Tories in damage control over abortion funding

[coldstream]

When Harper gets the majority that has eluded him for years the Bible will replace the Human Rights Act.

It's hard to imagine a more dangerous situation than we have now, with the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, which has created a judicial tyranny, unelected and irresponsible.. dedicated to radical individualism, moral relativism and societal decay.

I would be quite happy with a sovereign Parliament duly obligated to the electorate, than the dictatorship from the bench, dedicated to a culture of death, and a Parliament to gutless to confront them, as we have now.

my personal opinion: I support it but with active reluctance. ie I recognize that not allowing abortion would be cruel, yet I have this strong fear that we are abusing it.

You can find sonogram images of a child being torn limb from limb, screaming in agony, in the womb of its mother, by the suction devices and probes of the abortionist.. this is where this type of 'benevolence' has led us.

 

[CDNBear]

It's hard to imagine a more dangerous situation than we have now, with the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, which has created a judicial tyranny, unelected and irresponsible.. dedicated to radical individualism, moral relativism and societal decay.

I would be quite happy with a sovereign Parliament duly obligated to the electorate, than the dictatorship from the bench, dedicated to a culture of death, and a Parliament to gutless to confront them, as we have now..

Yes, you preach religious fundamentalism, like a fundamentalist Muslim pro.

Thank gawd, we have the rule of law to protect us from people like you.

 

[TenPenny]

You can find sonogram images of a child being torn limb from limb, screaming in agony, in the womb of its mother, by the suction devices and probes of the abortionist.. this is where this type of 'benevolence' has led us.

You can find images of women having sex with horses, too.

Not sure what your point is, but there's all kinds of stuff out there if that's how you get your jollies.

 

[taxslave]

yep, its rude to say "congratulations, I hear you are having a fetus" and its rude to say " a woman has the right to kill their own baby"

It is not a baby until after it is born. Didn't you learn anything in biology?

You can find sonogram images of a child being torn limb from limb, screaming in agony, in the womb of its mother, by the suction devices and probes of the abortionist.. this is where this type of 'benevolence' has led us.

What kind of drugs do you do to see something like that?

 

[gerryh]

The Bible belt Conservative supporters must be taken care of and abortion is a big no no

When Harper gets the majority that has eluded him for years the Bible will replace the Human Rights Act.

Immorality will not be tolerated or funded.

Women will be chased back into the kitchen and out of the work place and the only jobs they will have is baby makers or child care workers or elderly care and the men will take care of the more important work like God intended for them.

Now this is the thinking of the Reform Conservatives and the Progressive Conservatives are always battling them and the new Conservative party is on the verge of fracturing and this is the only reason why they can’t get the majority.

The fracturing of a political party has happened before like when the Reform party dumped Preston Manning and when the Liberal party dumped Jean Chretien.

This is why voting Conservative in this federal election is a real gamble because no one knows the real Conservative party.

what a fu ckin moron.:roll:

 

[cranky]

It is not a baby until after it is born. that?

So your wife must have said "honey, come feel the fetus kick me"

 

[taxslave]

what a fu ckin moron.:roll:

That is demeaning to morons.

 

[gerryh]

It is not a baby until after it is born. Didn't you learn anything in biology?



What kind of drugs do you do to see something like that?

what kind of drugs are YOU on to continue to ignore the continued abuse of THE most innocent in our society today.


Do you also rationalize excuses for sex abusers, rapists and other murderers or just those that kill these children?

 

[TenPenny]

what kind of drugs are YOU on to continue to ignore the continued abuse of THE most innocent in our society today.

I didn't realize that unborn people were members of our society.

 

[taxslave]

what kind of drugs are YOU on to continue to ignore the continued abuse of THE most innocent in our society today.


Do you also rationalize excuses for sex abusers, rapists and other murderers or just those that kill these children?

I see you know nothing about biology either. But you do swallow all the BS your cult leaders feed you.

 

[coldstream]

It is not a baby until after it is born. Didn't you learn anything in biology?



What kind of drugs do you do to see something like that?

So i take it it's all right with you, as long as you don't have to witness it. Life begins at conception. God save us from the 'good intentions' of the truly ignorant.

 

[gerryh]

I see you know nothing about biology either. But you do swallow all the BS your cult leaders feed you.

and what cult leaders would that be?


I have seen the sonograms of my children, and I have felt them kick me from within their mothers belly. I don't need anyone to tell me that they are alive, and I don't need anyone to rationalize a murder.

 

[CDNBear]

what a fu ckin moron.:roll:

Short, sweet, to the point and factual. I love how you cut to the bone, of an issue.

I have to ask Gh, are there any situations, in which you would see abortion, as an ethical/moral option?

You know I'm no huge fan of it. But I do recognize the right of a woman to have control over her own body. You know how I feel about peoples rights.

 

[JLM]

When Harper gets the majority that has eluded him for years the Bible will replace the Human Rights Act.[/SIZE]

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And probably for good reason, the Bible makes more sense. :lol:

 

[gerryh]

Short, sweet, to the point and factual. I love how you cut to the bone, of an issue.

I have to ask Gh, are there any situations, in which you would see abortion, as an ethical/moral option?

You know I'm no huge fan of it. But I do recognize the right of a woman to have control over her own body. You know how I feel about peoples rights.

Abortion as an ethical/moral option? I would have to say never. I do not see taking of a human life ever to have an ethical/moral option.


Of course women have the right to control of their own body. I have never stated otherwise. What I object to is the women deciding to excersise her right AFTER she has another human life inside of her. She wants control of her own body, then do what is nesasary to ensure pregnancy does not occur. Take RESPONSIBILITY for your actions.


WHen it comes to things like rape and incest/molestation that is more difficult, BUT, KILLING the baby does not negate the act.

 

[CDNBear]

Abortion as an ethical/moral option? I would have to say never. I do not see taking of a human life ever to have an ethical/moral option.

Fair enough, I can fully respect that belief.

Of course women have the right to control of their own body. I have never stated otherwise. What I object to is the women deciding to excersise her right AFTER she has another human life inside of her. She wants control of her own body, then do what is nesasary to ensure pregnancy does not occur. Take RESPONSIBILITY for your actions.

Again, I can't fault you for your convictions there, hell I actually agree with you, more than just a little.

WHen it comes to things like rape and incest/molestation that is more difficult, BUT, KILLING the baby does not negate the act.

I can understand the internal struggle you would have in a situation like that. God knows, I have my own.

Thanks for being honest and frank with me bud.

 

[cranky]

Abortion as an ethical/moral option? I would have to say never. I do not see taking of a human life ever to have an ethical/moral option.


Of course women have the right to control of their own body. I have never stated otherwise. What I object to is the women deciding to excersise her right AFTER she has another human life inside of her. She wants control of her own body, then do what is nesasary to ensure pregnancy does not occur. Take RESPONSIBILITY for your actions.


WHen it comes to things like rape and incest/molestation that is more difficult, BUT, KILLING the baby does not negate the act.

rape and molestation are not prevailent enough to explain the 43 abortions per 100 live births that Canada has. There's a whole lot of narcicistic behavior going on, and our sense of protecting a baby's life is getting compromised.

I'm not saying that to convince anyone to be against abortion, I just think we need to be a whole lot more controlled over why we abort

 

[Cannuck]

I'm really sure what Gerry's issue with abortion is. "The law" says it's allowed and since he's used this argument to defend some of his other positions, he does seem to come off as a bit of a hypocrite.

 

[gerryh]

rape and molestation are not prevailent enough to explain the 43 abortions per 100 live births that Canada has. There's a whole lot of narcicistic behavior going on, and our sense of protecting a baby's life is getting compromised.

I'm not saying that to convince anyone to be against abortion, I just think we need to be a whole lot more controlled over why we abort

Really? DId I say otherwise?

Being "controlled" over why we kill children is one of the reasons why we have no restrictions right now.


I'm curious, do you agree with the death penalty and/or the killing in war?

 

[lone wolf]

The Law is an asshole.... That being said, there is no law governing a person's own sense of what is morally right or wrong. Pity some can't see the difference....