Thief who ‘robbed pensioner with knife’ is stripped and clingfilmed to post

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A mob dished out some very sweaty justice to an alleged thief who was spotted attempting to rob a pensioner with a knife – he was stripped naked, then wrapped head to foot in clingfilm and tied to a lamppost.


People took photographs as 32-year-old Valentino Abeyta Barrera sweltered in Chilean capital Santiago’s 27-degree heat, with his underpants around his ankles.


He was left for 20 minutes before police arrived – and the alleged thief refused to explain why he was there, begging the police to free him.


The photographs stirred up discussion online about vigilante justice – and Barrera was freed, as his alleged victim did not make a complaint to police


One commenter, Daniela Montoya Pazo said: ‘They just had to arrest him, not beat him. This kind of things put us at the same level as the criminals.’




Thief who 'robbed pensioner with knife' is stripped naked and clingfilmed to a lamppost | Metro News

Another, Daichi Yuka, said: ‘I would like to do the same thing to the thief who threatened me with a weapon this morning.’

 

[Sal]

I am divided on vigilante justice because most times it goes too far.

However in this case it did not go too far. The public humiliation and the fear he experienced will leave a lasting impression upon him.

I am curious about the 20 minute arrival time of the police. I wonder if the call was placed about a pensioner being robbed at knife point or a nekkid person saran-wrapped to a pole.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

I am divided on vigilante justice because most times it goes too far.

However in this case it did not go too far. The public humiliation and the fear he experienced will leave a lasting impression upon him.

I am curious about the 20 minute arrival time of the police. I wonder if the call was placed about a pensioner being robbed at knife point or a nekkid person saran-wrapped to a pole.

Might be tied to fresh coffee and doughnuts being dispensed at the local coffee shop causing the police to happen that way.

 

[SLM]

I can never get behind vigilante justice. I can certainly understand the compulsion or the feelings of wanting to do it. But just the notion that any one individual or small group of individuals can sit in judgement of someone just rings wrong to me. There is an over whelming arrogance to it that I just can't see past.

Yes we pronounce judgement in the justice system, absolutely, upon those who have wronged society but we do so based upon pretty carefully laid out laws, not based on emotional reaction.

 

[Sal]

Might be tied to fresh coffee and doughnuts being dispensed at the local coffee shop causing the police to happen that way.

lol...might could be that eh?

 

[Praxius]

I can never get behind vigilante justice. I can certainly understand the compulsion or the feelings of wanting to do it. But just the notion that any one individual or small group of individuals can sit in judgement of someone just rings wrong to me. There is an over whelming arrogance to it that I just can't see past.

Yes we pronounce judgement in the justice system, absolutely, upon those who have wronged society but we do so based upon pretty carefully laid out laws, not based on emotional reaction.

Vigilante Justice?

One could say they wanted to restrain him until the police arrived, removed his clothing in order to ensure no weapons were present and the photos taken were merely a means of collecting evidence.

While it is nice and happy to say that the legal system should always be used to seek justice, the fact of the matter is that these people and many like them around the world live in areas where police take forever to arrive and the justice system has no teeth.

A perfect example is India with all the crap happening with women and girls being raped. One recent report noted that one girl fought off her attackers which lead to her being set on fire by her attackers and she died.

Then there's that whole thing about the two girls who were raped and found hung from a tree. Recent news reports said that despite everything said and reported before of them being raped and killed, the justice system passed the whole thing off as they were never raped and they both simply committed suicide..... And that's that.

Point being is that when you live in a society where the police don't protect you, the justice system leaves you out in the cold all too often and you face being robbed at knife point or raped or killed almost every day you step outside.... Sometimes the only thing you have left is vigilante justice to fight back.

We in our nations have come to expect that when we are in trouble, the police, paramedics/ambulances and fire department are just a couple of minutes away and that the system runs in a way that we can "usually" have confidence in the right thing being done..... But many others do not have that luxury.

Now one could say that if the system is that bad for them then they should speak out and do something about it so the government changes how things run.... But I'm more than sure they have many times over the years with no positive results, so you're left with few options.

 

[SLM]

Vigilante Justice?

One could say they wanted to restrain him until the police arrived, removed his clothing in order to ensure no weapons were present and the photos taken were merely a means of collecting evidence.

I was making a general statement, not referring specifically to that.

While it is nice and happy to say that the legal system should always be used to seek justice, the fact of the matter is that these people and many like them around the world live in areas where police take forever to arrive and the justice system has no teeth.

A perfect example is India with all the crap happening with women and girls being raped. One recent report noted that one girl fought off her attackers which lead to her being set on fire by her attackers and she died.

Then there's that whole thing about the two girls who were raped and found hung from a tree. Recent news reports said that despite everything said and reported before of them being raped and killed, the justice system passed the whole thing off as they were never raped and they both simply committed suicide..... And that's that.

Point being is that when you live in a society where the police don't protect you, the justice system leaves you out in the cold all too often and you face being robbed at knife point or raped or killed almost every day you step outside.... Sometimes the only thing you have left is vigilante justice to fight back.

We in our nations have come to expect that when we are in trouble, the police, paramedics/ambulances and fire department are just a couple of minutes away and that the system runs in a way that we can "usually" have confidence in the right thing being done..... But many others do not have that luxury.

Now one could say that if the system is that bad for them then they should speak out and do something about it so the government changes how things run.... But I'm more than sure they have many times over the years with no positive results, so you're left with few options.

Yeah, I get it and as I said, I understand the compulsion and emotional drive behind it all. Having said that though, how often do vigilante mobs get it wrong too? I mean, just look at the mob in Ferguson destroying the very foundations of their own community to lash out at what they say is another community. That's mob mentality and there really is no logic or reasoning behind it. Now put that into a society where there are laws and a justice system, flawed as it may be at times, and that is something that I absolutely cannot support. Period, end of story, no support. Put that into the hands of a group in a less lawful society, or less fairly lawful society as you've mentioned and I understand it, the drive behind it, but is it justice or retribution? How diligently do they care if they get the right guy to punish or just punish someone because they feel someone should be punished?

 

[Walter]

Serves him right. Good on the clever folks who did this. Must have been Tea Party people.

 

[bill barilko]

Thievery is a serious problem in Santiago

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9kzFeuDG7g[//youtube]

In defence of the victim in the first case he probably doesn't want anything to do with the police or justice system.

I mean why is crime so high in Santiago?

Because the job isn't being done by those in charge that's why.

 

[Sal]

Thievery is a serious problem in Santiago

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9kzFeuDG7g[//youtube]

In defence of the victim in the first case he probably doesn't want anything to do with the police or justice system.

I mean why is crime so high in Santiago?

Because the job isn't being done by those in charge that's why.

wow, the cops were right there waiting for his exit

 

[bill barilko]

In defence of the robbery victim in the first case the reason he didn't want to press charges is because he has no confidence in the police or the justice system.

Why is crime so high in Santiago?

Because the job isn't being done that's why.

 

[Goober]

Vigilante Justice?

One could say they wanted to restrain him until the police arrived, removed his clothing in order to ensure no weapons were present and the photos taken were merely a means of collecting evidence.

While it is nice and happy to say that the legal system should always be used to seek justice, the fact of the matter is that these people and many like them around the world live in areas where police take forever to arrive and the justice system has no teeth.

A perfect example is India with all the crap happening with women and girls being raped. One recent report noted that one girl fought off her attackers which lead to her being set on fire by her attackers and she died.

Then there's that whole thing about the two girls who were raped and found hung from a tree. Recent news reports said that despite everything said and reported before of them being raped and killed, the justice system passed the whole thing off as they were never raped and they both simply committed suicide..... And that's that.

Point being is that when you live in a society where the police don't protect you, the justice system leaves you out in the cold all too often and you face being robbed at knife point or raped or killed almost every day you step outside.... Sometimes the only thing you have left is vigilante justice to fight back.

We in our nations have come to expect that when we are in trouble, the police, paramedics/ambulances and fire department are just a couple of minutes away and that the system runs in a way that we can "usually" have confidence in the right thing being done..... But many others do not have that luxury.

Now one could say that if the system is that bad for them then they should speak out and do something about it so the government changes how things run.... But I'm more than sure they have many times over the years with no positive results, so you're left with few options.

Agreed, where the police and judiciary are corrupt, people will yield to this type of justice.

Though I would hope the next time they use duct tape, including his genital area and that he is a very hairy man.

 

[The Old Medic]

If some thief with a knife attempt to rob me, I will blow them away with my .44 Caliber pistol. Or, if they are young, I might just beat the crap out of them with it.

I may be a pensioner, but I am still a soldier at heart, and in pretty damn good shape. And I can still shoot, VERY accurately!

 

[darkbeaver]

If some thief with a knife attempt to rob me, I will blow them away with my .44 Caliber pistol. Or, if they are young, I might just beat the crap out of them with it.

I may be a pensioner, but I am still a soldier at heart, and in pretty damn good shape. And I can still shoot, VERY accurately!

Go for a leg shot first if you're very accurate. It might save you money.

 

[taxslave]

Go for a leg shot first if you're very accurate. It might save you money.

Makes them easier to catch to administer justice anyway.