The Truth about Residential Schools.

Taxslave2

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Wait. . . they ADMITTED it? Wow.
The band did. The white apologists are insisting on a law that makes it illegal to question the narrative. It was mostly MSM that started the story of mass graves. The guy running the GPR said anomalies. CBC and a couple of other media companies on the dole that changed anomalies to unmarked graves. Naturally, the people that live off government grants are opposed to actually digging to prove the claim.
 

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Only a lawyer could possibly think there is a difference between them.
Yeah, we specialize in creating, and destroying, wordgames that try to bend things.

For example, "Average global temperatures have risen by 1.5 degrees Celsius since 1966" is a fact (if true, I have no idea).

"If we don't tax the piss out of gasoline, we're all gonna die!" is a "truth."

The latter has nothing to do with the former.
 

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And, I'm beginning to wonder if it was REALLY as bad as they say. Now, I'm not saying there wasn't some bad stuff happening - I wasn't there so I don't know. BUT there are those who attended who say that they were not forced to attend & actually are glad that they did.

So, who is right? People that say their relatives had reported that they suffered a lot OR those who attended that say it wasn't as bad as they say it was. Will we EVER get this right? Will we EVER be able to get politics out of this whole scene so we can put things to rest? I don't know the answer, but this "blaming" and laws against expressing ones opinion has got to stop.
I personally know several people that were in residential schools. They are all late 50s to early 70s time frame. The best answer I can come up with is that it totally depended on who was in control at specific schools and at what time. None that I know admit to sexual abuse, but discipline was often harsh. OTH I attended public schools in that time and discipline was often harsh there as well. Sexual abuse happened there as well.
 

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The best answer I can come up with is that it totally depended on who was in control at specific schools and at what time. None that I know admit to sexual abuse, but discipline was often harsh. OTH I attended public schools in that time and discipline was often harsh there as well. Sexual abuse happened there as well.
You mean. . . it depended largely upon the personalities of the staff members and the quality of the leadership?

But. . . but. . . that's really hard to fit on a protest sign!
 

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I personally know several people that were in residential schools. They are all late 50s to early 70s time frame. The best answer I can come up with is that it totally depended on who was in control at specific schools and at what time. None that I know admit to sexual abuse, but discipline was often harsh. OTH I attended public schools in that time and discipline was often harsh there as well. Sexual abuse happened there as well.
Much of the abuse was older students on younger students and inter tribal .
 

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Really? I guess we owe the priests an apology.
Did I say that ? Are you suggesting there is no basis for my comment ? Were there non secular employees in the system that were child predators ? It was not only sexually depressed priests that preyed on their wards . Putting the blame on one group allows the others to skate under the radar .
 

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Did I say that ? Are you suggesting there is no basis for my comment ? Were there non secular employees in the system that were child predators ? It was not only sexually depressed priests that preyed on their wards . Putting the blame on one group allows the others to skate under the radar .
Sexually depressed as in Pedophiles?
 
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The band did. The white apologists are insisting on a law that makes it illegal to question the narrative. It was mostly MSM that started the story of mass graves. The guy running the GPR said anomalies. CBC and a couple of other media companies on the dole that changed anomalies to unmarked graves. Naturally, the people that live off government grants are opposed to actually digging to prove the claim.
So. . . your problem with Injuns is mostly with White people?
 

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So. . . your problem with Injuns is mostly with White people?
I don't have a problem with natives. I do have a problem with people (mostly white) that perpetuate the Indian industry. And a few of the band leadership that have figured out how to game the system. Like how does the chief of a very remote band own 3 seine boats while most of the rest of the villiage lives on welfare? I have worked on probably a dozen reserves over the years, most were a plane ride from anything. The tax money that is wasted by the system could cure the poverty on every rez.
 

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I don't have a problem with natives. I do have a problem with people (mostly white) that perpetuate the Indian industry. And a few of the band leadership that have figured out how to game the system. Like how does the chief of a very remote band own 3 seine boats while most of the rest of the villiage lives on welfare? I have worked on probably a dozen reserves over the years, most were a plane ride from anything. The tax money that is wasted by the system could cure the poverty on every rez.
In a different industry in what seems like a lifetime ago, I’ve been on 68 reserves (I actually counted them), & most of those repeatedly, and the stories of the things I’d seen & done would read like fiction. Empathy on your statement.
 

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Exactly , but they weren’t the only ones . Tell me otherwise .
I remember pedos being outed in Scouts , Cadets , figure skating , gymnastics among others and none were priests . The Catholic Church have been wrestling with the homosexual issues since its inception , why do you think they had monks and nuns , if not to bury the issue and keep them out of sight ?
 
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I don't have a problem with natives. I do have a problem with people (mostly white) that perpetuate the Indian industry. And a few of the band leadership that have figured out how to game the system. Like how does the chief of a very remote band own 3 seine boats while most of the rest of the villiage lives on welfare? I have worked on probably a dozen reserves over the years, most were a plane ride from anything. The tax money that is wasted by the system could cure the poverty on every rez.
You mean. . . Indians can be greedy and corrupt?

Oh, dearie me. Whatever is to be done to bring them into full and equal partnership in modern Canada (or America)?

Here's a crazy idea. . . treat them by law, including funding and financial law, like everybody else? Let them be like the descendants of the Italians, and the Irish, and the Blacks, and. . . whatever. Impose stiff criminal and civil penalties for discrimination. Fund poor people and poor communities based on their poverty, not on their skin color or origins.

I know, crazy, enit?

The one place I've been that was the most egalitarian and meritocratic (except for combat billets and all the benefits that come from serving in them) was the Air Force. If the cutoff for promotion was 82nd percentile on the list, that's what it was for White men. For non-whites and women, it was 82nd percentile. And the top ranks were disproportionately White men. But they won't be in 50 years.
 

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There is no denying that horrible shit happened at the residential schools, but the propaganda surrounding this detracts from the actual issue.

Now, activists want it to be against the law to question anything.

If they get their way.

This video would be illegal to post.

The "mass grave" is nonsense as is the whole story. It's false!!
 
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Big picture-wise, Murray isn’t just asking for more money and state benefits. Her arguments point to the withdrawal of the Canadian state from Indigenous bubbles of sovereignty, which currently exist only in the minds of decolonial scholar-activists — or permanent compensation for occupying these (again, fictional) bubbles of sovereignty.

If you read her words carefully, you’ll find there is no end-point to the genocide she claims is ongoing. Genocide is a product of the interaction between the colonial state and its Indigenous subjects, which means the demand for concessions will never end. What’s demanded is an endless stream of tribute payments.

She probably won’t get it right away. But don’t be surprised when the special interlocutor’s final report becomes a much-cited footnote used to support future “evidence-based” acts of decolonization.
(Oh, and if this re-education campaign makes anyone feel bad, even their emotions need adjustment)

She wants to bring in the International Criminal Court to investigate Canada and possibly prosecute government officials for “enforced disappearances.”

She also wants “long-term, sustainable, flexible” funding to repatriate bodies in graves which have yet to be found — more of it, that is.

“In alignment with Indigenous self-determination and sovereignty, the federal government must support the Survivors, Indigenous families, and communities who are leading or wish to lead, these investigations, without interference or intimidation,” she writes. As of March, $217 million has gone towards the grave search; no bodies have been recovered, etc…
I doubt if the money will or has ever see any graves being dug up. The money has gone to the chiefs & their families. There's no accountability so these people will continue to get away with fraud. This is absolutely disgusting.
 
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There is no denying that horrible shit happened at the residential schools, but the propaganda surrounding this detracts from the actual issue.

Now, activists want it to be against the law to question anything.

If they get their way.

This video would be illegal to post.

Catholics apologized for absolutely no reason. Why was that? Just because someone calls you a racist or bigot doesn't mean you are one & you need to just let it go. I don't care if someone calls me any of those things because I KNOW WHO I AM!!