Thomas Mulcair, being "Thomas Mulcair"....

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Goober

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To those with cognitive disorder problems, if you can't accept the lessons provided by Econ 101 "demand drives up prices" and cannot accept Mulcair's assertion, how would you feel about a study that Mr. Harper asked Industry Canada to do?


Politics - The Globe and Mail

That is all.

And nothing about 2008-09-10 11- Nothing about the recession - Not a word on that. Not a word on US Companies relocating their manufacturing to the us for lower labor costs - energy costs. Nope - Nada on that as well.
And the textile industry took a major hit- why - labor intensive- Hard to compete with Vietnam- India - China - But we could if we paid the same wages-

Now - That is all - Got it.
 

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But wait, there's more.


Ralph Goodale has a few words for Thomas the neckbeard:


A week ago, NDP leader Thomas Mulcair started getting into hot water with remarks about resource developments in western Canada.

I thought by now he would have the sense to try to extricate himself.

Instead, he's repeating the poisonous notion that resource projects in the West are a "disease" doing damage to the national economy.

He depicts himself as a "victim," being "bullied" by western premiers. And he insults Premiers Wall, Redford and Clark as "messengers" for another bully, Stephen Harper.

This is astounding behaviour. It's clearly calculated to be hurtful. Different economists have different views about the interaction between resource developments and the manufacturing sector.

Most opinion suggests any negative impact on manufacturing is minor, and largely offset by the positive effects of resource projects on overall economic growth.

But whatever economic debate there might be, there is no doubt about the political implications of what many westerners are now calling the "Mulcair disease."

Can you imagine Mr. Mulcair attacking Ontario in such a demeaning fashion? Would he ever dismiss the premier of Quebec as he has the western premiers?

The point is clear. This man doesn't understand the subtleties and sensitivities of Canadian nation-building.

It's always a delicate work in progress. You can't take our national cohesion for granted. And you never pit region-against-region, or sector-against-sector.

This is not Mr. Mulcair's first offence. Remember, he's also against the Clarity Act.

Western elder-statesmen like Roy Romanow and the late Allan Blakeney understood how wrong this would be for Canada.

They also had a long history of defending western Canada's natural resources. Mulcair doesn't get it.

Ralph Goodale and Mp Deputy Leader Of The Liberal Party Of Canada




Federal NDP leader not understanding the West
 

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And nothing about 2008-09-10 11- Nothing about the recession - Not a word on that. Not a word on US Companies relocating their manufacturing to the us for lower labor costs - energy costs. Nope - Nada on that as well.
And the textile industry took a major hit- why - labor intensive- Hard to compete with Vietnam- India - China - But we could if we paid the same wages-

Now - That is all - Got it.
Good. :)

The question posed by the thread was strictly limited to the veracity of Mulcair's assertion that oil exports drive up demand for the Canadian dollar, thereby increasing the value of the dollar, thereby decreasing the competitiveness of manufacturers.

It had nothing to do with your latest 'posit'. It was not about labour costs, it was not about US manufacturing trends, it was not about anything in you latest 'posit.'If you want to keep moving the goalposts, start another thread, else keep on topic or gtfo. Thank you.

BTW given the tremendous quantity of your posts, might I suggest you get outside a little? Perhaps some fresh air would do wonders for you, who knows we might even be given an invaluable post or two.

hf, gl.
 

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The question posed by the thread was strictly limited to the veracity of Mulcair's assertion that oil exports drive up demand for the Canadian dollar, thereby increasing the value of the dollar, thereby decreasing the competitiveness of manufacturers.
If you say so. But it doesn't matter anyways.

It's been proven that Mulcair was talking out his ass.
 

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And nothing about 2008-09-10 11- Nothing about the recession - Not a word on that. Not a word on US Companies relocating their manufacturing to the us for lower labor costs - energy costs. Nope - Nada on that as well.
And the textile industry took a major hit- why - labor intensive- Hard to compete with Vietnam- India - China - But we could if we paid the same wages-

Now - That is all - Got it.

Guess you did not like my comment- Oh my
 

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Get some fresh air Goober, even volunteers with the United Jewish Appeal require a break.


If you say so. But it doesn't matter anyways.

It's been proven that Mulcair was talking out his ass.
Those who follow dogma won't listen to reason.

Here's Harper's own commissioned study:

Politics - The Globe and Mail

Next time read the thread, else you'll appear to be a douchebag.


That is all.
 

CDNBear

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Those who follow dogma won't listen to reason.
You being a big shiny example.

Here's Harper's own commissioned study:

Politics - The Globe and Mail
Awesome, here's a Macleans article that puts that baby to bed and shows how Mulcair is talking out his ass...

So much for Dutch disease - Opinion - Macleans.ca

Enjoy.

Next time read the thread, else you'll appear to be a douchebag.
I did. That's how I knew it was proven that Mulcair was talking out his ass, and people like you that follow dogma, won't listen to reason.

That is all.
True to your form, not much.
 

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That you would hold up an article by Maclean's as somehow being authoritative, (protip: Maclean's was long ago dismissed as a journalistic corporate rag) while dismissing Industry Canada's own study tells me all I need to know about your level of comprehension, your ability to reason critically, and your integrity in pursuing truth. Good day to you and good riddance.

That is all. :)
 

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That you would hold up an article by Maclean's as somehow being authoritative, (protip: Maclean's was long ago dismissed as a journalistic corporate rag) while dismissing Industry Canada's own study tells me all I need to know about your level of comprehension, your ability to reason critically, and your integrity in pursuing truth. Good day to you and good riddance.
All you had to say was you didn't understand what was offered. You didn't have to go and make up a whole song and dance, to get out of either countering it or refuting the actual article.

You could have at least read the article. That way you wouldn't have looked like such a douchebag, while you dismissed the source instead of refuting the content.

But then you dogma following, unreasonable people, wouldn't be such a hoot, would you.

That is all.
And as usual, you didn't offer much, other than a stellar glimpse into your limited level of comprehension, your inability to reason critically, and your complete lack of integrity in pursuing anything even remotely resembling the truth.
 
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Re: Stéphane Dion criticizes Thomas Mulcair for East-West strategy

Yes.

And the illogical and frenzied response of the contrarians last week is a perfect example of McCarthyism.

Mulcair and energy McCarthyism

The high-and-mighty vitriol which greeted Tom Mulcair's comments last week about the downside of oil-powered currency appreciation is lamentable (repeating the over-the-top reaction to Dalton McGuinty's similar comments a few weeks ago). Mulcair made two modest and empirically substantiated statements: the loonie is sky-high as a result of the oil boom in Alberta's bitumen sands (I doubt you'd find a single currency trader on Bay Street who would disagree with that), and that overvaluation is causing negative side-effects on other industries and regions in Canada.

And the lower American dollar has nothing whatsoever to do with this either eh? Verrrry interrestink!
 

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Re: Stéphane Dion criticizes Thomas Mulcair for East-West strategy

Now there may be valid reasons for this - But the majority of people I know that did this could not manage money.

Thomas Mulcair has remortgaged his home 11 times since 1980s | News | National Post

OTTAWA — New Democratic Party leader Thomas Mulcair and his wife have repeatedly refinanced their home west of Montreal, gradually increasing the debt on the property over a series of 11 mortgages, land records show.

Mulcair’s office will not explain why the couple have loaded more and more financing onto the home they’ve lived in since the early 1980s, saying only that it’s a “private matter.”

It is unclear why Mulcair would need to refinance the modest two-garage home in Beaconsfield so many times, bumping the value of the mortgage from $58,000 to $300,000.
 

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Re: Stéphane Dion criticizes Thomas Mulcair for East-West strategy

Now there may be valid reasons for this - But the majority of people I know that did this could not manage money.

Thomas Mulcair has remortgaged his home 11 times since 1980s | News | National Post

OTTAWA — New Democratic Party leader Thomas Mulcair and his wife have repeatedly refinanced their home west of Montreal, gradually increasing the debt on the property over a series of 11 mortgages, land records show.

Mulcair’s office will not explain why the couple have loaded more and more financing onto the home they’ve lived in since the early 1980s, saying only that it’s a “private matter.”

It is unclear why Mulcair would need to refinance the modest two-garage home in Beaconsfield so many times, bumping the value of the mortgage from $58,000 to $300,000.
Seems logical to me, if I use Dipper logic.

But I'm sure there's an excellent reason for it, seriously.
 

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Re: Stéphane Dion criticizes Thomas Mulcair for East-West strategy

Seems logical to me, if I use Dipper logic.

But I'm sure there's an excellent reason for it, seriously.

Long term low interest mortgage- 4.99 for 10 years - yes - But as you state - may be good reasons for it. If invested - Wonder what stocks he bought????
 

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Re: Stéphane Dion criticizes Thomas Mulcair for East-West strategy

Long term low interest mortgage- 4.99 for 10 years - yes - But as you state - may be good reasons for it. If invested - Wonder what stocks he bought????
Rolled over into home improvements? Education for the kids?

An over $200,000 increase, seems pretty harsh though. But not completely out of the realm of possibility.

All things considered though, it's seem to be pretty poor financial planning.
 

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Hmm.. while I don't think this personal stuff is appropriate, it was used against the conservatives e.g. Guergis and Toews, so I suppose it's okay to use on Mulcair.

Maybe the newscaster who thought the ethics commissioner should be called on on Guergis would want him called in on this ?
 

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Hmm.. while I don't think this personal stuff is appropriate, it was used against the conservatives e.g. Guergis and Toews, so I suppose it's okay to use on Mulcair.

Maybe the newscaster who thought the ethics commissioner should be called on on Guergis would want him called in on this ?

Yep, it's OK- that guy has been yapping every since he won the leadership and hasn't come up for a breath since. I bet Layton is turning in his grave!