The Taliban is not America's enemy

EagleSmack

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And what has that got to do with the BS reasons the US and the coalition of the stupid invaded Afghanistan?


 

Cliffy

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Because some have an irrational and blind hatred for the US.
Does Bay of Tonkin mean anything to you? Does the term false flag mean anything to you? Does WMDs mean anything? Does 100,000 dead Iraqis mean anything? Does lying about there being no war in Cambodia? How does knowing about and condemning these things translate to an irrational hate?
 

gerryh

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The Taliban has a tight grip on all communications equipment that OBL was using - they removed it - they knew he was up to another attack. Yet what did they keep on doing. Nothing.



Diplomats Met With Taliban on Bin Laden (washingtonpost.com)

Over three years and on as many continents, U.S. officials met in public and secret at least 20 times with Taliban representatives to discuss ways the regime could bring suspected terrorist Osama bin Laden to justice

Throughout the years, however, State Department officials refused to soften their demand that bin Laden face trial in the U.S. justice system. It also remained murky whether the Taliban envoys, representing at least one division of the fractious Islamic movement, could actually deliver on their promises.


Newly Disclosed Documents Shed More Light on Early Taliban Offers, Pakistan Role | Foreign Policy Journal
According to the BBC, the Taliban later even warned the U.S. that bin Laden was going to launch an attack on American soil. Former Taliban foreign minister Wakil Ahmad Muttawakil said his warnings, issued because of concerns that the U.S. would react by waging war against Afghanistan, had been ignored. A U.S. official did not deny that such warnings were issued, but told BBC rather that it was dismissed because “We were hearing a lot of that kind of stuff”.[4]


You do realize that you are supporting the contention that the u.s. did in fact attack the Taliban without provocation or reason.
 

CDNBear

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I supported the UN in trying to take them out.
Their record is dismal.

But the US decision was not based on human rights violations, or the reign of terror perpetrated by the Taliban.
Maybe you can point out where I said it was.

As far as I'm concerned, the Taliban was a terrorist group but they restricted their acts of terror to their own people.
While they harboured groups that acted outside their territory. That's called a failed state.

I doubt very much it had anything to do with al Quida either.
I doubt it had everything to do with Al Qeada.

As for how I feel about Christianity or my scrutiny of them, it has more to do with the inconsistencies in translation and interpretation of the bible and those that use it to justify hatred toward other religions and groups, in other words, the hypocrisy of people like Alley and MHZ. I have nothing against the teaching of Jesus. I do have a problem with those who condemn all those who don't follow their particular brand of belief. All, as far as I can remember, of my comments were aimed at a particular person and what they said and not against the religion in general. If it was a general remark about crimes against humanity that Christians have perpetrated t was in response to finger pointing at Muslims. On that count I feel they are equally guilty. It really has nothing to do with either religion, just those who use the religion to hate and perpetrate acts of hate.
Sounds like you don't trust them.

I was going to post something intelligent in response to CB's mind numbing brain pablum, but Cliffy already did.
He did? Or is it because you agree with his position, more so than any factual content?

I'll ask, but have no hopes you'll actually answer this. What part was mind numbing pablum?

The fact that Afghanistan under the Taliban was a training ground for a multitude of terrorist groups?

It's a theocratic govt?

It was used as a base of operations to commit criminal acts outside its territorial boundaries?

Therefore the Taliban had the most legitimate claim to represent the Afghan people...
It isn't who they represented domestically that brought them to this point.

Also the Taliban would have had to have told a lot of lies to be less reliable than the Americans.
Speaking of mind numbing pablum. We are already aware of how you will believe anything said by despots.

BTW, how's the search for Iraq's WMD stockpiles coming?
As has been asked at least a dozen times, why aren't you mad at the Germans about that?
 

Highball

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Rule #1 for for Biden is,
open mouth. Rule # 2 Insert foot. Rule #3 Get a sudden case of selective memory. It isn't Senile Dementia either. It is political stupidity. How do we fix stupid?
 

dumpthemonarchy

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Although geopolitically wrong, displacing the Taliban made a bad situation worse in the poorest country in the word. The UN did support the attack, which gives a clue the Taliban made a mistake not handing over bin-Laden to save Afghanistan from more war. Pawns have to just go along at times, and knuckle under to prevent something worse. Now of course Afghanis really hate the Arab al-queda. Afghanis are not Arabs.