The Syria Thread: Everything you wanted to know or say about it

Merge the Syria Threads

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EagleSmack

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Dream on. Saudi Arabia isn't paying for that mess. They're funding the mess to begin with!

And the rest... well that is just your babbling nonsense.

And the Grind goes on... Unabated... and more and more arrive in Syria to shoot and hack and blow each other up.
 

MHz

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Even as you drone on and on and on and on the preferred target is still women and kids

And what does the Saudis get for all their money, a lost war a very hefty bill dor all the 47 tonnes of hunting rifles while Turkey gets all the new stuff. The US wants the rebels to return what was stolen in Turkey, do you honestly believe their word would be any better than the word of their masters, the US. Same fruit, same tree and you want different results.
 

petros

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Even as you drone on and on and on and on the preferred target is still women and kids

And what does the Saudis get for all their money, a lost war a very hefty bill dor all the 47 tonnes of hunting rifles while Turkey gets all the new stuff. The US wants the rebels to return what was stolen in Turkey, do you honestly believe their word would be any better than the word of their masters, the US. Same fruit, same tree and you want different results.
Children are our future, if we kill them now there will be more bandwidth for us.
 

MHz

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Me thinks you have too much as it is. The reality is a few of these put into place and everybody puts down their 'best weapons' and goes home and stays there either cheering or pouting, unless you like it when things go bang deep in the night.
Russia Confirms Tactical Missile Deployment on NATO Borders | Defense | RIA Novosti

 

darkbeaver

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Indeed they are. I am sure the Israelis are feeding this war nicely and watching with glee as it's enemies hack each other's heads off.



Israel, I read, is anything but calm and collected these days smack, the boycot has picked up a lot of steam in the last year and unemployment coupled with general unrest and fear contributes to increased levels of out migration of Israelis from Israel, which had the same problem before the boycot movement. The smarter rats are leaving the stinking wreak before she capsizes. Israel is already defeated. Sanctions are coming, the world is finally revolted and empowered.


Whither the Syrian "revolutionaries" ?

by Thierry Meyssan
On the eve of the Geneva 2 Conference, the American organisers no longer have any puppets to play the role of Syrian revolutionaries. The sudden disappearance of the Free Syrian Army shows those who believed in it that it was a fiction. There has never been a popular revolution in Syria; just foreign aggression staged by mercenaries and billions of dollars.
 

MHz

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That isn't even partly true, we are the sole cause of unending bloodshed wherever we go. Here is the history of Afghanistan, we are the corrupt entity in the last 100 years there and we do the same wherever we go, it isn't pretty but it is the truth.

Soviet Afghan War, Al Qaeda and the Muslim Rebel Formula | WideShut.co.uk
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The Soviet-Afghan war (December 24, 1979 – February 15, 1989) was a key element in the collapse of the Soviet Empire. The conflict was fomented by their cold war enemy the United States who secretly donated billions to the Islamic factions known as the Mujahideen, directly through the Central Intelligence Agency and their relationship with Pakistan’s secret service, the ISI.

The Soviet Afghan War and its fallout is important to study for a number of reasons. Not only did it mark the end of the overt Cold War and lay the groundwork for the war on terror, but it also provides a historical framework for understanding the West’s subsequent operations in the Balkans and later in Libya and Syria, where similar covert backing of Islamic factions has taken place and the same negative consequences are emerging.

When President Jimmy Carter informed the nation that Russia had invaded Afghanistan in 1979 he unabashedly made corporate America’s interests one of the focal points of his speech. “We must recognize the strategic importance of Afghanistan…a Soviet occupied Afghanistan is a stepping stone to possible control over much of the world’s oil supplies.” What the average US citizen probably didn’t know at that time was that Carter had already signed a directive to give “aid” to the Islamic Fundamentalists, stoking the fires of civil war and increasing the likelihood of Russia invading, which of course they did. The “non-aligned sovereign nation of Afghanistan,” made up of “fiercely independent Muslim people,” as Carter describes, were already aligned to the United States and fighting a proxy war on their behalf against the Communist leaning government and atheist city dwellers. The US simply wanted to secure their own piece of the pie by exploiting the traditional rural Muslims against the Soviet Satellite in Kabul.


The initial coup of 1973 that overthrew the monarchy was lead by Mohammed Daoud Khan, a leading Afghan politician who was Prime Minster from 1953 to 1963. He continued the growing relationship with the Soviet Union and enacted a number of modernization plans that increased the rights of women and improved the nation’s economy. Though King Zahir was Daoud’s cousin and brother in-law, this didn’t stop the revolutionary momentum, and in July 1973 Daoud carried out a coup – albeit bloodless – and declared Afghanistan a Republic, with himself as President. Under his leadership a new constitution was crafted and the military went through a further process of modernization with Soviet assistance.



By the late 70s America’s Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) had morphed into an international attack dog with little room for ethics or morals. The controversial “jackals” were hot off scandals in Cuba and Latin America, where their covert ops had far surpassed the national security mandate. Vietnam and the Watergate scandal were also still fresh in everybody’s minds. In this context it should come as no surprise that the agency’s most expensive mission to date, would be to meddle in the brewing civil war of a resource-hub nation. Just as the Brits had learned before them, Afghanistan was a valuable chess piece in the growing corporate-American empire.
For the longest time US involvement in the war was coated in fluffy rhetoric about protecting Afghanistan from the Soviet invasion. While this may jive with the cold war paradigm written by its victors, it would be naïve to think America were any less brutal, deceptive or power-hungry than Russia. This “Team America” narrative not only ignores the strategic and economic motives for the proxy conflict, but some of the key players involved have since admitted that covert operations began before the Soviet invasion, suggesting that this was just another immoral international scandal masked in cold war propaganda.



US plans to support the Muslims are recorded as early as March 1979, some 9 months before the Soviets officially began military operations. The Carter Administration sought to “reverse the current Soviet trend and presence…and to demonstrate to the Pakistanis our interests and concern about Soviet involvement, and to demonstrate to the Pakistanis, Saudis, and others our resolve to stop extension of Soviet influence in the Third World.”