The Spy Revolt Against Trump Begins

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The Spy Revolt Against Trump Begins

In a recent column, I explained how the still-forming Trump administration is already doing serious harm to America’s longstanding global intelligence partnerships. In particular, fears that the White House is too friendly to Moscow are causing close allies to curtail some of their espionage relationships with Washington—a development with grave implications for international security, particularly in the all-important realm of counterterrorism.

Now those concerns are causing problems much closer to home—in fact, inside the Beltway itself. Our Intelligence Community is so worried by the unprecedented problems of the Trump administration—not only do senior officials possess troubling ties to the Kremlin, there are nagging questions about basic competence regarding Team Trump—that it is beginning to withhold intelligence from a White House which our spies do not trust.

That the IC has ample grounds for concern is demonstrated by almost daily revelations of major problems inside the White House, a mere three weeks after the inauguration. The president has repeatedly gone out of his way to antagonize our spies, mocking them and demeaning their work, and Trump’s personal national security guru can’t seem to keep his story straight on vital issues.

That’s Mike Flynn, the retired Army three-star general who now heads the National Security Council. Widely disliked in Washington for his brash personality and preference for conspiracy-theorizing over intelligence facts, Flynn was fired as head of the Defense Intelligence Agency for managerial incompetence and poor judgment—flaws he has brought to the far more powerful and political NSC.

Flynn’s problems with the truth have been laid bare by the growing scandal about his dealings with Moscow. Strange ties to the Kremlin, including Vladimir Putin himself, have dogged Flynn since he left DIA, and concerns about his judgment have risen considerably since it was revealed that after the November 8 election, Flynn repeatedly called the Russian embassy in Washington to discuss the transition. The White House has denied that anything substantive came up in conversations between Flynn and Sergei Kislyak, the Russian ambassador.

That was a lie, as confirmed by an extensively sourced bombshell report in The Washington Post, which makes clear that Flynn grossly misrepresented his numerous conversations with Kislyak—which turn out to have happened before the election too, part of a regular dialogue with the Russian embassy. To call such an arrangement highly unusual in American politics would be very charitable.

In particular, Flynn and Kislyak discussed the possible lifting of the sanctions President Obama placed on Russia and its intelligence services late last year in retaliation for the Kremlin’s meddling in our 2016 election. In public, Flynn repeatedly denied that any talk of sanctions occurred during his conversations with Russia’s ambassador. Worse, he apparently lied in private too, including to Vice President Mike Pence, who when this scandal broke last month publicly denied that Flynn conducted any sanctions talk with Kislyak. Pence and his staff are reported to be very upset with the national security adviser, who played the vice president for a fool.

It’s debatable whether Flynn broke any laws by conducting unofficial diplomacy with Moscow, then lying about it, and he has now adopted the customary Beltway dodge about the affair, ditching his previous denials in favor of professing he has “no recollection of discussing sanctions,” adding that he “couldn’t be certain that the topic never came up.” That’s not good enough anymore, since the IC knows exactly what Flynn and Kislyak discussed.

In pretty much every capital worldwide, embassies that provide sanctuary to hostile intelligence services are subject to counterintelligence surveillance, including monitoring phone calls. Our spy services conduct signals intelligence—SIGINT for short—against the Russian embassy in Washington, just as the Russians do against our embassy in Moscow. Ambassadors’ calls are always monitored: that’s how the SpyWar works, everywhere.

Ambassador Kislyak surely knew his conversations with Flynn were being intercepted, and it’s incomprehensible that a career military intelligence officer who once headed a major intelligence agency didn’t realize the same. Whether Flynn is monumentally stupid or monumentally arrogant is the big question that hangs over this increasingly strange affair.

Prominent Democrats in Congress are already calling for Flynn to be relieved over this scandal, which at best shows him to be dishonest about important issues. Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, has bluntly asked for the national security adviser’s ouster. Republicans on the Hill who would prefer that the White House stop lying to the public about its Kremlin links ought to get behind Schiff’s initiative before the scandal gets worse.

The Spy Revolt Against Donald Trump Begins | Observer
 

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I thought this would happen who could trust Washington when they behave
the way this administration behaves. America is going to isolate itself from the
information it needs and the crazies will have a field day
 

Mowich

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I thought this would happen who could trust Washington when they behave
the way this administration behaves. America is going to isolate itself from the
information it needs and the crazies will have a field day

They may end up needing a wall around the entire country, DG.......and were it at all possible, which it isn't, I'd be advocating for a wall of our own. I am rather alarmed by the number of illegals turning up at our borders especially in the middle of a bitterly cold winter - it makes me wonder what the warmer weather will bring and if we are truly equipped to deal with the numbers of people seeking refugee status. I sure hope the government is on top of this.
 

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They may end up needing a wall around the entire country, DG.......and were it at all possible, which it isn't, I'd be advocating for a wall of our own. I am rather alarmed by the number of illegals turning up at our borders especially in the middle of a bitterly cold winter - it makes me wonder what the warmer weather will bring and if we are truly equipped to deal with the numbers of people seeking refugee status. I sure hope the government is on top of this.
Of course we are I heard our illustrious PM invite the world .
 

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The Spy Revolt Against Trump Begins

In a recent column, I explained how the still-forming Trump administration is already doing serious harm to America’s longstanding global intelligence partnerships.
That the same one made up of Nazis after WWII who suddenly began to overthrow democracies like Iran as far back as 1953, who planned the overthrow of Cuba in 1060 with the Bay of Pigs (appopriate name for the planners for sure), Both Iraq wars and countless other horrors in many foreign nations, all of whom never had a chance to fight back.

Those the noble f*ckers you are so in love with?? Inquiring minds want to know.
 

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In a recent column, I explained how the still-forming Trump administration is already doing serious harm to America’s longstanding global intelligence partnerships. In particular, fears that the White House is too friendly to Moscow are causing close allies to curtail some of their espionage relationships with Washington—a development with grave implications for international security, particularly in the all-important realm of counterterrorism.

I thought we weren't supposed to be worried about terrorism?
 

Cliffy

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I thought we weren't supposed to be worried about terrorism?
The US government, the CIA and the military/industrial complex are the terrorists. The US, Israel and Britain financed, trained an supplied ISIS, their proxy army in the muddled east. "Wreak havoc and unleash the dogs of war."
 

Murphy

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I love how you keep throwing your Seroquel in the dining room garbage. We know you're swallowing Mrs. Hibbs Senna meds. You do realize she is taking them for her constipation problem, right?
 

Angstrom

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Honestly though, we were better off with the elites

Honestly, enough people dont agree with you & voted against the elite & won. You're opinion is not factuel. Just saying.

The US government, the CIA and the military/industrial complex are the terrorists. The US, Israel and Britain financed, trained an supplied ISIS, their proxy army in the muddled east. "Wreak havoc and unleash the dogs of war."

See mentalflake? You really think the elite was better?
 

Murphy

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I'm just tossing out a random thought here. Take it for what it's worth.

Quoting anything Cliffy says and using it in support of an argument is, well, it's just not a good idea. He's just as likely to tell you the planet is controlled by reptilians.

 

Cliffy

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I'm just tossing out a random thought here. Take it for what it's worth.

Quoting anything Cliffy says and using it in support of an argument is, well, it's just not a good idea. He's just as likely to tell you the planet is controlled by reptilians.
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