Time For Don Cherry To Give Up The Pro-War Talk

talloola

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Cherry is on TV, that means many people take him very seriously. Hundreds of thousands of people watch him every week. Getting on TV is quite hard, most of us will never get on TV to talk about anything except a local fire/theft/crime, and then for about five seconds.

Getting on TV, the mass media, is no small feat and very few people get to do it on a regular basis. Cherry's been doing it for quite a while which I would guess he likes it and wants to keep his job. People debate Cherry's ideas, they don't debate most people's ideas. Cherry has influence in Canada and I want to restrict it to hockey.

and someday he will probably be voted as the best canadian, and it is because of his big mouth, which is
heard all over canada, probably from your next door neighbours radio even when you don't have yours on, that
is how loud he is on 'that' show.
there are so many people who should be voted best canadian who wouldn't be given the time of day, because
their voice has not been heard by enough people, yes TV goes a long way, and suck in a lot of people.
 

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Cherry is on TV, that means many people take him very seriously. Hundreds of thousands of people watch him every week. Getting on TV is quite hard, most of us will never get on TV to talk about anything except a local fire/theft/crime, and then for about five seconds.

Getting on TV, the mass media, is no small feat and very few people get to do it on a regular basis. Cherry's been doing it for quite a while which I would guess he likes it and wants to keep his job. People debate Cherry's ideas, they don't debate most people's ideas. Cherry has influence in Canada and I want to restrict it to hockey.

About as serious as Jack Tripper or Archie Bunker.
 

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I'm not into protesting the fallen, these guys don't completely understand the situation and see themselves as just doing a job. Going on foreign military adventures is more than building dams or infrastructure. Then I see the govt not giving soldiers inadequate medical care and support and I am shocked. These guys take a bullet and the govt abuses them. And right, from a war in Afghan the west and NATO have decided they can't win.

I totally support Canadian troops in the Arctic, and according to this poll in the article below, so do over 60% of the country. Cherry can go up north or to bases across Canada once in a while, I'm okay with that. Yet Cherry doesn't, why not? I heard him say one time that he loved queen Victoria. Sounds like an old blinkered British imperialist to me, I don't support that.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/opinion/arctic-security-means-more-than-arctic-sovereignty/article1882672/

Tony Penikett

Arctic security means more than Arctic sovereignty



So one guy needs work on the CBC, so ban it. Not a good plan.

I say that Cherry can support the troops once in a while, but he cannot use his whole segment to "support the troops." That's not what Coach's Corner is about. Considering how popular he is with the troops, he could start his own show supporting the troops and likely get great ratings. I don't care what network he is on. That would be okay with me.

But I don't like militaristic stuff during hockey games. Cherry is crossing a line here and some pushback is in order.

And hockey games aren't militaristic, all about tactics and clubbing each other trying to get a little rubber disk that is called a puck into a net. Knocking out teeth, nice peaceful sport fans feel disappointed if there is not at least one good fight. Like most sports just practice warfare when there is no real war to get into. Cherry's support of the troops should be commendable, not made fun of. By the way, I like hocky.

What good is sending troops into that Artic, not much going on up there, forming a quick response team to slow down an invasion or incursion would be much better.
 

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I can easily avoid Cherry's web site, I cannot so easily avoid HNIC or the CBC-especially when I'm paying for it. On his own time and dime, Cherry can support what he wants. That's not a fascist.


How about David Suzuki? Not only does he get the air-time, he is completely financed in developing his 1 hour propaganda series weekly that is little more than his personal soap-box.

Considering that you're upset that Cherry burns a whole 30 seconds of his 5 minutes of taxpayer sponsored air time on his hobby-horse, I'd imagine that you'd be rabid about Suzuki.
 

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How about David Suzuki? Not only does he get the air-time, he is completely financed in developing his 1 hour propaganda series weekly that is little more than his personal soap-box.

Considering that you're upset that Cherry burns a whole 30 seconds of his 5 minutes of taxpayer sponsored air time on his hobby-horse, I'd imagine that you'd be rabid about Suzuki.
Dr. David Suzuki is an internationally respected scientist who hosts an educational tv program. Don Cherry is an uneducated blowhard who had no real success in hockey as a player or a coach.

Dr. David Suzuki is an internationally respected scientist who hosts an educational tv program. Don Cherry is an uneducated blowhard who had no real success in hockey as a player or a coach.
NHL players have a minimum wage of $525,000.00 U.S. and most all stars are getting much more than that. For that kind of money I expect them to play hockey. There are few goons playing in the all star game so the "all stars" should be reasonably safe.
 

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And hockey games aren't militaristic, all about tactics and clubbing each other trying to get a little rubber disk that is called a puck into a net. Knocking out teeth, nice peaceful sport fans feel disappointed if there is not at least one good fight. Like most sports just practice warfare when there is no real war to get into. Cherry's support of the troops should be commendable, not made fun of. By the way, I like hocky.

What good is sending troops into that Artic, not much going on up there, forming a quick response team to slow down an invasion or incursion would be much better.

Football is the militaristic game, with formations, blitzes, and long bombs. Orders from coaches/commanders behind the lines-or rather from the sidelines controlling the action on the field. Hockey has become more American, more micromanaged than it was decades ago. A fight does not make a war. I turn the channel when a fight starts, they bore me now.

Cherry can support the troops, but briefly, not for a whole segment, that is too much. That is lackey pro-Americanism, pro-militarism and I think that's crap.

We do not patrol the Arctic. Because we are not aware of the nuclear subs going under the Arctic ice we lose our sovereignty in the eyes of international law. If you claim territory you have to know who is traversing on it, otherwise you do not have power over it. Simply making statements are not facts on the ground.
 

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Cherry can support the troops, but briefly, not for a whole segment, that is too much. That is lackey pro-Americanism, pro-militarism and I think that's crap.

I'll give you this Dump, you show perseverance, even in the face of overwhelming common sense. :)
 

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We do not patrol the Arctic. Because we are not aware of the nuclear subs going under the Arctic ice we lose our sovereignty in the eyes of international law. If you claim territory you have to know who is traversing on it, otherwise you do not have power over it. Simply making statements are not facts on the ground.

Nuclear subs traversing the Oceans is something we have no control over, if we did they would become useless. (not a bad idea) Try first controlling commercial traffic and see what the world will or won't allow you to do.

Territorial waters, or a territorial sea, as defined by the 1982 United Nations Convention of the Law of the Sea, is a belt of coastal waters extending at most 12 nautical miles (22 km; 14 mi) from the baseline (usually the mean low-water mark) of a coastal state. The territorial sea is regarded as the sovereign territory of the state, although foreign ships (both military and civilian) are allowed innocent passage through it; this sovereignty also extends to the airspace over and seabed below.

You have 12 nautical miles (22 km; 14 mi) from your coast. When it come to laws, you yourself must be able to enforce them if you exceed this.


 

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I'll give you this Dump, you show perseverance, even in the face of overwhelming common sense. :)

Wrongo, I have common sense because I know there are limits out there, Cherry is going way over the edge of common sense by continually pushing his imperialist militaristic agenda. Stick to puck stuff on CC, or get another show.

Nuclear subs traversing the Oceans is something we have no control over, if we did they would become useless. (not a bad idea) Try first controlling commercial traffic and see what the world will or won't allow you to do.

Territorial waters, or a territorial sea, as defined by the 1982 United Nations Convention of the Law of the Sea, is a belt of coastal waters extending at most 12 nautical miles (22 km; 14 mi) from the baseline (usually the mean low-water mark) of a coastal state. The territorial sea is regarded as the sovereign territory of the state, although foreign ships (both military and civilian) are allowed innocent passage through it; this sovereignty also extends to the airspace over and seabed below.

You have 12 nautical miles (22 km; 14 mi) from your coast. When it come to laws, you yourself must be able to enforce them if you exceed this.

I wrote UNDER the ice pack, which is within our territorial waters, not the high seas. Time for more monitoring there.
 

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And some people are too lazy to use the mute button, or get of their a$$ to go get another beer when Cherry's segment comes up;-)

Cherry is on the public airwaves, which means a debate is on here. No one needs to excuse theirself from it.If Cherry would keep on the topic, hockey, then there is nothing to debate. We always need to beat every other country in the world and Canucks have to win the cup this year. This is quite friendly fire.

But soldiers, armies, war, guns, military industrial complex, Afghanistan are volatile subjects of debate. Bring them up for discussion and return fire is coming. This is very unfriendly fire.
 

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Cherry is on the public airwaves, which means a debate is on here. No one needs to excuse theirself from it.If Cherry would keep on the topic, hockey, then there is nothing to debate. We always need to beat every other country in the world and Canucks have to win the cup this year. This is quite friendly fire.

But soldiers, armies, war, guns, military industrial complex, Afghanistan are volatile subjects of debate. Bring them up for discussion and return fire is coming. This is very unfriendly fire.

You seem to confuse what you want with what everyone else should get.

Well said.............
 

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Dr. David Suzuki is an internationally respected scientist who hosts an educational tv program. Don Cherry is an uneducated blowhard who had no real success in hockey as a player or a coach.


Suzuki's actions over the whole save-the-planet fiasco are an embarassment to Canada. This is the same guy that used a big/dirty diesel bus to travel across Canada to rail at the use of fossil fuels. He was also the same guy that was banging his drum about a new ice age not so many years ago.

He preys on the naive and gullible to fund the cause-du-jour.


NHL players have a minimum wage of $525,000.00 U.S. and most all stars are getting much more than that. For that kind of money I expect them to play hockey. There are few goons playing in the all star game so the "all stars" should be reasonably safe.


What a joke... You have a problem with a hockey player that is paid from the private sector and somehow this is justification why the tax payers should fund his personal opinions?
 

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#juan; NHL players have a minimum wage of $525 said:
I think you are totally missing the point of the all star game and break #Juan- it's meant as a diversion from their regular curriculum to "recharge their batteries", a few days off from the muscle pulling, ball breaking, head smashing,bone crushing routine. :lol:
 

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And some people are too lazy to use the mute button, or get of their a$$ to go get another beer when Cherry's segment comes up;-)

What and miss out on all the yelling at the tv? :lol:

Cherry is on the public airwaves, which means a debate is on here. No one needs to excuse theirself from it.If Cherry would keep on the topic, hockey, then there is nothing to debate. We always need to beat every other country in the world and Canucks have to win the cup this year. This is quite friendly fire.

But soldiers, armies, war, guns, military industrial complex, Afghanistan are volatile subjects of debate. Bring them up for discussion and return fire is coming. This is very unfriendly fire.

Whoa, if you talk outside your house then you are in public. If you only talk about what I want you to talk about then it's okay? You're bonkers man. Cherry can talk about what ever he wants on his show. You don't have to watch it. If you choose to watch it then you can't complain about what he says on his show. That you don't seem to grasp this concept easily is a bit disturbing.
 

talloola

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I think you are totally missing the point of the all star game and break #Juan- it's meant as a diversion from their regular curriculum to "recharge their batteries", a few days off from the muscle pulling, ball breaking, head smashing,bone crushing routine. :lol:

yeah, the problem here is 'that' many want the 82 games to be as they are, and they expect the all stars
to go to a 'showcase' celebration week-end, and play the same, totally ridiculous and impossible, but
I wonder why that particular type of fan can't also unwind and join in to the festivities and not
remain in the same mode as they are for league games, that puzzles me, perhaps it's because many
can't 'really see' the human side of the event at all, and don't want to.
I thoroughly enjoyed relaxing, and didn't have to sit on the edge of my seat wanting one side to win,
and not the other, enjoyed their stick handling, nifty passing, and how 'they' were enjoying themselves,
as we don't see that side of them all year.

oops, off topic,- just keep your voice down 'Cherry' and I will take out my ear plugs. lol
 

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Wrongo, I have common sense because I know there are limits out there, Cherry is going way over the edge of common sense by continually pushing his imperialist militaristic agenda. Stick to puck stuff on CC, or get another show.

Imperialist militaristic agenda


Okay, time to step away from the internet pal.