The Tarriff Hype.

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What I see can happen with the trade war is that if Canadians can do is shut the power off, then wait for the phone call to turn the power back on, then explain what are new rules are, pay in advance for 30 days power, in USA funds, and now say a new rate of say 40 cents a kWh, vs old rate of say it was 10 cents, then add the 25% tariff, which will make Trump happy because he gets a tariff of 10 cents vs the old on of 2.5 cents. The reason that Canadians want prepaid sales is because their president has too much power and can find a way to no pay for product delivered. What he does not realize is that the reason that USA has to purchase goods from Canada is because his country cannot produce goods that they need. Also we cannot trust a president that signed a free trade agreement in 2017, saying that is it he best free trade agreement, ever, then changes the rules on the free trade agreement he signed. His word cannot be trusted.
You do realize that Canada and the U.S. do not trade . American companies and Canadian companies trade . How many companies are you willing to sacrifice to hit back on Trump ?
 
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You do realize that Canada and the U.S. do not trade . American companies and Canadian companies trade . How many companies are you willing to sacrifice to hit back on Trump ?
How many companies (companies equal employees and their families) is Trump willing to sacrifice in order to play the role of the strong man who’s never had to do a day of labour in his life?

How is a nation supposed to respond to tariffs? There are no good responses, but which is the least bad response in your opinion?
 
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Much of eastern Canada‘s oil that actually does come from a domestic source flows through Michigan before reaching Ontario and Quebec.
Quebec running out of oil and gas does not bother the rest of the country. One could reasonably say they brought it on themselves.
 
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All of them.

Silly question.
Sadly, I am inclined to agree. On Canadian independent news sources this morning, they have Trump claiming Poilievere (see I fixed spellcheck) isn't MAGA enough because he said he is Canada first. I guess this means we are not going to be the 51st state anytime soon.
Could it mean Musks spy satellites will no longer pass over Canada?
 
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Sadly, I am inclined to agree. On Canadian independent news sources this morning, they have Trump claiming Poilievere (see I fixed spellcheck) isn't MAGA enough because he said he is Canada first. I guess this means we are not going to be the 51st state anytime soon.
Could it mean Musks spy satellites will no longer pass over Canada?
Oh, there was never any question he'd screw Canada out of its socks. But people are slowly coming around to the realization that he'll also screw the U.S. out of its socks to feed his bottomless need for attention.
 

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How is a nation supposed to respond to tariffs? There are no good responses, but which is the least bad response in your opinion?
I have been thinking on this for a while. The best and least expensive answer I found is to do like many of us do with Chinesium. Avoid buying it whenever possible. This takes it out of the political arena, and puts choice in the people's hands.
Export duties on petroleum products are a nonstarter, unless manufactured products from Ontario and Quebec also have export duties imposed on them.
For whatever reason, the chattering class does not want to include simple things like a road use fee on the Alaska highway, and a waterway fee for all marine traffic in BC waters. Or, their freighters and cruise ships can go 200 miles offshore.
 

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Oh, there was never any question he'd screw Canada out of its socks. But people are slowly coming around to the realization that he'll also screw the U.S. out of its socks to feed his bottomless need for attention.
I thought that was a given,
 

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Quebec running out of oil and gas does not bother the rest of the country. One could reasonably say they brought it on themselves.
Quebec isn’t all Québécois, & it’s still about 1 in 4 people in Canada, & that’s huge, & can’t be allowed to happen.
I have been thinking on this for a while. The best and least expensive answer I found is to do like many of us do with Chinesium. Avoid buying it whenever possible. This takes it out of the political arena, and puts choice in the people's hands.
I think, as a grassroots movement, where possible, with many, that’s already happening…& America can thank Trump for that.
Export duties on petroleum products are a nonstarter, unless manufactured products from Ontario and Quebec also have export duties imposed on them.
I hear you. Balance in the universe & the country feeling it from both sides & not just the west carrying the load, like the Chinese retaliation over that Hauwei woman a few years back (Trump was a douche on that one too).
For whatever reason, the chattering class does not want to include simple things like a road use fee on the Alaska highway, and a waterway fee for all marine traffic in BC waters. Or, their freighters and cruise ships can go 200 miles offshore.
That’s an interesting concept. Who’s the chattering class? Who’s objecting?
 

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How many companies (companies equal employees and their families) is Trump willing to sacrifice in order to play the role of the strong man who’s never had to do a day of labour in his life?

How is a nation supposed to respond to tariffs? There are no good responses, but which is the least bad response in your opinion?
He expects to boost economic activity and raise employment numbers . Will he realize his goals only time will tell . You have to admit , we live in interesting times . No sense sweating it , the sun will still rise tomorrow .
 
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He expects to boost economic activity and raise employment numbers . Will he realize his goals only time will tell . You have to admit , we live in interesting times . No sense sweating it , the sun will still rise tomorrow .
If you’re not tied to an industry currently that directly depends on international trade, or the movement of goods based on international trade, then sit back and enjoy the ride I guess.

Those of us that are, like somebody working in a pulp mill or a sawmill or a smelter for steel or aluminum or Transport internationally, or factory producing goods bound for international transport south, or reliant on goods from the south, etc..It’s a little tough not to sweat it & accept a Cavalier Outlook.
 
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If you’re not tied to an industry currently that directly depends on international trade, or the movement of goods based on international trade, then sit back and enjoy the ride I guess.

Those of us that are, like somebody working in a pulp mill or a sawmill or a smelter for steel or aluminum or Transport internationally, or factory producing goods bound for international transport south, or reliant on goods from the south, etc..It’s a little tough not to sweat it & accept a Cavalier Outlook.
Shows what you know. The Cavaliers have the best record in the NBA, and are pretty cheerful about it!
 
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Well, Trump has sure "riled up" Canadians. That's what we needed, for them to wake the F up!! I'm still not sure that'll be enough to get our politicians off their asses to do something FOR CANADA instead of their "foreign associates!!"

I love it!!
 
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That’s an interesting concept. Who’s the chattering class? Who’s objecting?
Mostly Ottawa, Toronto liberal party insiders.I don't hear anyone objecting so much as ignoring. Including the BC government. There is somewhat more to this than just retaliation. Every vehicle that travels on a road does some damage. That costs money, just as snowplowing does. Why not let the Americans pick up the tab for the Alaska highway? Just as every boat does some damage and causes some risk wherever it goes. We have spent millions on spill response ships that are being paid for by taxpayers. If the US wants to use inside waters, they can pick up the tab for safety and environmental damage. We hear much about how much money cruise ships bring in, but the fact is, they are required to make a stop in Canadian waters. That stop is either Victoria or Vancouver. They leave Zip, Zero, Nada cash on the 500 or so miles of coastline that is exposed to their garbage and sewer, as well as the risk of going aground. That is my backyard. Let's make the risk profitable for us.
 
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If you’re not tied to an industry currently that directly depends on international trade, or the movement of goods based on international trade, then sit back and enjoy the ride I guess.

Those of us that are, like somebody working in a pulp mill or a sawmill or a smelter for steel or aluminum or Transport internationally, or factory producing goods bound for international transport south, or reliant on goods from the south, etc..It’s a little tough not to sweat it & accept a Cavalier Outlook.
So just about everyone not collecting a government paycheque. When a mill shuts down, every business and every non government employee in town suffers.Right down to the bartenders.
 
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