To IMPEACH ????

Mockingbird

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Little piece of friendly advice for you. As soon as you start getting involved with a guy's family or friends you are in dangerous territory. Would his wife be willing to surrender the perks of first lady?


What you see as perks others may see as a burden. I can only imagine what it means to be the wife of such an impetuous (your descriptor, not mine) person the likes of Trump. Of course she being his wife knows the man in a way that no one else does. He may be a great husband, his past speaks otherwise, but we don't know.
 

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If you are asking if I believe that Trump is guilty of abuse of power and obstructing congress, then yes I do believe he is guilty. Will he be found guilty by the Senate? Well considering the fact that the Republicans control the Senate that's wishful thinking. What I would like to see though is a fair trial to take place for both sides, to see all the pertinent evidence and to hear from all witnesses who have testimony to offer. But again, it seems in a Republican controlled Senate, that too is unlikely.

Would you care to offer a counter argument to the information I supplied? Care to comment on Trumps (and seemingly yours) hypocrisy when it comes to nepotism re his children (and the children of his friends) vs the family members of Biden. I'll wait for that response.

Am I a triggered Liberal snowflake? If you find that appointing me as such somehow negates the points I have brought forward to counter your position then carry on. If, however, you would care to have a mature conversation, one where both sides offer points to consider and discuss, then you know where to find me.
Why did the House not do all the things you want prior to presenting the articles to the senate ? The democrats started on the impeachment train the day Trump won the election . Remember that one where the crown princess lost her slipper ? There is no crime , no bipartisan support , the whole thing is a shame , and the American public understand this .


By the way the only crime was committed by Joe Biden when he withheld aid to Ukraine for political favours . If he wins the nomination and the presidency expect instant impeachment.
 

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How was "grab them by the pussy" misrepresented by the press? He said it. I will give you family separation as yes there were protocols in place prior. Russian collusion? The summation of the Mueller Report did not exonerate Trump. Relentless attacks? Have you LOOKED at Trumps Twitter account? I think it is an easy conclusion that Trump himself is the most egregious when it comes to relentless attacks. I have no problem with a politician challenging the media, but do have a problem with the constant fake news accusations when truth is truth and facts are facts.
Why would I look at Trump’s twitter? Or anyone else for that matter ?
 

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How was "grab them by the pussy" misrepresented by the press? He said it. I will give you family separation as yes there were protocols in place prior. Russian collusion? The summation of the Mueller Report did not exonerate Trump. Relentless attacks? Have you LOOKED at Trumps Twitter account? I think it is an easy conclusion that Trump himself is the most egregious when it comes to relentless attacks. I have no problem with a politician challenging the media, but do have a problem with the constant fake news accusations when truth is truth and facts are facts.
ok , orange man bad , Hillary lost . So sad for your loss .
 

Mockingbird

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Why did the House not do all the things you want prior to presenting the articles to the senate ? The democrats started on the impeachment train the day Trump won the election . Remember that one where the crown princess lost her slipper ? There is no crime , no bipartisan support , the whole thing is a shame , and the American public understand this .
By the way the only crime was committed by Joe Biden when he withheld aid to Ukraine for political favours . If he wins the nomination and the presidency expect instant impeachment.


Again, care to respond to the issue of nepotism that you are vehemently opposed to when it comes to Biden but not to Trump?

A link regarding the house allowing witness testimony:

https://www.politifact.com/facebook...-media-posts-misrepresent-house-democrats-ru/
 

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What you see as perks others may see as a burden. I can only imagine what it means to be the wife of such an impetuous (your descriptor, not mine) person the likes of Trump. Of course she being his wife knows the man in a way that no one else does. He may be a great husband, his past speaks otherwise, but we don't know.


Realistically he can possibly satisfy at least 3/4 of her requirements!
 

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Hmmm.... For a guy that Trump claims he doesn't know anything about, Parnas sure had access to him and his inner circle. I especially like the personal thank you card to Parnas from Trump. The optics are bad.
https://www.businessinsider.com/giuliani-fixer-lev-parnas-photos-trump-family-2020-1

Like I said watch it fall apart

Dutch Trump fan says messages about U.S. ambassador’s movements were sent in jest

A Dutch supporter of President Trump said Saturday that he supplied a Republican candidate with purported intelligence on the movements of the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine last year, taking responsibility for text messages that raised concerns the diplomat was placed under surveillance.
But the supporter, Anthony De Caluwe, said in a statement that he was not involved in any surveillance of then-Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch, and that the messages were merely “ridiculous banter” with the congression*al candidate, Robert F. Hyde, who in recent days became entangled in the impeachment case against Trump.
“My engagement in this exchange with Rob is something that has no credibility,” De Caluwe said in the statement, which was emailed to The Washington Post by a spokeswoman. The spokeswoman, Karyn Turk, said that De Caluwe had never been to Ukraine and had no contacts in the country.
Text messages released Tuesday by the House Intelligence Committee showed Hyde passing purported details on Yovanovitch’s whereabouts in March of last year to Lev Parnas, a Ukrainian American associate of Trump’s personal attorney, Rudolph W. Giuliani. Parnas is under federal indictment for *alleged campaign finance crimes.
Additional material released late Friday by the committee indicated that the claims about Yovanovitch’s movements originated from a Belgian cellphone number. Some digits of the number were redacted, but the visible digits matched a number previously listed online as belonging to De Caluwe. An avatar accompanying the Belgian number in the released materials matched a photograph on De Caluwe’s Facebook page...…. Source: WaPo read More