To IMPEACH ????

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The hatred of Trump is nauseating.
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Why is it my friend, that calling out Trump on his BS and holding him to task for some of his practices equates to hatred in the minds of those who support him. I don't hate Trump, how could I possibly as I have never met the man. No it has nothing to do with hating him, rather it has everything to do with questioning his actions, political and or personal, the later relating to personal attacks he imposes on anyone who dares to challenge him.

The conversation can't be so simplified as to say anyone in opposition to Trump is acting out from a place of hatred. That is a dangerous simplification as it blinds people from seeing facts and making informed opinions and decisions. Decisions like who to vote for. The typical dumbed-down response of "hater" to anyone who calls into question the actions of this man is a dismissive hair triggered response and comes across to me as an exit from the conversation when no valid counter argument can be made.
 
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350 health professionals sign letter to Congress claiming Trump's mental health is deteriorating dangerously amid impeachment proceedings


  • A petition signed by 350 psychiatrists and other mental-health professionals claiming that President Donald Trump's mental health is deteriorating rapidly amid impeachment proceedings is set to be submitted to Congress on Thursday.
  • "We are convinced that, as the time of possible impeachment approaches, Donald Trump has the real potential to become ever more dangerous, a threat to the safety of our nation," said Drs. Bandy Lee, a Yale psychiatrist, Jerrold Post, a former CIA profiler, and John Zinner, a psychiatrist at George Washington University.
  • The petition was first reported by the British news outlet The Independent.
  • Lee told The Independent that Trump appeared to be showing signs of delusion by doubling down on falsehoods and conspiracy theories.
A group of 350 psychiatrists and other mental-health professionals are set to submit a petition to Congress on Thursday claiming that President Donald Trump's mental health is rapidly deteriorating amid the impeachment inquiry.
"We are speaking out at this time because we are convinced that, as the time of possible impeachment approaches, Donald Trump has the real potential to become ever more dangerous, a threat to the safety of our nation," Drs. Bandy Lee, a Yale psychiatrist, Jerrold Post, a former CIA profiler, and John Zinner, a psychiatrist at George Washington University, wrote in a statement accompanying the petition, which was first reported by the British outlet The Independent.
They wrote that "failing to monitor or to understand the psychological aspects" of impeachment on Trump "or discounting them could lead to catastrophic outcomes."


More: https://www.businessinsider.com/psy...ng-trumps-mental-health-deteriorating-2019-12


This came before Trump decided to assassinate the Iranian general. Hmmmm.
 
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350 health professionals sign letter to Congress claiming Trump's mental health is deteriorating dangerously amid impeachment proceedings
  • A petition signed by 350 psychiatrists and other mental-health professionals claiming that President Donald Trump's mental health is deteriorating rapidly amid impeachment proceedings is set to be submitted to Congress on Thursday.
  • "We are convinced that, as the time of possible impeachment approaches, Donald Trump has the real potential to become ever more dangerous, a threat to the safety of our nation," said Drs. Bandy Lee, a Yale psychiatrist, Jerrold Post, a former CIA profiler, and John Zinner, a psychiatrist at George Washington University.
  • The petition was first reported by the British news outlet The Independent.
  • Lee told The Independent that Trump appeared to be showing signs of delusion by doubling down on falsehoods and conspiracy theories.
A group of 350 psychiatrists and other mental-health professionals are set to submit a petition to Congress on Thursday claiming that President Donald Trump's mental health is rapidly deteriorating amid the impeachment inquiry.
"We are speaking out at this time because we are convinced that, as the time of possible impeachment approaches, Donald Trump has the real potential to become ever more dangerous, a threat to the safety of our nation," Drs. Bandy Lee, a Yale psychiatrist, Jerrold Post, a former CIA profiler, and John Zinner, a psychiatrist at George Washington University, wrote in a statement accompanying the petition, which was first reported by the British outlet The Independent.
They wrote that "failing to monitor or to understand the psychological aspects" of impeachment on Trump "or discounting them could lead to catastrophic outcomes."
More: https://www.businessinsider.com/psy...ng-trumps-mental-health-deteriorating-2019-12
This came before Trump decided to assassinate the Iranian general. Hmmmm.
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Goldwater rule.
 
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Cliffy said:
350 health professionals sign letter to Congress claiming Trump's mental health is deteriorating dangerously amid impeachment proceedings


  • A petition signed by 350 psychiatrists and other mental-health professionals claiming that President Donald Trump's mental health is deteriorating rapidly amid impeachment proceedings is set to be submitted to Congress on Thursday.
  • "We are convinced that, as the time of possible impeachment approaches, Donald Trump has the real potential to become ever more dangerous, a threat to the safety of our nation," said Drs. Bandy Lee, a Yale psychiatrist, Jerrold Post, a former CIA profiler, and John Zinner, a psychiatrist at George Washington University.
  • The petition was first reported by the British news outlet The Independent.
  • Lee told The Independent that Trump appeared to be showing signs of delusion by doubling down on falsehoods and conspiracy theories.
A group of 350 psychiatrists and other mental-health professionals are set to submit a petition to Congress on Thursday claiming that President Donald Trump's mental health is rapidly deteriorating amid the impeachment inquiry.
"We are speaking out at this time because we are convinced that, as the time of possible impeachment approaches, Donald Trump has the real potential to become ever more dangerous, a threat to the safety of our nation," Drs. Bandy Lee, a Yale psychiatrist, Jerrold Post, a former CIA profiler, and John Zinner, a psychiatrist at George Washington University, wrote in a statement accompanying the petition, which was first reported by the British outlet The Independent.
They wrote that "failing to monitor or to understand the psychological aspects" of impeachment on Trump "or discounting them could lead to catastrophic outcomes."


More: https://www.businessinsider.com/psy...ng-trumps-mental-health-deteriorating-2019-12


This came before Trump decided to assassinate the Iranian general. Hmmmm.
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There never was an assassination!
 
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Cliffy said:
We put up with your hatred of Obama for 8 years +. Even today you keep harping on him. STFU!
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No Cliffy , Walter didn’t care for Obama , but he did not plaster every thread with the hateful , childish sh-t , you post 24/7 . It is not even close , and if I recall during the Obama years you were continually posting the same garbage aimed at all Republicans minus the Trump .
 
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No Cliffy , Walter didn’t care for Obama , but he did not plaster every thread with the hateful , childish sh-t , you post 24/7 . It is not even close , and if I recall during the Obama years you were continually posting the same garbage aimed at all Republicans minus the Trump .
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For a peace loving guy you sure hold an awful lot of hatred in your heart .
 
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Pelosi contradicts herself badly

McConnell will be 'accountable' to the American people: Nancy Pelosi

She said this

Pelosi said that she delayed sending over the articles because Democrats wanted the public to see the need for witnesses and called it "very unusual" that McConnell had signed on to a resolution to dismiss the impeachment.
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And then pivots and says this in the same interview

When Stephanopoulos pressed the speaker on the speed of the trial, asking why Democrats didn't wait for the courts to rule, Pelosi said she was confident in their case.
"How long do the courts take? We have confidence in our case that this is impeachable and the president is impeached for life, regardless of any gamesmenship on the part of Mitch McConnell," she said. "We're confident in the impeachment and we think that's enough testimony to remove him from office."
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Could Democrats be better off without impeachment witnesses?

WASHINGTON — Democrats may want to be careful what they wish for in demanding witnesses in President Donald Trump's Senate impeachment trial.
That's the warning some party strategists are sending as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., prepares to send two articles of impeachment and a roster of House prosecutors to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., later this week.
"Given where things stand right now, there's only one smart solution: Get out of this as quickly as possible," said Democratic strategist Chris Kofinis, former chief of staff for Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia.
The tension lies not in the facts of the case but in the politics of convincing voters that Trump is unfit for the presidency before November's election. Democrats are certain that the president violated his duty to the country and equally sure that there's zero chance that the necessary two-thirds of the Senate — a share that would require 20 or more Republicans — will vote to remove him from office.
The question for Democrats is whether the value of witnesses outweighs the risks.
The upside is the possibility that figures close to Trump, from acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney to former national security adviser John Bolton, could produce new evidence that would harm Trump in the eyes of the public.
But the perils include testimony adverse to Democrats' case, losing the opportunity to cast Senate Republicans in tough re-election campaigns as a cover-up squad for the president, and giving Trump a bigger platform to continue the guilt-by-aspersion campaign against former Vice President Joe Biden that triggered his impeachment in the first place.
Even if Trump advisers testify and Biden doesn't, a fight would give Trump a measure of what he wants — more attention on Biden and his son, Hunter Biden — and it's possible that witnesses called by Democrats would find ways, among them asserting executive privilege, to ensure that any testimony helps rather than harms the president.
"Anyone who thinks Bolton's going to turn on Trump is on drugs," Kofinis said.
In an ideal world for Democrats, a string of Trump's lieutenants would swear oaths to tell the truth and offer a litany of new details that would damn the president in the eyes of Republican senators and persuadable voters. Calls for the Bidens to testify would evaporate into the darkened cloud hanging over Trump's presidency.
That prospect — that there's more to be learned, none of it good for Trump — is the reason many Democrats are eager to press forward on securing testimony from the president's inner circle.
Republicans, who control the process in the Senate, appear to be moving forward on two tracks: McConnell says he has garnered the votes necessary to begin the trial without guaranteeing testimony, while Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, told NBC News last week that she is talking with GOP colleagues about a possible plan to vote to add witnesses later.
"I am hopeful that we can reach an agreement on how to proceed with the trial that will allow the opportunity for witnesses for both the House managers and the president's counsel if they choose to do so," she said. "It is important that both sides be treated fairly."
Collins, who is one of a handful of Republicans in hotly contested re-election campaigns, has a close relationship with McConnell, and her nod to witnesses important to the president's attorneys could easily be read as a reference to the Bidens. The theory of Trump's defense rests in part on the idea that pursuing investigations into the Bidens was less about securing his re-election at the expense of national security interests than it was about his international anti-corruption efforts.
Some Democrats see raising the prospect of calling Joe Biden or his son to testify as a threat that the president and his allies can't follow through on. The reasoning is that at least a small set of Republicans will decide that it would make a mockery of the Senate to force the testimony of figures who can't shed light on actions by the president that led to his impeachment.
"Democrats should not be cowed into dropping their demand for more witnesses," said Jim Manley, a top aide to Harry Reid, D-Nev., when Reid was the Senate majority leader. "There's not a snowball's chance in hell that there will be the votes necessary to call Hunter Biden, Joe Biden or anyone else, for that matter, who is not connected to Trump's abuse of power."
Manley acknowledged that Republicans aren't going to vote Trump out of office, but he said it's important for the public to hear as much as possible about what the president did.
"Even if Democrats got every witness they demanded, it is impossible for me to ever think that there will be the 67 votes needed to convict," he said. "They should make the best case they can and leave it to the American people to do the right thing and defeat Trump at the ballot box in November."
Republicans facing tough re-election bids have to be careful that voters in their own states don't blame them for failing to do their jobs well — by giving the president either too much cover or too little.
Ron Bonjean, a former Senate Republican leadership aide, said he doesn't see a majority of senators having the appetite for a sprawling witness list.
"It's going to come down to whether or not moderate Republicans join Democrats at calling witnesses," he said. "This means that the trial will most likely either proceed without witnesses or have only a few to hear from during the proceedings."
Witnesses could provide more detail, but it's unlikely that they would change the basic narrative.
Of course, it's possible that Democratic lawmakers are pressing for witnesses simply to set up the argument that Trump and Senate Republicans are covering up misconduct.
"If McConnell succeeds in making this trial a trial without witnesses, that's not a fair trial — that's a sham," House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, D-Calif., said Sunday on CBS' "Face the Nation."
But Schiff hasn't subpoenaed Bolton.
"It's certainly something that we are considering," he said.
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Source: NBC
 
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