I support the right to arm bears. For me there will only be balance in the world when there as many people killed by bears as there are bears killed by people. Humans are not any more important than any other life form. Humans are just on a monster ego trip and need to be taken down a peg or two.
To what extent should we grant the right to bear arms?
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I do support some measure of gun control, and in Canada the constitution does not
give us the right to have arms. Some people should not be allowed to own them and if caught the punishment should fit the crime. The same when a crime is done
using weapons. There are all kinds of laws on the books already and making more is a total waste of time and effort. What we need is enforcement of the laws we have now not more laws that are ignored by judges.
give us the right to have arms. Some people should not be allowed to own them and if caught the punishment should fit the crime. The same when a crime is done
using weapons. There are all kinds of laws on the books already and making more is a total waste of time and effort. What we need is enforcement of the laws we have now not more laws that are ignored by judges.
I heavily question these stats as the crimes rarly crosses cultural boundaries. I have a nice big home in NC and at worst somebody will steal my cord to plug in the vehicles or a flower pot goes missing. I've lived all over western canada and things are no better or no worse anywhere else. It's not a crime problem but a culturally self-induced poverty issue based on ridiculous speculations.
So would you say that a person who legitimately depends on hunting for subsistence should be prohibited from owning a firearm and be required to rely on bow and arrow instead? I'm neither agreeing nor disagreeing with you at this point... yet. First, I just want to know if I understand you correctly.
I live in Regina, where Police response isn't famous for being
very good in certain area's of the city. My Dog and I performed
a citizens arrest a couple of years back, where it turns out the
Police had been chasing this guy (who was on foot) for a couple
of hours in their cars....and lost him in my alley. I live about ten
city blocks from the Police Station. We read off over the phone
to the Police this guys PIC#, SIN#, Prisoner ID#, D.O.B. and
full name (relieved him of his wallet), and the response time was
45 minutes....but three cars showed up at the same time. My Dog
and I had this guy about 40 seconds after he came over the fence,
and while a Police car was still visible turning out'a the far end of
my alley.
A Freak, absolutely stoned out'a his face, was ripping all the boards
off the fence of some friends of mine (He was at work, and She was
at home with their two preschool girls. Police where called and the
response time was....well...their still waiting...and we replaced the
entire fence last summer already.
I could give several more examples, but I'm assuming you can see
the pattern here. You don't have to live in more isolated areas to not
be able to rely on the government for you protection. Law abiding,
non-mental, clean criminal record check Canadian citizens should be
able to own and use firearms for reasonable defense in areas like the
far north, and Regina, and Saskatoon, and Winnipeg, where crime is
going to happen....and the Police will happen along eventually when it
is safe to do so...and not until then.
Source: Crunching the crime numbers | Macleans.ca - Canada - Features
That I can agree to, and could be legitimately interpreted as a necessity in certain areas like where you live, without a doubt.
In Ont., shortest legal 'shotgun' barrell length = 19 1/2 inches. that makes a decent room broom.
Not as good as sawed off just after the forestock, but, hey..........
Automatic jail time for owning one?? Anyone know.??
I voted "to the extent necessary." In a perfect world I would say have them available -but all available guns should be the ole' fashioned gunpowder and buck-shot type varies. (i.e you shoot - then you pour in the gunpowder, buck shot, and aim again).
However, living in this reality - guns are widely available. Making them illegal won't restrict their existence. This is where more appropriate laws are needed.
BTW - all guns SHOULD be registered. My car, dog, heck - marriage, need to be registered - a piece of technology whose sole purpose is to kill something should also be registered.
However, living in this reality - guns are widely available. Making them illegal won't restrict their existence. This is where more appropriate laws are needed.
BTW - all guns SHOULD be registered. My car, dog, heck - marriage, need to be registered - a piece of technology whose sole purpose is to kill something should also be registered.
A shotgun is actually measured in overall lenght....
I had a 410 backpacker a few years ago with a twelve inch barrel.....absolutely legal ...
I can see some posters are eating shreddies and peering, sporting cammo face paint, out from behind the box !
I'm with you. Marriage can be a deadly weapon. My ex-sister in law has had three husbands die on her and she says she didn't do it. I call her the black widow. She now lives with her boyfriend. She doesn't want him to die too.
Man was hunting killing other man long before the invention of the gun.
Longbow and Arrow - Made for the common man
Crossbow
Catapult (all forms)
Sword
Spear
Throwing Stick
Knife
Broken Branch (club)
Bone
Rock
If these were not invented, we probably would still be living in trees if we survived at all. A gun is just another tool as we climb the evolutionary ladder. They make man a wolf, not a sheep.
If these were not invented, we probably would still be living in trees if we survived at all. A gun is just another tool as we climb the evolutionary ladder. They make man a wolf, not a sheep.
Man is so efficient at killing that he has become a parasite, killing other species to the point of extinction and thus destroying the host organism that he relies on for life - the Earth.
Man is so efficient at killing that he has become a parasite, killing other species to the point of extinction and thus destroying the host organism that he relies on for life - the Earth.
Hey, Ironsides, you haven't listed "love thine enemies."
I thought Yanks were weaned on Matthew 5:43.
I thought Yanks were weaned on Matthew 5:43.
"Scripture teaches that one should destroy one's enemies, and take an eye for an eye: "Thou hast also given me the necks of mine enemies, that I might destroy them. (Samuel 22:40-42)...Show no pity: life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot." (Deuteronomy 19:20-22 )"
Violent Book Huh? :lol:
Violent Book Huh? :lol:
People that live in big cities ahould have access to hand guns because the police can only clean up the mess after it happens, where people would be able to defend themselves effectively as it is happening.
To keep control on the weapons there should be police type stores to sell the hand guns and the police should offer hand gun safety courses.
The criminal would thing twice before attacking anybody.
To keep control on the weapons there should be police type stores to sell the hand guns and the police should offer hand gun safety courses.
The criminal would thing twice before attacking anybody.
If it was determined that, because of where we fit (Regina, S'toon,
Winnepeg) so far beyond the national crime averages, that law
abiding, mentally fit, clean criminal record citizens would have the
right to carry due to deplorable response times in some area's of
this city....I wouldn't want to carry anyway....but I would feel much
better knowing that the criminals know that I might be armed, and
that others that might be victims are actually armed.
I'm quite comfortable (6'2" & 208lbs) and my dogs deture the hookers
and panhandlers and most junkies (not all, but most...some think it's their
right to pet my dogs while their freaking out, and threaten they'll sue if
they get bitten). Being aware of my surroundings works for me most of
the time. My only real concern are the Law Enforcement Officers them
-selves locally, as the local force has some issues, and it's directly
reflected in the young frontline officers.
But, my brother, there is some redemption. Again, from Deuteronomy,
2:25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die.
If a woman is raped in the country, then only the man shall die (since there was no one to hear her if she cried out.)
22:26 But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter"
Without even reading the other posts yet.... Colpy will be on a slow burn and well on his way to an anuerysm.
If these were not invented, we probably would still be living in trees if we survived at all. A gun is just another tool as we climb the evolutionary ladder. They make man a wolf, not a sheep
Really..... Prehistoric "man" was a herbivore and occassional scavenger. Weapons had "zero" to be with the evolution from "trees" to "ground"
A "gun" making a man a wolf and not a sheep? Hmmm. I would think it would be the other way around. A wolf can take care of itself. A sheep needs help (a weapon)
Guns = sheep