To IMPEACH ????

Ocean Breeze

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Do you like your popcorn buttered? :smile:
LOL.......absolutely. !! sending you a bag full as we watch this saga continue ;-)

Gosh, between this and the Brits leaving the EU tomorrow..........and the crazy virus running amok........there is lots of drama circulating around. Will have to stalk up on more popcorn...;-)
 

Mockingbird

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LOL.......absolutely. !! sending you a bag full as we watch this saga continue ;-)
Gosh, between this and the Brits leaving the EU tomorrow..........and the crazy virus running amok........there is lots of drama circulating around. Will have to stalk up on more popcorn...;-)

Things have taken on an slight apocalyptic tone as of late. More popcorn is def required.
 

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But still, you post as much if not more than others... about Trump. You keep deliberately stepping in the shit that you say you have no time for. There is a system in place, it's called the impeachment process and it's playing out now. Would you rather a leader have full unbridled power to do whatever he feels for his own personal gain? Should the USA do away with impeachment altogether? Should there be no checks and balances in place to protect democracy? And what price would you assign to be sure that democracy was protected?

Oh and you want to save the taxpayers a few bushels of money? I have a suggestion, how about take a closer look at just how much Trumps jungle gym, I mean border wall is costing the American taxpayers? A wall that can be scaled by an 8 year old or cut through with a $100 dollar reciprocating saw.

https://www.npr.org/2020/01/19/7973...-border-wall-would-be-the-world-s-most-costly
Well you certainly make it clear that you have no time for the man . But guess what , he is President and will still be tomorrow . And to make matters better , he probably will still be President this time next year . Enjoy the ride .
 

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'GAME OVER,' Trump declares, as old Bolton, Schiff videos surface amid Senate impeachment trial

A string of newly resurfaced video clips of former national security adviser John Bolton spurred President Trump and his supporters Wednesday to highlight what they described as serious credibility questions -- raised by both Democrats and Republicans -- amid the Senate impeachment trial, as the president tweeted, "GAME OVER!"
In his tweet, Trump linked to an interview of Bolton in August 2019 where he discusses Ukraine policy. In the Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty interview clip, Bolton made no mention of any illicit quid pro quo, and acknowledged, as Republicans have claimed, that combating "corruption" in Ukraine was a "high priority" for the Trump administration.
Bolton also called Trump's communications with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky "warm and cordial," without mentioning any misconduct. It seemingly contradicted reported assertions in Bolton's forthcoming book that Trump explicitly told him he wanted to tie military aid to Ukraine to an investigation into Joe and Hunter Biden. (Zelensky has said his communications with Trump involved no pressure for any investigation.)………….More
 

petros

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Oopsies!

To the interim director of the National Bureau of Investigation

COMPLAINT [against Joe Biden]

On the commission of a criminal offense

(under article 214 of the Criminal Procedure Code of Ukraine)

I have read and understood Article 63 of the Constitution of Ukraine and the liability provided for in Article 383 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine “Slanderous denunciation of an offense”.

Shokin V.M. (signature).

During the period 2014-2016, the Prosecutor General’s Office of Ukraine was conducting a preliminary investigation into a series of serious crimes committed by the former Minister of Ecology of Ukraine Mykola Zlotchevsky and by the managers of the company “Burisma Holding Limited “(Cyprus), the board of directors of which included, among others, Hunter Biden, son of Joseph Biden, then vice-president of the United States of America.

The investigation into the above-mentioned crimes was carried out in strict accordance with Criminal Law and was under my personal control as the Prosecutor General of Ukraine.

Owing to my firm position on the above-mentioned cases regarding their prompt and objective investigation, which should have resulted in the arrest and the indictment of the guilty parties, Joseph Biden developed a firmly hostile attitude towards me which led him to express in private conversations with senior Ukrainian officials, as well as in his public speeches, a categorical request for my immediate dismissal from the post of Attorney General of Ukraine in exchange for the sum of US $ 1 billion in as a financial guarantee from the United States for the benefit of Ukraine.

The facts I have described above are confirmed, among other things, by the official interview of Joseph Biden published in the media (
), where he declares that Ukraine will not receive money if I remain in my post as Attorney General.

Throughout the last months of 2015 and the first months of 2016 Joseph Biden, taking advantage of his position, came several times on official visits to Ukraine in order to negotiate with the leaders of the country my eviction and, consequently, the closing of the objective investigation into the offenses committed by persons associated with the company “Burisma Holding Limited” (Cyprus), including the son of the aforementioned US official.

Due to continued pressure from the Vice President of the United States Joseph Biden to oust me from the job by blackmailing the allocation of financial assistance, I, as the man who places the State interests above my personal interests, I agreed to abandon the post of Prosecutor General of Ukraine.

After my resignation caused by illegal pressure, no active investigation into the offenses concerning the company “Burisma Holding Limited” (Cyprus) was carried out and, therefore, the persons implicated in these offenses were not identified, nor arrested or charged.

According to the conclusions of the International Law Association of 18.04.2017, made by the doctor of law, Professor O.O. Merezhko, at the time vice-president of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe, the request of the Vice-President of the United States Joseph Biden concerning my ousting from the post of the Attorney General of Ukraine as a condition for the granting of financial (economic) assistance is qualified as pressure, which represents interference in the internal affairs of Ukraine on the part of a foreign power in violation of one of the principles of international law.

Moreover, the facts of pressure on me as Prosecutor General of Ukraine from Joseph Biden in the circumstances described above are confirmed by an independent journalistic investigation under the name “UkraineGate” conducted and published by the French online media “Les-Crises.fr” available at this link https://ukrainegate.info/part-2-not-so-dormant-investigations/
 

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But still, you post as much if not more than others... about Trump. You keep deliberately stepping in the shit that you say you have no time for. There is a system in place, it's called the impeachment process and it's playing out now. stly


Count the posts submitted by yourself, Anna Ember, Ocean Breeze and Cliffy about Trump and compare the number to the number of ones I've submitted. You'll also notice most of the posts I've submitted are in the response to the ones submitted by the afore named. I haven't even heard of a valid reason for impeaching Trump yet, but yet if it comes to pass it was be at horrendous financial cost. I don't particularly like the guy, but that doesn't get in the way of my recognizing the job he is trying to do.
 

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Well you certainly make it clear that you have no time for the man . But guess what , he is President and will still be tomorrow . And to make matters better , he probably will still be President this time next year . Enjoy the ride .


I'm glad to see someone commenting with a little common sense!
 

petros

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Wheels are falling off the band wagon
Tennessee State Rep. Micah Van Huss (R) on Wednesday proposed legislation in the state’s General Assembly which would recognize CNN and the Washington Post as “fake news.”

The filed bill brands CNN and the Post as both “fake news” and “part of the media wing of the Democratic Party.” The text also accuses the corporate media outlets of “denigrating our citizens and implying that they are weak-minded followers instead of people exercising their rights that our veterans paid for with their blood” — an apparent reference to a recent CNN segment, in which anchor Don Lemon and guests Rick Wilson and Wajahat Ali laughed and mocked Trump supporters as illiterate “credulous rubes.”
 

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If there are witnesses and they prove Trump innocent then it's over.


If there are witnesses and they prove Trump did what he's accused of, it won't matter, he'll still be President.


But.


In the matter of the second, it WILL affect the election somehow and that I think is what the GOP fears.
 

JLM

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If there are witnesses and they prove Trump innocent then it's over.


If there are witnesses and they prove Trump did what he's accused of, it won't matter, he'll still be President.


But.


In the matter of the second, it WILL affect the election somehow and that I think is what the GOP fears.


Impeachment is a political process, not a legal one!
 

Mockingbird

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Count the posts submitted by yourself, Anna Ember, Ocean Breeze and Cliffy about Trump and compare the number to the number of ones I've submitted. You'll also notice most of the posts I've submitted are in the response to the ones submitted by the afore named. I haven't even heard of a valid reason for impeaching Trump yet, but yet if it comes to pass it was be at horrendous financial cost. I don't particularly like the guy, but that doesn't get in the way of my recognizing the job he is trying to do.

Can you juggle while you back pedal too?
 

Mockingbird

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Tennessee State Rep. Micah Van Huss (R) on Wednesday proposed legislation in the state’s General Assembly which would recognize CNN and the Washington Post as “fake news.”
The filed bill brands CNN and the Post as both “fake news” and “part of the media wing of the Democratic Party.” The text also accuses the corporate media outlets of “denigrating our citizens and implying that they are weak-minded followers instead of people exercising their rights that our veterans paid for with their blood” — an apparent reference to a recent CNN segment, in which anchor Don Lemon and guests Rick Wilson and Wajahat Ali laughed and mocked Trump supporters as illiterate “credulous rubes.”


Micah Van Huss. The same guy that cites the Onion as a credible news source.

https://fox17.com/news/local/tennessee-lawmakers-cite-wikipedia-and-the-onion-while-debating-bill

https://twitter.com/MicahVanHuss/status/1222656020259966977
 
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Mockingbird

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If there are witnesses and they prove Trump innocent then it's over.
If there are witnesses and they prove Trump did what he's accused of, it won't matter, he'll still be President.
But.
In the matter of the second, it WILL affect the election somehow and that I think is what the GOP fears.


Trump will still be President, there is no doubt about that. And like you I agree that there are deeper waters that the GOP will find itself in beyond this trial.
 

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But still, you post as much if not more than others... about Trump. You keep deliberately stepping in the shit that you say you have no time for. There is a system in place, it's called the impeachment process and it's playing out now. Would you rather a leader have full unbridled power to do whatever he feels for his own personal gain? Should the USA do away with impeachment altogether? Should there be no checks and balances in place to protect democracy? And what price would you assign to be sure that democracy was protected?

Oh and you want to save the taxpayers a few bushels of money? I have a suggestion, how about take a closer look at just how much Trumps jungle gym, I mean border wall is costing the American taxpayers? A wall that can be scaled by an 8 year old or cut through with a $100 dollar reciprocating saw.

https://www.npr.org/2020/01/19/7973...-border-wall-would-be-the-world-s-most-costly
Fake news.