Yep. I’ve got a son-in-law working at a mill in the Vernon area. It won’t be doing him any favours I’m sure.
The Tarriff Hype.
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So…The tariff threat tightrope drew tauter Thursday, while Britain, an erstwhile ally, threw Canada under the bus in its own rush to avoid Trump's tariffs… just like the cowards in Ottawa did with Mexico a month ago.
U.S. President Donald Trump doubled down on his threat to slap all-encompassing tariffs on Canada next week, in a social media post and publicly as he met with U.K. Prime Minister Keir Starmer. During the meeting, Starmer declined to stand up for Canada. Good times.
The British prime minister, asked during a joint news conference if he'd raised Trump's repeated threats to annex Canada, or if King Charles had expressed any concern about them, said he was focused on negotiating new economic and security deals with Trump, and turned aside any concerns about Canada.
"You mentioned Canada, I think you're trying to find a divide between us that doesn't exist. We're the closest of nations," Starmer bristled.
Trump said Starmer had worked "very hard" to avoid tariffs on Britain, but the president offered him no reassurances, saying only they “might” reach a good trade deal.
Trump has threatened "reciprocal tariffs" against all global imports. But he's reserved particularly punitive treatment for Canada and Mexico, and despite signals Wednesday from his officials that Trump was still open to negotiation, Trump said Thursday he had seen no progress at the northern border.
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"I don't see it at all. No, not on drugs," Trump said when asked specifically about Canada's border actions. A few minutes later, Trump appeared to “misunderstand” America's own border statistics on fentanyl seizures, saying Canada "should be apprehending much more, they're only apprehending one per cent."
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He rejected an assertion that U.S. tariffs would paid by American importers and consumers, telling a reporter, "They're not, no, I think they're paid for by the country." Holy Shit!!
Earlier Thursday (=today), Trump said in a Truth Social post that, "Drugs are still pouring into our Country from Mexico and Canada at very high and unacceptable levels … until it stops, or is seriously limited, the proposed TARIFFS scheduled to go into effect on MARCH FOURTH will, indeed, go into effect, as scheduled. China will likewise be charged an additional 10% Tariff on that date. The April Second Reciprocal Tariff date will remain in full force and effect."
Those are:
1) A 25 per cent "across the board" tariff on all Canadian and Mexican imports, with a 10 per cent tariff on oil and gas, possibly (?) to take effect Mar. 4.
2) A 25 per cent tariff on global steel and aluminum imports, including Canadian products, to take effect Mar. 12.
3) A 25 per cent tariff on global auto imports, including from Canada, to take effect April 2.
4) Unspecified "reciprocal tariffs" against all countries that sell goods to America, to take effect April 2.
5) Unspecified tariff to come on copper, dependent on a review due in nine months.
U.S. President Donald Trump doubled down on his threat to slap all-encompassing tariffs on Canada next week, in a social media post and publicly as he met with U.K. Prime Minister Keir Starmer. During the meeting, Starmer declined to stand up for Canada. Good times.
The British prime minister, asked during a joint news conference if he'd raised Trump's repeated threats to annex Canada, or if King Charles had expressed any concern about them, said he was focused on negotiating new economic and security deals with Trump, and turned aside any concerns about Canada.
"You mentioned Canada, I think you're trying to find a divide between us that doesn't exist. We're the closest of nations," Starmer bristled.
Trump said Starmer had worked "very hard" to avoid tariffs on Britain, but the president offered him no reassurances, saying only they “might” reach a good trade deal.
Trump has threatened "reciprocal tariffs" against all global imports. But he's reserved particularly punitive treatment for Canada and Mexico, and despite signals Wednesday from his officials that Trump was still open to negotiation, Trump said Thursday he had seen no progress at the northern border.
Donald Trump doubles down on threat to slap tariffs on Canada as British PM declines to stand up for Canada — Toronto Star
U.S. President Donald Trump doubled down on his threat to slap all-encompassing tariffs on Canada as he met with U.K. Prime Minister Keir Starmer.
Confused by Trump's shifting tariffs remarks? You're not alone. Here's what we know
U.S. President Donald Trump has once against warned that tariffs are coming for Canada. But which tariffs is he talking about? And when?
Ottawa earlier this month identified countermeasures that could target $155 billion worth of American imports if Trump follows through on his threat.
Earlier Thursday (=today), Trump said in a Truth Social post that, "Drugs are still pouring into our Country from Mexico and Canada at very high and unacceptable levels … until it stops, or is seriously limited, the proposed TARIFFS scheduled to go into effect on MARCH FOURTH will, indeed, go into effect, as scheduled. China will likewise be charged an additional 10% Tariff on that date. The April Second Reciprocal Tariff date will remain in full force and effect."
Trump has threatened several rounds of tariffs, with different objectives and different deadlines.. Until that point, unless that happens, we’re doing everything we can to try and bulletproof our dealers from as much of the potential tariffs and reciprocal tariffs and reciprocal-reciprocal tariffs as we possibly can.
Those are:
1) A 25 per cent "across the board" tariff on all Canadian and Mexican imports, with a 10 per cent tariff on oil and gas, possibly (?) to take effect Mar. 4.
2) A 25 per cent tariff on global steel and aluminum imports, including Canadian products, to take effect Mar. 12.
3) A 25 per cent tariff on global auto imports, including from Canada, to take effect April 2.
4) Unspecified "reciprocal tariffs" against all countries that sell goods to America, to take effect April 2.
5) Unspecified tariff to come on copper, dependent on a review due in nine months.
The "threat" went away Dec 17 but chimps buried the fact and kept screaming. The orangatang hates screaming chimps so he's been feeding them rotten. This hype is all the chimps doing.
You know, if Pete happens to be right on this…& this tariff shit blows over…& Trump is just getting his jollies from this because his penis (which he hasn’t seen in years) just doesn’t work anymore…I think I know how Canada should respond.
If this shit is dropped, Canada should announce “Export” (not import) tariffs of 10% across the board in 30 days on all US imports from Canada until they get their poop in a group and ducks in a row with respect to the flow of drugs (& guns, & illegal aliens) coming into Canada from the US, third country refugee excuse or not.
This would be reviewed every 60 days to decide if across-the-board tariffs should increase by 5%, this will start with natural gas, hydro electric power, uranium, potash, aluminum and steel, all agricultural products, maple syrup, hockey sticks, lumber, automotive parts, crude oil, etc…until not a single handgun crosses into Canada from that 8900 km long border with the US, and the same with methamphetamines and cocaine and fentanyl and illegal aliens and so on and so forth.
How about this. In addition to this “Export” tariffs, for every illegal firearm found in Canada, that could be traced back to an origin in America, without proper import documentation into Canada…Canada imposes a $100,000 fee upon the US is some manner. If it’s used in a crime in Canada, that increases to $1,000,000 fee for that firearm.
Then 10% of any fee collected goes directly to the police department that confiscated the American origin firearm, & 20% goes directly to Canadian Military budgetary funding, & 30% goes directly to a ‘victims of crime’ fund.
Exact method to impose that fee to be determined. Govern yourselves accordingly.
Canada’s exports to America are generally not finished goods, but the ingredients that America needs to create finished goods. Let that sink in.
Oh, & for that retard Navarro that wants to “revisit redrawing the Canada/US border…he can go kick rocks.
www.telegraph.co.uk
If this shit is dropped, Canada should announce “Export” (not import) tariffs of 10% across the board in 30 days on all US imports from Canada until they get their poop in a group and ducks in a row with respect to the flow of drugs (& guns, & illegal aliens) coming into Canada from the US, third country refugee excuse or not.
This would be reviewed every 60 days to decide if across-the-board tariffs should increase by 5%, this will start with natural gas, hydro electric power, uranium, potash, aluminum and steel, all agricultural products, maple syrup, hockey sticks, lumber, automotive parts, crude oil, etc…until not a single handgun crosses into Canada from that 8900 km long border with the US, and the same with methamphetamines and cocaine and fentanyl and illegal aliens and so on and so forth.How about this. In addition to this “Export” tariffs, for every illegal firearm found in Canada, that could be traced back to an origin in America, without proper import documentation into Canada…Canada imposes a $100,000 fee upon the US is some manner. If it’s used in a crime in Canada, that increases to $1,000,000 fee for that firearm.
Then 10% of any fee collected goes directly to the police department that confiscated the American origin firearm, & 20% goes directly to Canadian Military budgetary funding, & 30% goes directly to a ‘victims of crime’ fund.
Exact method to impose that fee to be determined. Govern yourselves accordingly.
Canada’s exports to America are generally not finished goods, but the ingredients that America needs to create finished goods. Let that sink in.
Oh, & for that retard Navarro that wants to “revisit redrawing the Canada/US border…he can go kick rocks.
White House official threatens to redraw Canadian border
Peter Navarro is pushing negotiators to discuss reworking country’s boundaries, The Telegraph can reveal
www.telegraph.co.uk
Reciprocal tariffs will solve nothing and cause a contraction of economic activity. It is in no one’s interest to stifle trade . None of this would be happening if we had a serious government. Don’t blame Trump he didn’t devalue our dollar to .70 . He didn’t open our border to so many undesirables . Let’s vote for Carney .he can fight Trump .
Canada has tariffs on many American products to protect our markets , think dairy and the milk lobby . The reason we have an auto industry was Ford and GM wanted to shift tariffs and built factories here . Same with Westinghouse , and many other companies . We have since made trade agreements to get around the issue . Make no mistake tariffs are not a new thing on either side of the border . One thing is sure governments love the revenue they provide . One more hidden tax we all gladly pay .
Until there is a Government in Canada that is worth negotiating with the tarrif threat boogieman isn't going away but it will remain just a threat. What's the point of an 8 week tariff? I'm sticking by my 420ish election date
Why respond at all if you want to upset the guy?
The only show of strength Trump will accept as ballsy is to do nothing in kind.
There are a few things Canadians need to accept as truths that we can no longer ignore and actually should be panicking aboot.
1. We're broke. Our economy is paper and 2×4s. Our GDP is nothing but retail and real estate. We'll never see affordable housing ever again unless there is a massive housing crash which is the end of this version of Canada.
2. Industry and manufacturing along with the tradesmen and technical labour to run it are found in history books. Try finding a craftsman. How many furniture makers do you know? Where would you get a custom stained glass window without it taking a year and coming from offshore or at minimum out of Province? The solution? Fake it with stickers. We create, use and dispose of nothing but garbage.
3. Fentanyl. It's a slow motion Chinese terrorist attack. As I type this there is woman on 7th Ave desperate to suck a cock so she can get another hit of fenty. Fentanyl is literally at my doorstep. If you as a Canadian say Fentanyl hasn't impacted you personally, youre full of shit. Same goes for meth. Instant psychosis. We need factory sized mental facilities just to get the heads of meth rats screwed back on. Either that or we should pay them $20 for every bag of garbage they collect. We'd be as clean as Singapore within a week.
4. 9 guys on snowmobiles to protect hundreds of trillions of USD (gazillions CAD) in Arctic resources. Yeah its that bad and no we can't keep it without America. Sorry kids but we'll have to accept US military bases on our soil. We have no choice but and yes concessions to do so are in order. NORAD doesnt stop boats. An Arctic port and airbase are necessary.
5. Eco-Fascism. Not real? Think again, we're 30 years behind in energy and hard Rock resources. It's came to be that Eco-Fascists are now regretting their actions and suddenly supporting oil and gas exports and going nuclear. We lost a lot of money but the biggest loss was in clout.
6. Globalism is dead. It's not us and them any longer. It's us and them and them and them. If it takes wake up calls such as tariff threats for Canada to be an active partner with the US rather than being along for the ride then so be it. An EU style partnership is inevitable.
7. War...be prepared.
The facts on fentanyl and the northern border — The Globe and Mail
Trump’s White House is using misleading data about drug seizures and their links to Canada, a Globe investigation finds
List of products from the United States subject to 25 per cent tariffs effective February 4, 2025 - Canada.ca
Effective February 4, 2025, the government is imposing 25 per cent tariffs on $30 billion in goods imported from the United States (U.S.).
There is no good or bad or more or less fentanyl. It's a terrorist attack on both countries by China. Not fighting it together is idiotic.
The facts on fentanyl and the northern border — The Globe and Mail
Trump’s White House is using misleading data about drug seizures and their links to Canada, a Globe investigation findsList of products from the United States subject to 25 per cent tariffs effective February 4, 2025 - Canada.ca
Effective February 4, 2025, the government is imposing 25 per cent tariffs on $30 billion in goods imported from the United States (U.S.).www.canada.ca
Countertariffs on tariffs that don't exist...
This is sort of related to tariffs, at least from Trump's position. Couldn't find a better spot, either.
In The Hub this morning is a link to a CBC article saying that the CRTC is now charging Google an administration fee to cover the costs of policing the $100 million tax Google volunteered to pay for Canadian news content.
Things like this rightly irritate the US.
In The Hub this morning is a link to a CBC article saying that the CRTC is now charging Google an administration fee to cover the costs of policing the $100 million tax Google volunteered to pay for Canadian news content.
Things like this rightly irritate the US.
It's not new and if we want US investment in big data centers it has to go. Our new dollar comes with a new block chain banking payment/transfer system that will replace SWIFT. We want those in Canada.
This was caused by letting academics run our education system. Seems they feel working with your hands in vulgar. Everyone can work in the services industries. All this from people that have to hire someone to change a lightbulb.
Largly our own fault for letting people that can't do anything run the country while we were busy working.
Vocational skills in highschool are going to make a big comeback.
OK, so you love the light-bulb changers and sneer at the people who pay them.
Makes sense.
I’m really glad I departed the forest industry 20 years ago. I still miss it, but financially, heavy construction is more rewarding. I should have retired 3 years ago ago, but the 50% increase in the cost of living due to COVID kind of made living off 1 pension unviable. Survive, maybe,but not live.
What I see can happen with the trade war is that if Canadians can do is shut the power off, then wait for the phone call to turn the power back on, then explain what are new rules are, pay in advance for 30 days power, in USA funds, and now say a new rate of say 40 cents a kWh, vs old rate of say it was 10 cents, then add the 25% tariff, which will make Trump happy because he gets a tariff of 10 cents vs the old on of 2.5 cents. The reason that Canadians want prepaid sales is because their president has too much power and can find a way to no pay for product delivered. What he does not realize is that the reason that USA has to purchase goods from Canada is because his country cannot produce goods that they need. Also we cannot trust a president that signed a free trade agreement in 2017, saying that is it he best free trade agreement, ever, then changes the rules on the free trade agreement he signed. His word cannot be trusted.
Much of eastern Canada‘s oil that actually does come from a domestic source flows through Michigan before reaching Ontario and Quebec.