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Mischief charge in Blue Jays beer tossing
By Terry Davidson, Toronto Sun
First posted: Thursday, October 06, 2016 07:36 PM EDT | Updated: Thursday, October 06, 2016 10:52 PM EDT
TORONTO - Just about 24 hours after his wanted poster went viral, accused Rogers Centre beer-can tosser Ken Pagan was charged with mischief Thursday evening.
Pagan, 41, of Hamilton, arrived at Toronto Police’s 52 Division just after 7 p.m. and entered the station’s front doors without speaking to media.
Lawyer Tyler Smith said Pagan was charged upon entering the station with one count of mischief for the incident Tuesday during the Blue Jays-Orioles wild card game.
“We’re a little bit concerned, just because of ... a trial by social media that he’s had to endure,” Smith said. “But right now the presumption of innocence applies to him and we look forward to getting disclosure in court.”
The lawyer added he doesn’t expect Pagan to face additional charges.
“He is doing his best to co-operate,” Smith said.
Pagan was in the University Ave. and Dundas St. W.-area station for about two hours, and upon leaving walked past media without comment again before getting into a waiting SUV.
On Wednesday night, Pagan, who is an employee of Postmedia who works in Hamilton, told the Toronto Sun he had made arrangements to turn himself in. He also said he “was drinking out of a cup” at the game. Smith would not comment when asked about that.
When asked why it took until Thursday evening for Pagan to report to the police station, Smith said the man wanted to ensure he had a lawyer.
“He caught wind that the police wanted to talk to him, so he made himself available. He wanted to get a little bit of advice before he did that.”
The image police released of Pagan was taken from a photo of fans sitting above the left field bullpen. A beer can was tossed from the stands in the 7th inning after Jays batter Melvin Upton Jr. hit a fly ball deep into left field. As Orioles outfielder Hyun Soo Kim positioned himself to make the successful catch for the third out, the can came flying out from the stands, narrowly missing Kim.
Kim and teammate Adam Jones then began shouting at the people in the stands.
Pagan is scheduled to appear at Old City Hall court on Nov. 24 at 11 a.m.
tdavidson@postmedia.com

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He says he was drinking from a cup. But they don't sell them in cups (they used to have vendor pour the beer into a cup) but then they stooped. All they do is open them now.


And then of course there is the 2nd thrower theory.


https://www.thebeaverton.com/2016/10/blue-jays-conspiracy-theorists-cling-second-thrower-theory/


This incident has sure "grown legs", being that it was a real a$$holish thing to do, with a chance of resulting in serious injury, BUT if they do identify the perpetrator what will be the punishment? Maybe a $100 fine and a years suspension from attending any M.L.B. games.
 

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This incident has sure "grown legs", being that it was a real a$$holish thing to do, with a chance of resulting in serious injury, BUT if they do identify the perpetrator what will be the punishment? Maybe a $100 fine and a years suspension from attending any M.L.B. games.



It is a mischief charge. Probably a fine. Jays have said lifetime ban.
 

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It is a mischief charge. Probably a fine. Jays have said lifetime ban.


What it likely boils down to is a normally intelligent guy caught up in the heat of the moment and did a really stupid and potentially dangerous thing. He didn't take an axe to anyone's head and he didn't molest any little boys. Stiff fine and a suspension should do the trick and everyone else should get on with life.
 

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What it likely boils down to is a normally intelligent guy caught up in the heat of the moment and did a really stupid and potentially dangerous thing. He didn't take an axe to anyone's head and he didn't molest any little boys. Stiff fine and a suspension should do the trick and everyone else should get on with life.

I have no doubt that alcohol was involved.


Easy fix is to go back to serving beer in cups rather than cans.


To more important matters: Jays up 5-1 going into top of 8th. 2 run HR by Tulo, solos by Pillar, Encarnacion and Carrera account for Toronto's runs (Tulos runs in 2nd, 3 solos all in 5th). Happ did 5+ innings giving up only 1 run. Inline for win.
 

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Had to work this morning but the folks I work for are Jays fans so got to keep up with what was happening in the game. Got home in time to see Joe taken out of the game and Jason in to take care of the last out after Josh made that risky throw to home for the 2nd out of the game.

In the top of the 8th Eddy flew out, Joey struck out and Russell is at the plate right now and he takes a walk to first with 2 away

Tulo flies out and the Jays are retired

So Jason got us out of a sticky situation but he will be replaced by Fransico

I have a feeling that if Fransico is as good as he was last outing he may close for us, if not I think we may just see Roberto into the game for the 9th

Mind you, it's just a feeling ............I have no idea what Gibby has in mind

Damn it..............Rangers get a beautiful line drive right off the tip of Eddy's glove for a double to lead off the order

Superman gets the first out and the runner is held on base

Frannie is not having an easy time of it out there

Easy fix is to go back to serving beer in cups rather than cans.

Do they serve anything in cups........pop, coffee?

And Frannie walks the batter and there are 2 on base.................

Roberto is warming up in the bullpen

Gibby's sticking with Frannie...........for now

Ooooh that hurt...............Frannie just got hit in the back of the head with a ball that was hit at 102mph.. The Rangers get another run in and have two runners left on base and Gibby has to bring in Osuna.....................oh boy.

Roberto gets behind 3 and 1

Gets the batter swinging for strike 2..............gives up a ground ball that scores the runner at 3rd, batter is out at first but they still have a runner on 2nd............then his first pitch to the next batter is missed by Russell and the runner advances to 3rd............geez Jays get with it!!

2 and 2 with Beltran at bat...........and Osuna gets him swinging for the final out...........Texas leaves 2 on base........whew......Rangers get 2 in the 8th

5 - 3 Jays

Roberto will now attempt to come back in the 9th and finish this game off..................I pray that he does just that.

Jays go down in order and after an eye to eye in the dugout between Pete and Roberto, the latter will be back on the mound in the 9th.

Deep breath.......................

A double for Beltrey to lead off the order for the Rangers............a huge error by Upton who should have gone after the ball.........no more mistakes guys...........tieing run is at the plate

This is almost painful to watch right now.......

3 and 1 the count of the tieing run

3 and 2............foul ball........whoa and Roberto gets a fast ball by Odor for the 3rd strike..........whew

Roberto gets the next out on foul fly nabbed by someone........I missed who it was.....I am so nervous

2 out and the batter takes a strike..........strike two...........foul pop-up to the seats..........low for a ball........1 and 2 the count.......this will be Roberto's 30th pitch of the game.......another foul...........and superman nabs the fly ball and that's the ball game folks...........what an grand, fantastic wonderful save by Roberto........shaky start but the kid really came through and the Jays will go home up 2 - 0 in the series.............well done.

Final score: 5 - 3...........for the Jays :smile:

Watching Cleveland play Boston right now. Cheering for the Indians who just put up the first point on the scoreboard and lead the series 1 - 0. Go Cleveland!

David Price is having a tough time on the mound, he gave up that run and just gave up a 3RBI homer - a bullet to right and the Indians are ahead 4 - 0 bottom of the 2nd.

5 zip for the Indians going to the bottom of the 5th. Price was out of the game early.

Boston is going deep into it's bullpen tonight and the guy they have on the mound right now better pick up his stuff or he too will be heading for the dug-out. He gave up a run then walked a batter but just got the final out.....doubt we'll see him back with the Sox down 6 - zip going to the bottom of the 6th.

So The Tribe is off to Fenway Park for a chance to win the series after they shut-out the Sox today. My sister will be celebrating tonight. :smile: Final score was 5 - zip
 

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Toronto Blue Jays pitcher Francisco Liriano leans over to grab the rosin bag as, from left rear, Josh Donaldson, Darwin Barney, Troy Tulowitzki and Edwin Encarnacion, right, stand by him after he was hit on the back of the head by a single off the bat of Texas Rangers' Carlos Gomez in the eighth inning of Game 2 of an American League Division Series on Oct. 7, 2016, in Arlington, Texas. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip)


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RLINGTON, Texas — There were few smiles in the winning clubhouse, no music playing, no signs of celebration anywhere. In the hallway just outside a few minutes earlier, an ambulance was parked not far from the entrance. The Blue Jays were flying home to Toronto for Game 3 against the Texas Rangers, with a commanding two-game lead. Francisco Liriano was being taken on a stretcher to hospital.

“I know we’re playing in the playoffs. I know all that. I know the game was on the line. But once the ball hits somebody in the head like that, the No. 1 concern is the guy’s well-being,” said Blue Jays backup catcher Dioner Navarro.

“You can’t even describe what goes through your mind at that moment. It’s frightening. Oh man, so many things go through your mind.

Unfortunately, I’ve been through a few of those, too many really. As a catcher, your first reaction is, let’s see how the guy is doing.”

Navarro saw Liriano in the clubhouse before he was taken by stretcher to the ambulance. He seemed to be doing okay.

“Then we went back outside to watch the game. And when the game was over, I came back in and saw what was going on. Hopefully, he’ll be fine.”

Liriano was checked out at the hospital, then cleared to fly home with the team.

The line drive came off the bat of Carlos Gomez in the eighth inning, and Liriano’s herky-jerky left-handed delivery sent his body almost spinning around in front of the pitcher’s mound. He didn’t see the ball coming in his direction. It looked to hit him flush in the back of the head, just above the neck, and deflected for a double.

Darwin Barney had a clear view of it from his defensive position at second base.

“Obviously, your initial reaction is based on what his reaction is,” said Barney. “The guy is tough. He held his ground. There’s a lot that goes through your mind. It’s part of the game, the danger of playing the game.

“On the field, he seemed okay, a little shaken up. It was like he wanted to stay in the game. He’s a tough guy. I’m not sure what happened after he came off. I didn’t see him after that.”

This is baseball at its best and most frightening. This is nervous, anxious playoffs, a game that almost got away, and now a Jays team almost in position to advance consumed not by their lead, but by a fallen teammate.

Even quirky Joe Biagini, who specializes in the nonsensical, played this one straight.

“I have to go vomit,” he said on his way to the washroom.

He wasn’t alone in his sentiments.

“It’s scary, man,” said Marco Estrada, the Game 1 winner.

“I don’t like talking about this,” said Scott Feldman, the veteran pitcher. “You pray he’s going to be all right. That’s all you can do.”

“Jesus Christ, that was hard to see,” said Justin Smoak, the backup first baseman.

“It’s pitch and duck,” said Aaron Sanchez, the Game 3 starter. “It’s something you don’t ever want to see. I was really surprised he was still on his feet. You don’t know how serious it is until you find out what happens to the player. How flush it was off his head.”

Then he knocked with his fist on the panelling of his locker. “Knock on wood, it’s never happened to me.”

On the first day of August, in a trade that barely registered, the Blue Jays brought in the veteran Liriano from Pittsburgh, where his career had seemingly lost its way. He started a few games, was sent to the bullpen, then returned to starting games in September, when he found his edge once again.

There were many who believed he should start the wild-card game against Baltimore, but the Jays decided he would be more valuable to them in their left-handed-challenged bullpen.

The numbers indicate he pitched one-third of an inning and allowed two earned runs. The numbers don’t always explain the circumstances. And the unknown, not knowing Liriano’s status — whether he will be well enough to pitch again tomorrow or any other day in these playoffs — the thin lefty bullpen of the Jays somehow just got thinner.

But that seemed secondary to the larger human picture of this Friday afternoon. There is forever that pull between sport and personal circumstance. J.A. Happ understands this better than most — his career almost ended with a shot to the mound.

“I know he’s gone from here right now,” said Happ. “We’re hoping for the best. I don’t know exactly what’s going on. But, yeah, that was scary.”

More about the game: Blue Jays pitcher Liriano released from hospital after ball to head | Simmons |


 

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What it likely boils down to is a normally intelligent guy caught up in the heat of the moment and did a really stupid and potentially dangerous thing. He didn't take an axe to anyone's head and he didn't molest any little boys. Stiff fine and a suspension should do the trick and everyone else should get on with life.

“Whomever did this did bring disrepute on to 50,000 people in a stadium, did bring disrepute on to the good people of Toronto, and . . . threaten, in my view, the safety of ballplayers,” said Goldkind, who isn’t associated with the case. “But at the end of the day, we probably have a drunk idiot who made a nano-second mistake. I’m sorry, this is not Paul Bernardo. "

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...rom-local-favourite-to-public-enemy-no-1.html

Mowich is in her happy place.

:headbang: :lol:
 

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David Price (Boston's $217 million dollar man) lasted 3.1 innings and goes to 2-8 in playoffs (neither of his wins has come as a starter). While I don't hold it against Price he signed with Boston as Toronto never made him an offer, I can't feel too bad about this turn of events.
 

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Alleged Jays beer tosser barred from Rogers Centre, drinking
By Jenny Yuen, Toronto Sun
First posted: Friday, October 07, 2016 06:20 PM EDT | Updated: Friday, October 07, 2016 07:05 PM EDT
TORONTO - As the Blue Jays roll back to Rogers Centre on Sunday after a successful start to their series against the Texas Rangers, alleged beer-can tosser Ken Pagan won’t be allowed to cheer them on in person.
As part of the conditions of his release after he reported to Toronto Police’s 52 Division on Thursday night and was charged with mischief, the 41-year-old cannot attend games at the Rogers Centre. He is also prohibited from consuming alcohol.
Pagan’s lawyer, Tyler Smith, confirmed both of those conditions in an email to the Sun on Friday afternoon.
“Those are the conditions,” Smith said. “The alcohol prohibition is absolute, as in, not only while at the Rogers Centre. Those conditions were essentially imposed as a prerequisite to the release from the station.”
Pagan, a Postmedia copy editor in Hamilton, is alleged to have thrown a can of beer into the outfield at Rogers Centre during Tuesday night’s wild card game against the Baltimore Orioles. The can hit the turf not far from Baltimore outfielder Hyun Soo Kim, who was tracking a fly ball. Kim and teammate Adam Jones began shouting at spectators in the left field stands after the incident.
Pagan faces one count of mischief. He will appear at Old City Hall court on Nov. 24.
In the aftermath of the beer toss, Blue Jays officials apologized to the Orioles, denouncing the act.
“On the heels of one of the most competitive and exhilarating baseball games in our club’s history, it is extremely unfortunate that the irresponsible actions of one individual would detract from the game on the field, and tarnish an otherwise memorable night,” the club said in a statement.
jyuen@postmedia.com
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Adele sports Blue Jays jersey during Toronto show
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First posted: Friday, October 07, 2016 08:38 AM EDT | Updated: Friday, October 07, 2016 08:44 AM EDT
Superstar vocalist Adele showed some love for the Toronto Blue Jays during her performance at the Air Canada Centre Thursday night following their 10-1 ADLS Game 1 win against the Texas Rangers.
The singer wore a customized Jays’ jersey with her name emblazoned across the back while belting out her hit Rolling in the Deep during an encore performance.
The Jays appreciated her outfit choice, tweeting pictures of the songstress and this message: “Hello from the other side (of Bremner).”


http://twitter.com/i/videos/tweet/784219445740703744
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David Price (Boston's $217 million dollar man) lasted 3.1 innings and goes to 2-8 in playoffs (neither of his wins has come as a starter). While I don't hold it against Price he signed with Boston as Toronto never made him an offer, I can't feel too bad about this turn of events.

I could just picture my sister cheering every single run,hit and missed pitch as Price went down in flames yesterday. Go Cleveland. :smile:
 

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TORONTO (AP) -- Blue Jays left-hander Francisco Liriano sustained a concussion when he was struck on the back of the head by Carlos Gomez's line drive in Game 2 of the AL Division Series.

Head Athletic Trainer George Poulis said Liriano felt good after tests Saturday but that there is no timetable for his return. Game 3 is Sunday at Toronto.

''We're going to examine him each day and just go from there,'' Poulis said.

Players who sustain a concussion must be cleared by Major League Baseball before returning.

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/jays-liriano-concussion-no-timetable-return-214513083--mlb.html

I can't say as I am surprised by the diagnosis. A fast ball at 102mph is going to do something to one's head. This is really not good news for the Jays with Benoit still out. Danny Barnes has been added to the rotation until Fransico gets medical clearance.


 

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Love the fact Jays win 7-6 in 10 on an Odour error.

Best banner: "Would rather get punched in May than knocked out in October".

When I heard it was Odor, I did a fist pump - how very fitting that he should bear this loss. Sometimes what goes around comes back.

I got a little nervous for a bit when the bats were going for the long bomb but when Josh got that lovely double, I got all tingly. These guys seem to make a habit of heart-stopping wins. The look on the Ranger managers face said it all. Bye bye Texas.............again.

I'm really happy they did in it three as they have a few days to rest and recoup. If we're lucky we might get Fransico back and I fully expect to see Devon on the roster. I was so happy for Joe Biagini - to see him come back from a bad inning and perform like he did - full creds. Kudos to our entire pitching staff, they did what was asked of them.

Well done Blue Jays you gave me yet another reason to be thankful this day.