerryh]

Hang on, slow down Gerry. Believing them (which I don't necessarily) is not the issue. I believe the allegations are real, while I believe the contents of the allegations may/may not be bullsh*t. The point is the allegations regardless of their status place a huge cloud over the mayor, city hall and the entire city of Toronto. I wasn't going to get into it any further than this because I really can't speak for Mr. Ford and can only imagine what I'd do if I were in his boots. If I was innocent, I'd tell those bastards "with the video" to either disclose it or shove it where the sun don't shine and carry on with business as usual. If I was guilty, I'm not sure what I would do, but I think I would try to get help in an inconspicuous manner as possible and try to persuade the electorate to let me step down temporarily, knowing the chances are slim at best.

There is no proof that the allegations are real. Again, you clairvoyant?


Actually, it looks like you are confused.....Alzheimers?

 

[JLM]

There is no proof that the allegations are real. Again, you clairvoyant?


Actually, it looks like you are confused.....Alzheimers?

No you are confused (don't know how many times I have to repeat this) the allegations are real. They may be true or false, but that doesn't change the fact there ARE allegations!

 

[gerryh]

No you are confused (don't know how many times I have to repeat this) the allegations are real. They may be true or false, but that doesn't change the fact there ARE allegations!

Fu ck.... what a moron.....







I talked to 10 people in Vernon, and they told me (anonymously) that some old guy with the initials JM has been luring 5 and 6 year old little boys.


Get it yet dumb a$$?

 

[lone wolf]

You don't talk. You browbeat....


...something like FORD

 

[damngrumpy]

I had some reservations about the validity of the story as a whole until I really began to
think about it. His behaviour for example over the past several months is mixed at best.
He was of the opinion the media was spying on him, and he had delusions they were
out to get him, beyond the realm of a story. That could be for a variety of reasons he may
be a poor person to deal with media but this was excessive.
What really made me begin to question the Mayors assertions was when the Chief of
Staff was terminated. This kind of situation does not happen often and under these
circumstances almost never. The behind the scene story is the Chief of Staff may or
allegedly wanted Ford to get some help for his habit.
Remember years ago in New Brunswick, a Premier named Hatfield was up to all kinds of
no good and at first people were stunned and supportive. When the truth came out,
Frank McKenna won every seat in the House because the allegations turned out to be worse
than first thought.
I think there has been some serious allegations and some may well have merritt. The problem
is the story is on going and the truth one way or the other is about to come out whether the
participants like it or not. the old saying is where there is smoke there is fire. We have to see
if they are burning rubbish in a burning barrel or Mr Ford's career which would be a problem
of his own making.
but since news is now entertainment, we will all be treated to a great show I am sure (Enjoy)

 

[JLM]

Fu ck.... what a moron.....







I talked to 10 people in Vernon, and they told me (anonymously) that some old guy with the initials JM has been luring 5 and 6 year old little boys.


Get it yet dumb a$$?

You'd certainly know one, Gerry. YOU ARE A F**KING A$$HOLE!

I had some reservations about the validity of the story as a whole until I really began to
think about it. His behaviour for example over the past several months is mixed at best.
He was of the opinion the media was spying on him, and he had delusions they were
out to get him, beyond the realm of a story. That could be for a variety of reasons he may
be a poor person to deal with media but this was excessive.
What really made me begin to question the Mayors assertions was when the Chief of
Staff was terminated. This kind of situation does not happen often and under these
circumstances almost never. The behind the scene story is the Chief of Staff may or
allegedly wanted Ford to get some help for his habit.
Remember years ago in New Brunswick, a Premier named Hatfield was up to all kinds of
no good and at first people were stunned and supportive. When the truth came out,
Frank McKenna won every seat in the House because the allegations turned out to be worse
than first thought.
I think there has been some serious allegations and some may well have merritt. The problem
is the story is on going and the truth one way or the other is about to come out whether the
participants like it or not. the old saying is where there is smoke there is fire. We have to see
if they are burning rubbish in a burning barrel or Mr Ford's career which would be a problem
of his own making.
but since news is now entertainment, we will all be treated to a great show I am sure (Enjoy)

Exactly, as I was trying to get through Gerry's skull!

 

[gerryh]

point is, dumba$$, allegations SHOULD mean nothing to anyone with half a brain. PROVE what you say, and if you can't, then keep your fu cking mouth shut!. Too many people have been ruined through unfounded, and unprovable "allegations", and it is the week minded that keep these "allegations" rolling.

 

[weaselwords]

Just think of the repercussions the G&M story might have had they released it early November 2012 rather than keeping it in the can....