The Truth about Residential Schools.
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Big picture-wise, Murray isn’t just asking for more money and state benefits. Her arguments point to the withdrawal of the Canadian state from Indigenous bubbles of sovereignty, which currently exist only in the minds of decolonial scholar-activists — or permanent compensation for occupying these (again, fictional) bubbles of sovereignty.
If you read her words carefully, you’ll find there is no end-point to the genocide she claims is ongoing. Genocide is a product of the interaction between the colonial state and its Indigenous subjects, which means the demand for concessions will never end. What’s demanded is an endless stream of tribute payments.
She probably won’t get it right away. But don’t be surprised when the special interlocutor’s final report becomes a much-cited footnote used to support future “evidence-based” acts of decolonization.
Jamie Sarkonak: The special interlocutor's plan for abolishing Canada — National Post
Kimberly Murray wants to bring in Indigenous law, 'decolonize' empathy and imprison 'denialists'
She wants to bring in the International Criminal Court to investigate Canada and possibly prosecute government officials for “enforced disappearances.”
She also wants “long-term, sustainable, flexible” funding to repatriate bodies in graves which have yet to be found — more of it, that is.
“In alignment with Indigenous self-determination and sovereignty, the federal government must support the Survivors, Indigenous families, and communities who are leading or wish to lead, these investigations, without interference or intimidation,” she writes. As of March, $217 million has gone towards the grave search; no bodies have been recovered, etc…
Say that out loud in today's climate, and people will call you racist.Big picture-wise, Murray isn’t just asking for more money and state benefits. Her arguments point to the withdrawal of the Canadian state from Indigenous bubbles of sovereignty, which currently exist only in the minds of decolonial scholar-activists — or permanent compensation for occupying these (again, fictional) bubbles of sovereignty.
If you read her words carefully, you’ll find there is no end-point to the genocide she claims is ongoing. Genocide is a product of the interaction between the colonial state and its Indigenous subjects, which means the demand for concessions will never end. What’s demanded is an endless stream of tribute payments.
She probably won’t get it right away. But don’t be surprised when the special interlocutor’s final report becomes a much-cited footnote used to support future “evidence-based” acts of decolonization.
(Oh, and if this re-education campaign makes anyone feel bad, even their emotions need adjustment)
Jamie Sarkonak: The special interlocutor's plan for abolishing Canada — National Post
Kimberly Murray wants to bring in Indigenous law, 'decolonize' empathy and imprison 'denialists'apple.news
She wants to bring in the International Criminal Court to investigate Canada and possibly prosecute government officials for “enforced disappearances.”
She also wants “long-term, sustainable, flexible” funding to repatriate bodies in graves which have yet to be found — more of it, that is.
“In alignment with Indigenous self-determination and sovereignty, the federal government must support the Survivors, Indigenous families, and communities who are leading or wish to lead, these investigations, without interference or intimidation,” she writes. As of March, $217 million has gone towards the grave search; no bodies have been recovered, etc…
I hope so. Thats means they heard you and dont have a an arguement to defend with.
She doesn't actually want to exhume any bodies, or indeed even let archaeologists explore the claimed graves. What she wants is a combined make work projects where real jobs are scarce, and to keep white guilt alive for future funding demands.
They better hurry up , white guilt will lose its lustre as our populations demographic becomes less white .
The UN defines genocide as an intentional act. One can very reasonably argue that the residential schools post Egerton Ryerson were a result of horribly misguided govt policy.
Ryerson's schools were purely voluntary. Parents had 100% guardianship/trusteeship over any children they had in the schools and could remove them at any time without issue. The principle behind the schools was to give the kids a "modern" education to complement their traditional knowledge base, not replace it.
The results may have been positive enough that when Ryerson died and the govt took over the system they made attendance mandatory thinking they were doing something good.
As for the abuse, a product of the times really. My father grew up in an orphanage in the 1920s and '30s and the stories he told me were really not any different than the stories from the residential schools. Both were run by churches for the most part so all that abuse was just "tough love".
Ryerson's schools were purely voluntary. Parents had 100% guardianship/trusteeship over any children they had in the schools and could remove them at any time without issue. The principle behind the schools was to give the kids a "modern" education to complement their traditional knowledge base, not replace it.
The results may have been positive enough that when Ryerson died and the govt took over the system they made attendance mandatory thinking they were doing something good.
As for the abuse, a product of the times really. My father grew up in an orphanage in the 1920s and '30s and the stories he told me were really not any different than the stories from the residential schools. Both were run by churches for the most part so all that abuse was just "tough love".
The truly fucked thing is when it comes to Kamloops in particular the group that made the initial "mass grave" claim has completely distanced themselves from said claim and admitted they jumped the gun. But it still won't die because extremists will do whatever they can to bury inconvenient truths and facts to keep the lie alive.
The church also likes to bury lies and has a solid track record.
But I agree with the priest; there can be no reconciliation without truth.
I do, yes. Semantics (apparently a curse word to many) is grounded on the proposition that words have meanings, and that twisting them to make something appear other than what it is is an error.
I understand. It takes effort to speak clearly, factually, and specifically. Far easier to say "She's a cunt" and press on.
And, I'm beginning to wonder if it was REALLY as bad as they say. Now, I'm not saying there wasn't some bad stuff happening - I wasn't there so I don't know. BUT there are those who attended who say that they were not forced to attend & actually are glad that they did.
So, who is right? People that say their relatives had reported that they suffered a lot OR those who attended that say it wasn't as bad as they say it was. Will we EVER get this right? Will we EVER be able to get politics out of this whole scene so we can put things to rest? I don't know the answer, but this "blaming" and laws against expressing ones opinion has got to stop.
They're all right. And they're all wrong. There is no all-inclusive, one-size-fits-all answer, and anybody who says there is is selling something.