Toronto Blue Jays

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

When I heard it was Odor, I did a fist pump - how very fitting that he should bear this loss. Sometimes what goes around comes back.

I got a little nervous for a bit when the bats were going for the long bomb but when Josh got that lovely double, I got all tingly. These guys seem to make a habit of heart-stopping wins. The look on the Ranger managers face said it all. Bye bye Texas.............again.

I'm really happy they did in it three as they have a few days to rest and recoup. If we're lucky we might get Fransico back and I fully expect to see Devon on the roster. I was so happy for Joe Biagini - to see him come back from a bad inning and perform like he did - full creds. Kudos to our entire pitching staff, they did what was asked of them.

Well done Blue Jays you gave me yet another reason to be thankful this day.

Biagini pitched well. He had one ball the Rangers hit -- Pilar came within 2 inches of catching it. The 2 runs were Sanchez's. If they hadn't won, they would have been screwed. Gibbons burned the candle at both ends with the bullpen tonight. Texas would have been slightly better still having their closer.

Liriano can be back for game 2. Normally if you do substitution, you cannot bring player back next series. Exception being concussion protocol. In that case, he must be inactive 1 week and be cleared for return medically. That is why they did not deactivate Travis. I think they may want to add Goins on ALCS roster to give more infield depth.

Almost cheering for Boston as it would mean 2 starts against Price (good for 2 wins I am sure) and it would mean their ALDS went 5 games. But either Cleveland or Boston will be tough.

 

[talloola]

excellent game, excellent win for the jays, they are battling now,

I love the battle, didn't just cruise into the playoffs, they had

to play and play hard, that is how a team shows their stuff.

good series, now they wait.

 

[Mowich]

Biagini pitched well. He had one ball the Rangers hit -- Pilar came within 2 inches of catching it. The 2 runs were Sanchez's. If they hadn't won, they would have been screwed. Gibbons burned the candle at both ends with the bullpen tonight. Texas would have been slightly better still having their closer.

Liriano can be back for game 2. Normally if you do substitution, you cannot bring player back next series. Exception being concussion protocol. In that case, he must be inactive 1 week and be cleared for return medically. That is why they did not deactivate Travis. I think they may want to add Goins on ALCS roster to give more infield depth.

Almost cheering for Boston as it would mean 2 starts against Price (good for 2 wins I am sure) and it would mean their ALDS went 5 games. But either Cleveland or Boston will be tough.

I really wanted to see Aaron finish the inning, for his sake, but Gibby's substitutions work so I can't fault his calls. Roberto was lights out, if the last game didn't convince me that he is go to go, today's performance left no doubt.

Apparently two of the Rangers committed 3 errors in total on that final play, pretty well the same thing they did last year. Don't win many ball games that way.

How Josh saw the play.

"Well it was 3-2 and Russell was taking some pretty big swings," said Donaldson. "I was expecting contact right there. I was able to get a pretty good secondary [lead]. I was at third base when the throw was being made. Once I saw him miss the pick, I felt I had a chance right there, and fortunately for us, I was able to make it."

Blue Jays walk off on Rangers and into ALCS | MLB.com

I didn't realize that when the umps were reviewing the play it was Eddy's slide to first they were looking at, I thought they were looking at the slide.

More from the article:

MOMENTS THAT MATTERED

The mad dash: Encarnacion helped set up Donaldson's mad dash by getting to second base in 3.55 seconds, which forced Odor to rush his throw to first on the final play. According to Statcast™, that was Encarnacion's fastest first-to-second time on a forceout or double play all season, topping his previous best of 3.81 seconds. Martin got down the first-base line in 4.6 seconds, his sixth-fastest home-to-first time of the nearly 250 non-bunt times tracked for him this year. Donaldson topped out at 19.5 mph, which was faster than any speed he clocked in the last two weeks of the regular season after missing three games with a sore hip.


"When you have 50,000 fans screaming, it kind of numbs the pain a little bit," said Donaldson, who is still bothered by the sore hip. "It gives you that little extra bolt of adrenaline. … The fact of the matter is I want to be out there for my team, my teammates want me out there and I want to contribute in any way possible."

 

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[IdRatherBeSkiing]

Shipiro (former Cleveland Indians exec) of course wants to face Cleveland.

I really wanted to see Aaron finish the inning, for his sake, but Gibby's substitutions work so I can't fault his calls. Roberto was lights out, if the last game didn't convince me that he is go to go, today's performance left no doubt.

Apparently two of the Rangers committed 3 errors in total on that final play, pretty well the same thing they did last year. Don't win many ball games that way.

The only official error is to Odour who thew the ball away when throwing to 1st. This accounts for Donaldson moving from 3rd to home. The 1st baseman can't be faulted for failing to catch Odour's poor throw. And his throw to the catcher was pretty bang on. The catcher in trying to rush the tag failed to secure the ball. But if you watch the replay, it mattered not. Donaldson had his hand on the plate before the glove even came close to him. I prefer to stick it on Odour and only Odour. For the other guys, sometimes you can't cover for the incompetence of your teammates.

Was it Odour who committed the 3 errors in the 7th inning in last year's ALDS game 5?

From the MLB.COM article on the series love this line:

WHAT'S NEXT
Rangers: Opening Day 2017 is against the Indians on April 3 at Globe Life Park in Arlington.

 

[Mowich]

Shipiro (former Cleveland Indians exec) of course wants to face Cleveland.



The only official error is to Odour who thew the ball away when throwing to 1st. This accounts for Donaldson moving from 3rd to home. The 1st baseman can't be faulted for failing to catch Odour's poor throw. And his throw to the catcher was pretty bang on. The catcher in trying to rush the tag failed to secure the ball. But if you watch the replay, it mattered not. Donaldson had his hand on the plate before the glove even came close to him. I prefer to stick it on Odour and only Odour. For the other guys, sometimes you can't cover for the incompetence of your teammates.

Was it Odour who committed the 3 errors in the 7th inning in last year's ALDS game 5?

From the MLB.COM article on the series love this line:

WHAT'S NEXT
Rangers: Opening Day 2017 is against the Indians on April 3 at Globe Life Park in Arlington.

Just saying that Moreland's throw to home after he finally tracked down the errant throw from smelly, was off the mark. When Josh's hand hit the plate the ball wasn't even in the catcher's mitt. But sticking with smelly is just fine by me. No it wasn't Odor last year, it Elvis Andrus the SS who made 2 errors late in Game 5 of the ALDS that cost the Rangers dearly.

Cleveland up 4 - 1 with one away bottom of the 6th.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

Just saying that Moreland's throw to home after he finally tracked down the errant throw from smelly, was off the mark. When Josh's hand hit the plate the ball wasn't even in the catcher's mitt. But sticking with smelly is just fine by me.

I have watched the play about 10 or more times. He tried to block the ball as if he didn't it would scoot down right field and end the game. When he did that that gave Josh the time. The ball came probably 1/4 second after Josh touched the plate. The catcher tried to speed that up and even then was too slow but caused him to lose the ball. It all comes down to smelly's bad throw.

No it wasn't Odor last year, it Elvis Andrus the SS who made 2 errors late in Game 5 of the ALDS that cost the Rangers dearly.

Yes I read that. Too bad.

I have been reading what Texas media have been saying after the losses. They have not been kind to any part of the team. Looks like they have lots of question marks going to next season -- mostly pitching. The free agent crop for pitchers is weak and they don't have much trade bait as they made lots of trade deadline acquisitions this year. And that assumes you accept the first 2 pitchers we saw in the series are their 'aces' for next year. The 3rd guy is a free agent but did nothing to endure himself to the Texas media in his 2 innings of play on Sunday.

 

[Mowich]

I have been reading what Texas media have been saying after the losses. They have not been kind to any part of the team. Looks like they have lots of question marks going to next season -- mostly pitching. The free agent crop for pitchers is weak and they don't have much trade bait as they made lots of trade deadline acquisitions this year. And that assumes you accept the first 2 pitchers we saw in the series are their 'aces' for next year. The 3rd guy is a free agent but did nothing to endure himself to the Texas media in his 2 innings of play on Sunday.

I don't hate the Texas Rangers. I do however intensely dislike smelly for all the obvious reasons and I thought their managers gesture in the dug-out after smelly got the homer was tasteless and lacking in class. I do not wish the team bad fortune and hope they can get things back on track next year. That said, I am so very grateful that the Jays sent them packing in 3 straight games. It may teach them not to be so quick to judgement when another team's player comes up with a big play in a game that really counts and celebrates with exuberance.

Boston gets another run in bottom of the 6th but the Indians still lead by 2. Looks like it is a bit chilly today in Fenway park judging by the way the fans are all bundled up. Another reason that I would like to see the Indians win is that much as I admire what Ortiz has done in his career, I am really way past listening to all the continued hype surrounding it and his retirement.

Sox got another one in the 8th to cut the Indians lead to 1.

Cleveland is 1 out away from taking the series

And Jackie Bradley Jr who had gone hitless so far, got a single with 2 away

Codey Allen the Indians pitcher must be giving the Cleveland dug-out the willies. He's all over the place with his pitches and at 3 and 2 he walks the batter putting 2 on base. The Sox bench loves it.

Apparently 'they are living and dieing with every pitch in Fenway Park' according to the announcers - better call the coroner. 3 and 1 for Allen now .........3 and 2 .............and he gets the batter to fly out. Indians sweep the Red Sox winning this one by a single run. Now they will get ready to play our Blue Jays just like I was hoping.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

I don't hate the Texas Rangers. I do however intensely dislike smelly for all the obvious reasons and I thought their managers gesture in the dug-out after smelly got the homer was tasteless and lacking in class. I do not wish the team bad fortune and hope they can get things back on track next year. That said, I am so very grateful that the Jays sent them packing in 3 straight games. It may teach them not to be so quick to judgement when another team's player comes up with a big play in a game that really counts and celebrates with exuberance.

I missed that gesture. What did he do?


I don't have any dislike for Texas either. But I find it interesting what their journalists are saying about them.

 

[Mowich]

I missed that gesture. What did he do?


I don't have any dislike for Texas either. But I find it interesting what their journalists are saying about them.

Geez, wish I could post videos properly because describing the gesture isn't easy...........basically it was one of those fist clenched bent elbow ones with the other hand clenched around the upper part of the bent arm - all that was missing was the raised middle finger. Shortly after that shot, smelly came back to the dugout after his homer and did the legs spread lower body pump a couple of times. Tasteless to say the least.

I don't think the Toronto media would have been any kinder to the Jays had they dropped the series, IRBS, do you? It is amusing after the Texas media made sure they had front page photos of smelly's punch to Joey's prior to the start of the series in Texas. But...........it's Texas need more be said? :smile:

 

[talloola]

Geez, wish I could post videos properly because describing the gesture isn't easy...........basically it was one of those fist clenched bent elbow ones with the other hand clenched around the upper part of the bent arm - all that was missing was the raised middle finger. Shortly after that shot, smelly came back to the dugout after his homer and did the legs spread lower body pump a couple of times. Tasteless to say the least.

I don't think the Toronto media would have been any kinder to the Jays had they dropped the series, IRBS, do you? It is amusing after the Texas media made sure they had front page photos of smelly's punch to Joey's prior to the start of the series in Texas. But...........it's Texas need more be said? :smile:

winning takes care of all of that, even more so when the opposition looks sloppy on the winning run, any gestures by mgr./players do nothing to help themselves, and at the end of the day, make them look stupid and childish.

 

[Mowich]

winning takes care of all of that, even more so when the opposition looks sloppy on the winning run, any gestures by mgr./players do nothing to help themselves, and at the end of the day, make them look stupid and childish.

You are so right about winning take care of it, talloola but what I am also pleased about was that not once did the Jays stoop to doing anything out of order. They let the past stay where it was and just got on with playing baseball.

 

[talloola]

You are so right about winning take care of it, talloola but what I am also pleased about was that not once did the Jays stoop to doing anything out of order. They let the past stay where it was and just got on with playing baseball.

yeah, they did, and that took care of everything, texas are left with 'nothing', and also can't feel
proud of their behavior, or maybe those who did the gestures and some others, still think they
gained something there, putting their energy where it doesn't belong, takes away the room for
good positive constructive energy, that might have helped their game.

anyway, that is now the past, texas can live with that, jays can look forward to more baseball.

 

[Mowich]

Just heard that Marco Estrada will be on the mound against the Indians in Game 1 on Friday.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

Just heard that Marco Estrada will be on the mound against the Indians in Game 1 on Friday.

He wouldn't have been my choice but I can't really argue against any of the 4 main guys at this point.

 

[Mowich]

He wouldn't have been my choice but I can't really argue against any of the 4 main guys at this point.

I was surprised, IRBS I thought it was going to be Stroman for some reason........don't know where I got that idea. Considering how Marco handled Texas in Game 1, not a bad choice at all..........agree with you about any of the 4 - though Aaron needs a day or two.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

I was surprised, IRBS I thought it was going to be Stroman for some reason........don't know where I got that idea. Considering how Marco handled Texas in Game 1, not a bad choice at all..........agree with you about any of the 4 - though Aaron needs a day or two.

Aaron would have been on 5 days rest (normal). I think Stroman might be game 3 (and therefore 7 if necessary). They may do Sanchez game 4 in order to preserve innings. But they may just be picking them out of a hat at this point.

 

[Mowich]

Aaron would have been on 5 days rest (normal). I think Stroman might be game 3 (and therefore 7 if necessary). They may do Sanchez game 4 in order to preserve innings. But they may just be picking them out of a hat at this point.

I cannot fault Gibby for his choices so far. Compared to the managers we've played, he looks pretty darn good. I trust that putting Marco in will only enforce that opinion.

Never-the-less, I will continue my to keep the Jays in my daily prayers to the Universe. :lol:

 

[spaminator]

Blue Jays broadcasters will not say 'Indians' nickname in ALCS
THE CANADIAN PRESS
First posted: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 05:23 PM EDT | Updated: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 05:41 PM EDT
TORONTO - Blue Jays broadcaster Jerry Howarth won’t be using the word “Indians” when he calls the American League Championship Series between Toronto and Cleveland, and he says he hasn’t uttered the team nickname on the air for nearly 25 years.
Howarth told The Fan 590 on Tuesday that he stopped using team names like Indians and Braves and terms such as tomahawk chop and powwow on the mound after receiving a letter from an aboriginal fan after Toronto defeated Atlanta in the 1992 World Series.
He called it “one of the best fan letters I’ve ever received.”
“He said. 'Jerry, I appreciate your work but in the World Series, it was so offensive to have the tomahawk chop and to have people talk about the powwows on the mound and then the Cleveland Indians logo and the Washington Redskins.’ He just wrote it in such a loving, kind way. He said ’I would really appreciate it if you would think about what you say with those teams.”’
Howarth wrote the man back, promising he would stop using Indians, Braves and other offensive words.
“I haven’t from that point on,” he said.
Sportsnet’s Jamie Campbell, who hosts “Blue Jays Central,” said he will be following Howarth’s lead.
“Like Jerry Howarth, I will attempt to avoid using the name of Cleveland’s baseball team during our broadcasts,” Campbell tweeted.
The issue was also gaining steam on social media Tuesday, a day after Cleveland beat the Boston Red Sox to advance to the AL championship series against Toronto, with many praising Howarth and using the hashtag #notyourmascot.
There have been demonstrations at Cleveland’s home opener every season for decades with protesters calling on the team to change its nickname and abolish the Chief Wahoo logo, an image of a smiling, red-faced character with a feather on his head.
Similar calls have been made for the NFL’s Washington Redskins and CFL’s Edmonton Eskimos to change their nicknames.
The Indians have said they understand there are passionate views about the logo but will keep using it on uniforms and caps.
But Howarth said he has no intention of changing his approach.
“It’s always interesting to see things in black and white but when you get a fan letter from someone who has lived it and breathed it, and said in a very eloquent way ’It’s just so offensive and we don’t like it’ ... it was my way of saying ’I agree with you and your feelings and that’s how I’m going to honour that and your entire native American culture.”’
The ALCS starts Friday in Cleveland.
Blue Jays broadcasters will not say 'Indians' nickname in ALCS | MLB PLAYOFFS |

 

[Mowich]

The new 600-room Hilton Cleveland Downtown will be filled this weekend with Toronto Blue Jays fans -- and so will every other hotel in town.
(Thomas Ondrey, The Plain Dealer)

CLEVELAND, Ohio – Toronto fans moved fast.

Just after the third out in the bottom of the ninth at Boston's Fenway Park on Monday night, hotel reservations started pouring into Northeast Ohio. By Tuesday morning, Blue Jays fans had snatched up nearly every available hotel room in downtown Cleveland for the start of the American League Championship Series this Friday.

"These playoff games are amazing for what they do for Cleveland," said Bob Megazzini, general manager at the Westin Cleveland Downtown.

Laurel Keller, vice president at Cleveland's Hotel & Leisure Advisors, took a quick survey of downtown hotel occupancy early Tuesday. What she and a colleague found: Nearly every hotel in the downtown area was booked solid.

Those few hotels that had some vacancies – the Renaissance, for example, had at least a handful of rooms available on Tuesday night -- were fetching prices far above average ($425 and up at the Renaissance).

According to Megazzini, sellout baseball games are more lucrative for hotels than sellout basketball -- in part because baseball stadiums hold many more fans than basketball arenas (36,000 at Progressive Field, for example, compared to 20,500 at The Q).

"We're lucky it's not a Browns weekend this weekend," said Megazzini.

Ronnie Collins, director of sales and marketing at the new 600-room Hilton Cleveland Downtown, said the hotel booked up just after Monday night's game ended.

"I was hanging on every pitch," said Collins, fully aware that reservations would take off as soon as the game was over. The Hilton, too, tried to stimulate demand in the Toronto market, quickly sending out emailed sales pitches to Hilton Honors members in that city.

More: Toronto Blue Jays fans snatch up downtown Cleveland hotel rooms in advance of ALCS | cleveland.com

You Go Jay's fans!

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