Three RCMP Shot Dead in Moncton NB
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No, I will not tolerate the spreading the American gun culture. None of your unsourced facts actually mean anything to the debate. They are just the copy and pasted nonsense you psychos post to make sense of your diverted *****-envy. Stop it. Your fantasy doesn't apply here. This isn't a blurry TV show from your childhood. We don't need guns. Overcompensate some other way.
Problem is most people with guns are responsible. I get that. Problem is identifying nutbars like this one, that have access to guns.
The 64 $ question is how to address addressed.
And it has to be addressed.
Check time of that to PM.. duh.
Can you please move this little pissing war to the PM's.. you don't have to continue to litter up a thread with your crying...
...and yes, I sent that PM.. in reply to your PM.. which I will take the high road and NOT post.. geeez
Loc removed the photo, on page 1 that you were crying about.. move on.
The US murder rate is lower than the world average, but very high for a developed country.
U.S. murder rate higher than nearly all other developed countries: FBI data
You any good Goober..
ANY NEW NEWS!!!! Have they captured or found this cop killer yet?? Anyone??
so then, do you think there shouldn't be any laws? and what idiotic and unconstitutional laws are in
place,(according to you), and the laws that over time could turn this lunacy around are not in place, so of course
they haven't done anything, as the biggest corporation in the world, NFA make sure of that.
of course if one decides to start killing others, not much can be done 'at first', but that isn't a
reason to support the epidemic of guns on the street, and easily obtained. just because criminals
do what they do, doesn't mean that 'we' just throw up our hands and accept that, but the truth is,
the powers like the NFA prevent a move in the right direction.
they are a power that control the governments, whatever one is in power, and the government wouldn't dare
to step 'up', because they are scared, they would be tromped on so hard, so they just back off and
live with it, a dirty rotton shame.
you must feel very good belonging to an organization so powerful that it has no predators at all,
except another person with a gun, then you can shoot it out.
it is so far past any sensible solution, so far into insanity, so far from any possible action being
taken from anyone trying to solve this issue, that we are just living a russian roulette type of life,
hoping the guns don't get fired our way, or into our children.
and the reply you will give me will prove that anything i have to say will be swallowed up so fast by
gun totin citizens stomping and pounding and shouting about 'their' rights.
I really don't think this is the time to be come out saying "told you so", especially when their conclusion is pretty debatable.
Who says that this means gun laws are pointless? Maybe we simply don't have the right ones in place.
For starters, everyone seems to agree that we don't want guns in the hands of people who are mentally ill. If we are ever going to achieve that, wouldn't something like a gun registry be pretty essential?
Translation: I've made up my mind.....don't confuse me with the facts.
I don't have ***** envy, being proudly in possession of one that does everything required of it in quite admirable fashion, thank you. And you??
I am certainly not a psycho, my mother had me checked.
And YOU don't need guns.
I do.
BTW, citations available on demand.
Here:
List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Compare it with this......see if you find any correlation:
Number of guns per capita by country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Spoiler: you won't, unless it is a NEGATIVE one.
Oh, and US murder rate history:
Homicide Rate (per 100,000), 1950–2012 | Infoplease.com
And the worst school killing, and the worst Canadian mass murder:
Bath School disaster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Blue Bird Café fire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I suggest next time you wish to pretend I can't back up what I say.........you don't.
Again, your analysis has a huge glaring problem in that you are not restricting it to comparable countries.
How developed a country is has a huge impact on both the number of homicides and the number of guns. You need to at very least pull that variable out.
Of course!!
I haven't cherry-picked it....that's the problem.
So, what is it about poorer nations that you think raises the murder rate?? Is it race?? Or the fact they are uncivilized??
A little elitist, don't you think??
And if it IS poverty that causes murder, why are we talking about guns??
Brazil: 6th largest economy on earth: murder rate 4 times that of the USA.
Bermuda: on the UN "most developed nation" list......murder rate twice that of the USA
Shall I go on??
But I doubt that is the kind of cherry-picking you wanted....
I think this guy has a plan. I remember Allan Legere and how long he evaded a massive & very intense search.
People as I know full well from being posted there after,slept with their weapons by their bed.
Allan Legere - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Read my link on Legere. Where he escaped from, the numbers looking for him, the murders he committed and how he was captured.
I have an RCMP friend in Moncton - she's fine, thankfully - so this has had me more than worried.
One week ago our town - Sackville - participated in an EMO exercise where the setting was a shooter at Mt. A campus. Simulated lockdown, death, an out of control fire... and then this happens.
So it's pretty fresh what something like this means not just to the police but a community as a whole.
I drove by Moncton twice today on my way to and from Saint John and even from the highway it was not the Moncton I know and recognize.
What is just totally pizing me off is the people posting police locations on 'social media'. It's people making up fake accounts to make an already emotional situation worse. It's the fact that while these police are putting their lives - obviously - on the line, people are STILL saying $hit about them.
It's easy for all of us, sitting in our homes away from all of this mess to say what we would or wouldn't do or turn it all around into the whole gun debate but the fact of the matter is three police officers - who yesterday put on their uniforms and believed it to be a regular day - are DEAD. They're dead and not going home to their families. They're dead because they dared TO put on that uniform to help keep all of us safe. They couldn't know yesterday was their last day in this world but in the back of their mind, being an officer, they had to know it might happen sometime.
These are people TRAINED to deal with situations that could take their lives, and they STILL ended up having their lives taken anyway, so none of us GET to say how "things would be different if..." because this person obviously had this day in mind for a while.
I personally think this is such a shock to us locally and the country as a whole because things like this AREN'T the normal for us. They just aren't. Oh there is shootings and people killed, sure, but three officers dead, two injured and someone loaded up to DO that job against them? That is not normal.
And it's in New-freakin-Brunswick! Moncton! Until now how many of you outside of the province even knew of a place NAMED Moncton in New Brunswick?
This morning I saw this on CNN's main page and people there were commenting on it as if it happened in the US and a few hinted at Canada "being like" the US. Well I don't WANT us to be like the US. I don't WANT us to be a nation where we are so afraid of every damned person outside our home - or sometimes even in our home - we only feel safe and secure with a firearm. I don't WANT us to be a country that has so little regard for its people that inanimate objects "Trump" people's rights to life.
I don't want us to be a nation that forgets the lives of those involved after the turn of a news cycle and instead focus' on how better to kill our fellow citizens.
I want us to be a nation that mourns the loss of three people who gave their lives to serve and protect. I want us to be a nation of sympathy for the men and women across our land who put on that same uniform and recognize that yes, they were family because only other officers can truly understand what's going on right now. I want us to be a people who come together until all this is over and forget for a moment our stupid issues about guns and focus instead on those who were affected and will need time to recover both mentally and physically.
THAT is the country, nation and people we should be. If we aren't, even for a moment, moved by any of this... then what kind of country and people ARE we...?
There is a lot of woods/parks in the area and I think he knows the area well. There's rumors of his having help too but who knows for sure.
I think he's playing cat and mouse with the police to help further show them his disgust by them, and with the area as populated as it is, the RCMP likely aren't taking risks to shoot unless they're sure it's safe.
One week ago our town - Sackville - participated in an EMO exercise where the setting was a shooter at Mt. A campus. Simulated lockdown, death, an out of control fire... and then this happens.
So it's pretty fresh what something like this means not just to the police but a community as a whole.
I drove by Moncton twice today on my way to and from Saint John and even from the highway it was not the Moncton I know and recognize.
What is just totally pizing me off is the people posting police locations on 'social media'. It's people making up fake accounts to make an already emotional situation worse. It's the fact that while these police are putting their lives - obviously - on the line, people are STILL saying $hit about them.
It's easy for all of us, sitting in our homes away from all of this mess to say what we would or wouldn't do or turn it all around into the whole gun debate but the fact of the matter is three police officers - who yesterday put on their uniforms and believed it to be a regular day - are DEAD. They're dead and not going home to their families. They're dead because they dared TO put on that uniform to help keep all of us safe. They couldn't know yesterday was their last day in this world but in the back of their mind, being an officer, they had to know it might happen sometime.
These are people TRAINED to deal with situations that could take their lives, and they STILL ended up having their lives taken anyway, so none of us GET to say how "things would be different if..." because this person obviously had this day in mind for a while.
I personally think this is such a shock to us locally and the country as a whole because things like this AREN'T the normal for us. They just aren't. Oh there is shootings and people killed, sure, but three officers dead, two injured and someone loaded up to DO that job against them? That is not normal.
And it's in New-freakin-Brunswick! Moncton! Until now how many of you outside of the province even knew of a place NAMED Moncton in New Brunswick?
This morning I saw this on CNN's main page and people there were commenting on it as if it happened in the US and a few hinted at Canada "being like" the US. Well I don't WANT us to be like the US. I don't WANT us to be a nation where we are so afraid of every damned person outside our home - or sometimes even in our home - we only feel safe and secure with a firearm. I don't WANT us to be a country that has so little regard for its people that inanimate objects "Trump" people's rights to life.
I don't want us to be a nation that forgets the lives of those involved after the turn of a news cycle and instead focus' on how better to kill our fellow citizens.
I want us to be a nation that mourns the loss of three people who gave their lives to serve and protect. I want us to be a nation of sympathy for the men and women across our land who put on that same uniform and recognize that yes, they were family because only other officers can truly understand what's going on right now. I want us to be a people who come together until all this is over and forget for a moment our stupid issues about guns and focus instead on those who were affected and will need time to recover both mentally and physically.
THAT is the country, nation and people we should be. If we aren't, even for a moment, moved by any of this... then what kind of country and people ARE we...?
There is a lot of woods/parks in the area and I think he knows the area well. There's rumors of his having help too but who knows for sure.
I think he's playing cat and mouse with the police to help further show them his disgust by them, and with the area as populated as it is, the RCMP likely aren't taking risks to shoot unless they're sure it's safe.