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'We are all collapsed, our homes and our people'; Earthquake-hit Mexico pounded by Hurricane Katia
Christopher Sherman, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
First posted: Saturday, September 09, 2017 10:33 AM EDT | Updated: Saturday, September 09, 2017 01:34 PM EDT
JUCHITAN, Mexico — Slow-moving funeral processions converged on Juchitan’s cemeteries from all directions on Saturday, so many that they sometimes caused temporary gridlock when they met at intersections.
A monster earthquake and a Gulf coast hurricane have combined to take at least 67 lives in Mexico, and no place suffered more than the Oaxaca state city of Juchitan, where 37 died as buildings collapsed in the magnitude 8.1 temblor.
The graveyard swelled with mourners and blaring serenades for the dead — the sounds of snare drums, saxophones and sobbing. Pallbearers carried the caskets around rubble the quake had knocked from the simple concrete crypts. Jittery amid continued aftershocks, friends and relatives of the deceased had hushed conversations in the Zapotec language as they stood under umbrellas for shade from the beating sun.
Paulo Cesar Escamilla Matus and his family held a memorial service for his mother, Reynalda Matus Martinez, in the living room of her home, where relatives quietly wept beside her body.
The 64-year-old woman was working the night shift at a neighbourhood pharmacy when the quake struck Thursday night, collapsing the building.
“All the weight of the second floor fell on top of her,” said her son, who rushed to the building and found her under rubble. He and neighbours tried to dig her out, but weren’t able to recover her body until the next morning when civil defence workers brought a backhoe that could lift what had trapped her.
Fearful of crime, the pharmacy kept its doors locked, and Escamilla Matus wondered if that had cost his mother the time she needed to escape.
Scenes of mourning were repeated over and over again in Juchitan, where a third of the city’s homes collapsed or were uninhabitable, President Enrique Pena Nieto said late Friday in an interview with the Televisa news network. Part of the city hall collapsed.
The remains of brick walls and clay tile roofs cluttered streets as families dragged mattresses onto sidewalks to spend a second anxious night sleeping outdoors. Some were newly homeless, while others feared further aftershocks could topple their cracked adobe dwellings.
Rescuers searched for survivors with sniffer dogs and used heavy machinery at the main square to pull rubble away from city hall, where a missing police officer was believed to be inside.
The man’s body was found Saturday afternoon in a collapsed passageway between city hall offices and a market, according to a municipal police officer who was guarding the site. The officer declined to give his name because he was not officially authorized to give information to reporters.
The city’s civil defence co-ordinator, Jose Antonio Marin Lopez, said similar searches had been going on all over the area.
Teams found bodies in the rubble, but the highlight was pulling four people, including two children, alive from the completely collapsed Hotel Del Rio, where one woman died.
“The priority continues to be the people,” Marin said.
Larissa Garcia Ruiz was grateful to escape with only a broken arm when her house collapsed as she and her family slept.
“I only woke up when I heard screaming,” said the 24-year-old cradling her wrapped arm.
Her mother managed to push the daughters and her blind husband through the back doorway before a massive section of thick wall fell, trapping her. As Larissa tried to help rescue her mother, another piece of rubble fell, breaking her arm. Other relatives and friends finally managed to release the trapped woman.
All around them people yelled for help that night. “Nobody helped us,” her sister Vicenta said. “Everybody got out as best they could.”
In addition to the deaths in Juchitan, the quake killed nine other people in Oaxaca and 19 in neighbouring states. Two others died in a mudslide in the Gulf coast state of Veracruz after Hurricane Katia hit late Friday.
Pena Nieto said authorities were working to re-establish supplies of water and food and provide medical attention to those who need it. He vowed the government would help rebuild.
Power was cut at least briefly to more than 1.8 million people due to the quake, and authorities closed schools in at least 11 states to check them for safety.
The Interior Department reported that 428 homes were destroyed and 1,700 were damaged just in Chiapas, the state closest to the epicenter.
Just one day later, Hurricane Katia hit land north of Tecolutla in Veracruz state, pelting the region with intense rains and maximum sustained winds of 75 mph (120) kph.
Veracruz Gov. Miguel Angel Yunes said two people died in a mudslide related to the storm, and he said some rivers had risen to near flood stage, but there were no reports of major damage.
More than 4,000 people evacuated parts of Veracruz and neighbouring Puebla states ahead of the storm’s arrival.
The Hurricane Center said Katia could still bring 3 to 6 inches (7.5 to 15 centimetres) of additional rain to a region with a history of deadly mudslides and flooding.
Associated Press writers Peter Orsi and Mark Stevenson in Mexico City contributed to this report.
'We are all collapsed, our homes and our people'; Earthquake-hit Mexico pounded
Christopher Sherman, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
First posted: Saturday, September 09, 2017 10:33 AM EDT | Updated: Saturday, September 09, 2017 01:34 PM EDT
JUCHITAN, Mexico — Slow-moving funeral processions converged on Juchitan’s cemeteries from all directions on Saturday, so many that they sometimes caused temporary gridlock when they met at intersections.
A monster earthquake and a Gulf coast hurricane have combined to take at least 67 lives in Mexico, and no place suffered more than the Oaxaca state city of Juchitan, where 37 died as buildings collapsed in the magnitude 8.1 temblor.
The graveyard swelled with mourners and blaring serenades for the dead — the sounds of snare drums, saxophones and sobbing. Pallbearers carried the caskets around rubble the quake had knocked from the simple concrete crypts. Jittery amid continued aftershocks, friends and relatives of the deceased had hushed conversations in the Zapotec language as they stood under umbrellas for shade from the beating sun.
Paulo Cesar Escamilla Matus and his family held a memorial service for his mother, Reynalda Matus Martinez, in the living room of her home, where relatives quietly wept beside her body.
The 64-year-old woman was working the night shift at a neighbourhood pharmacy when the quake struck Thursday night, collapsing the building.
“All the weight of the second floor fell on top of her,” said her son, who rushed to the building and found her under rubble. He and neighbours tried to dig her out, but weren’t able to recover her body until the next morning when civil defence workers brought a backhoe that could lift what had trapped her.
Fearful of crime, the pharmacy kept its doors locked, and Escamilla Matus wondered if that had cost his mother the time she needed to escape.
Scenes of mourning were repeated over and over again in Juchitan, where a third of the city’s homes collapsed or were uninhabitable, President Enrique Pena Nieto said late Friday in an interview with the Televisa news network. Part of the city hall collapsed.
The remains of brick walls and clay tile roofs cluttered streets as families dragged mattresses onto sidewalks to spend a second anxious night sleeping outdoors. Some were newly homeless, while others feared further aftershocks could topple their cracked adobe dwellings.
Rescuers searched for survivors with sniffer dogs and used heavy machinery at the main square to pull rubble away from city hall, where a missing police officer was believed to be inside.
The man’s body was found Saturday afternoon in a collapsed passageway between city hall offices and a market, according to a municipal police officer who was guarding the site. The officer declined to give his name because he was not officially authorized to give information to reporters.
The city’s civil defence co-ordinator, Jose Antonio Marin Lopez, said similar searches had been going on all over the area.
Teams found bodies in the rubble, but the highlight was pulling four people, including two children, alive from the completely collapsed Hotel Del Rio, where one woman died.
“The priority continues to be the people,” Marin said.
Larissa Garcia Ruiz was grateful to escape with only a broken arm when her house collapsed as she and her family slept.
“I only woke up when I heard screaming,” said the 24-year-old cradling her wrapped arm.
Her mother managed to push the daughters and her blind husband through the back doorway before a massive section of thick wall fell, trapping her. As Larissa tried to help rescue her mother, another piece of rubble fell, breaking her arm. Other relatives and friends finally managed to release the trapped woman.
All around them people yelled for help that night. “Nobody helped us,” her sister Vicenta said. “Everybody got out as best they could.”
In addition to the deaths in Juchitan, the quake killed nine other people in Oaxaca and 19 in neighbouring states. Two others died in a mudslide in the Gulf coast state of Veracruz after Hurricane Katia hit late Friday.
Pena Nieto said authorities were working to re-establish supplies of water and food and provide medical attention to those who need it. He vowed the government would help rebuild.
Power was cut at least briefly to more than 1.8 million people due to the quake, and authorities closed schools in at least 11 states to check them for safety.
The Interior Department reported that 428 homes were destroyed and 1,700 were damaged just in Chiapas, the state closest to the epicenter.
Just one day later, Hurricane Katia hit land north of Tecolutla in Veracruz state, pelting the region with intense rains and maximum sustained winds of 75 mph (120) kph.
Veracruz Gov. Miguel Angel Yunes said two people died in a mudslide related to the storm, and he said some rivers had risen to near flood stage, but there were no reports of major damage.
More than 4,000 people evacuated parts of Veracruz and neighbouring Puebla states ahead of the storm’s arrival.
The Hurricane Center said Katia could still bring 3 to 6 inches (7.5 to 15 centimetres) of additional rain to a region with a history of deadly mudslides and flooding.
Associated Press writers Peter Orsi and Mark Stevenson in Mexico City contributed to this report.
'We are all collapsed, our homes and our people'; Earthquake-hit Mexico pounded
I know Juchitan of old a shithole if ever I saw one full of some of the unfriendliest most argumentative disagreeable people in Mexico and that's just the women.
Actually the whole Isthmus of Tehuantepec is like that don't bother visiting there's nothing to see just keep on driving.
Actually the whole Isthmus of Tehuantepec is like that don't bother visiting there's nothing to see just keep on driving.
That's understandable, sometimes what you see in other people is just a reflection of what they see when taking a look at you.
Have a good day.
Unlike you I have lived in Mexico and speak the language fluently-also quite unlike you I know what I'm talking about.
I remember my first rip through the area in '84 signs of the nasty short lived 'rebellion' of 1980 were still fresh with scorch marks on buildings and bullet holes on the walls even the anti gov't slogans hadn't been cleaned up and the place was tense the mood nasty & sullen that has never changed and never will change.
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Weather, according to Henrik Svensmark, runs parallel to the Sun’s coronal mass ejections (CMEs) but earthquakes in most cases, correspond to sunspot minimums. Sunspots are those little black spots on the Sun (each spot as big as the Earth) out of which solar flares and CMEs leap towards Earth. During high solar activity, the electric Birkeland currents connecting the Sun and Earth charge up, exciting Earth’s buried Telluric current circuitry. When, as in around every eleven years, the number of Sun spots drop off to nearly zero the Earth reacts. Then the stored electric energy discharges. Tremendous forces are released from the Earth’s circuitry. Result? Earthquakes attended by violent lightning storms and winds!
For instance, during the “Maunder Minimum” there was a period from 1640 AD to 1710 AD of no sunspots. Messina and Catania in this time were totally destroyed by earthquakes. Coincidence? Deadly earthquakes abound in history. Antioch 523BC (death toll 250,000), Sicily 1646 AD and 1693 AD (death toll 150,000), Jamaica 1693 AD, Lisbon 1755 AD and Shaanksi, China 1558 AD (death toll 850,000) to name a few.
Currently, major earthquakes are centered around the rings of fire where the worlds volcanic activity occurs. Yes, volcanoes, earthquakes and tsunamis are related! But will the earthquake hot spots remain confined to these grids? Governor Latrobe maintained that Melbourne’s history says NO! Changing electromagnetic astronomical influences may unexpectedly throw tectonic plate theory into chaos!
Peter Mungo Jupp http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2013/07/29/earthquake-storms-and-the-electric-sun-2/
For instance, during the “Maunder Minimum” there was a period from 1640 AD to 1710 AD of no sunspots. Messina and Catania in this time were totally destroyed by earthquakes. Coincidence? Deadly earthquakes abound in history. Antioch 523BC (death toll 250,000), Sicily 1646 AD and 1693 AD (death toll 150,000), Jamaica 1693 AD, Lisbon 1755 AD and Shaanksi, China 1558 AD (death toll 850,000) to name a few.
Currently, major earthquakes are centered around the rings of fire where the worlds volcanic activity occurs. Yes, volcanoes, earthquakes and tsunamis are related! But will the earthquake hot spots remain confined to these grids? Governor Latrobe maintained that Melbourne’s history says NO! Changing electromagnetic astronomical influences may unexpectedly throw tectonic plate theory into chaos!
Peter Mungo Jupp http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2013/07/29/earthquake-storms-and-the-electric-sun-2/
Really? I had quite an enjoyable time in Oaxaca when i was there and the Zapotec people there were very friendly to me.
Whose gawd? Yours or the real one?
More people die of starvation every day in Africa but the US press isn't there. Neither are white people.
Nobody cares about anything important nowadays.
People only care about what the media wants them to read, and most are too lazy to do any searching by themselves
For example:
This article came out today and its near the bottom of the CBC homepage, and as a result only has 38 comments
Return to basic skills first step to fixing Ontario's math problem, teachers say - Toronto - CBC News
This next article on the other hand is near the top, came out today and has 300+ comments than the first article, which i consider more important to read.
New safety rules aim at 'phantom vehicles' running at night without lights - Politics - CBC News
My guess is that you never spent much time in the Isthmus of Tehuantepec did you?
Places like Salina Cruz, Ixtepec, Tehuantepec, and Juchitan are nothing like the tourist towns of Puerto Escondido and Huatulco.
That mini hurricane off the coast should be sitting above a local hot-spot that may not have gotten it's heating from the sun. The whole area a is a mess as far as expanding cracks go. The crust would be it's thinnest where the water is the deepest.
The earthquake occurred all of a sudden and then it went, while the hurricane caused the devastation or at least the disturbance of a whole state with millions of people fleeing out. Do you imagine yourself going in a car with the family running in panic and leaving property and towns as ghost towns: the whole state (with its 20 millions or so) was doomed .. eventhough none is killed in the storm.
Don't sell me short! I spent about 6 hours in Tiajuana once about 49 years ago. (On every corner there was a hooker talking to a cop)
I spent a month working in Oaxaca State staying in a little town along the highway, cant remember the name. I worked at one of the open pit gold mines and aside from the odd crazy Mezcal farmer in the hills everything was alright.
I did have the treat of seeing all the cars from the Pan-Americano Race go by, that was cool
Looks like you had a bad experience. In 1972 I drove from Ciudad Juarez to Merida and back again without encountering anyone but friendly people.