The RCMP and government adopt EVs as winter performance concerns emerge

[The_Foxer]

The RCMP and government adopt EVs as winter performance concerns emerge

This month, the RCMP unveiled the Tesla Model Y as the first EV to be added to the Mounties’ vehicle fleet, with tests of the electric Ford Mustang Mach-E and the Ford F-150 coming soon.

tnc.news

However, a study published in late 2022 found that many EVs have problems maintaining expected performance. It estimates a significant drop in the amount of miles-per-charge EV batteries can sustain.


The study found disparities between vehicles in their ability to withstand cold weather conditions, with cars like the Jaguar I-Pace only losing 3% of its range, while the Ford Mustang Mach-E lost 30% of its range.

So this should end well.....

 

[petros]

The only solution is half-breeds. But Id assume these are for urban Mounties and not rural patrol.

 

[Ron in Regina]

So will the RCMP just use these EV’s for 1/3 of each shift, & then switch to an ICE vehicle for the last 2/3rds of their shift while the EV is charging?

I can imagine a high speed chase (instant power!!) but not endurance. Part way through a chase, they’d yank into a Tesla fast charger (& assuming it’s functional) in a quick 30 minutes they’d have enough of a charge to catch up to the chase again?

 

[petros]

Half-breeds. No choice.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Half-breeds. No choice.

So not EV & not ICE. The worst of both but the functional compromise? How would a Half-Breed be in an extended high speed chase?

 

[petros]

Half-breeds (hybrids) run a genny off an ICE when batteries are pooched.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Half-breeds (hybrids) run a genny off an ICE when batteries are pooched.

Yeah, what size of generator are you describing with respect to a police chase? With the weight of the EV batteries already I’m assuming it can’t be anything more than a four-cylinder so maybe at 2 L generator at most? I’m just guessing at the numbers here….

And I’m not picturing S2000 2L but low compression constant afterthought power?

 

[petros]

More than enough amps to charge and run flat out on the electric motors.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Hillbilly Hybrid: An EV pickup with a gasoline-powered generator in the bed to charge the batteries.

 

[The_Foxer]

I can imagine a high speed chase (instant power!!) but not endurance. Part way through a chase, they’d yank into a Tesla fast charger (& assuming it’s functional) in a quick 30 minutes they’d have enough of a charge to catch up to the chase again?

Even as we speak there's a bunch of criminals drawing 31 - minute radius circles around all the tim hortons and dreaming of happier days to come...

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

Hybirds also charge the batteries while running on gas too. Less time at a charging station. But that does stray from the dogma.

 

[Ron in Regina]

More than enough amps to charge and run flat out on the electric motors.

There are some fast Hybrids out there:

The 10 Fastest Accelerating Hybrid Cars From 0-60 MPH​

1. 2018 Acura RLX Sport Hybrid SH-AWD - 4.9 seconds
2. 2019 Volvo S60 T8 Polestar - 4.5 seconds
3. 2019 Mercedes-AMG CLS 53 4matic+ - 4.1 seconds
4. 2015 BMW i8 - 3.8 seconds
5. 2018 Porsche Panamera 4 E-Hybrid Sport Turismo - 3.7 seconds
6. 2017 Acura NSX - 3.1 seconds
7. 2018 Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid Sport Turismo - 2.8 seconds
8. 2014 McLaren P1 - 2.6 seconds
9. 2015 Porsche 918 Spyder - 2.4 seconds
10. None of the above are on the procurement list for the RCMP in the new story in the OP Link.

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[petros]

Half-breeds are the best choice. No charge station at home, no lining up at commercial chargers, no travel time lost to charging, no range issues, no temperature issues, no performance loss, commutes and beer runs can be 100% electric and longer battery life.

My next vehicle will be a half-breed.

 

[The_Foxer]

Half-breeds are the best choice. No charge station at home, no lining up at commercial chargers, no travel time lost to charging, no range issues, no temperature issues, no performance loss, commutes and beer runs can be 100% electric and longer battery life.

My next vehicle will be a half-breed.

It just makes sense. I don't understand the gov'ts push to all electric vehicles,. Plug in hybrids would deliver about 90 percent of the benefit with about 10 percent of the pain of conversion. You would still get the average driver spending most if not all of their day on battery, but you don't need the massive charging infrastructure, the car industry needs a quarter of the batteries (or less), and people don't have to radically change their lifestyles to accomodate it so there's faster buy in. They should be pushing that tech, not full electrics. .

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I don't understand the gov'ts push to all electric vehicles,.

This is complex, so try to follow along. I'll be as clear as I can. . .

True Dope.

Did that help?

 

[harrylee]

Hillbilly Hybrid: An EV pickup with a gasoline-powered generator in the bed to charge the batteries.

With working a/c.......

 

[The_Foxer]

This is complex, so try to follow along. I'll be as clear as I can. . .

True Dope.

Did that help?

No. This is a little more complex. It's not just the federal gov'ts who have been pushing it. And many so called environmental groups have echoed the same thing.

 

[Ron in Regina]

With working a/c.......

We (our companies drivers) see this a lot…

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

No. This is a little more complex. It's not just the federal gov'ts who have been pushing it. And many so called environmental groups have echoed the same thing.

Precisely. The "environmentalists" are a significant voting bloc, and their squishy supporters probably an even larger one.

It's Mom's apple pie. Anybody who asks "Is this the best way to achieve what we all agree is a desirable goal?" can be shouted down as a land-rapist with the same enthusiasm we used on "communists."

Tribalism is by definition fact- and reasoning-free. It's pure usuns v. themmuns. Ferfucksake, "Be True To Your School" inspires loyalty to a government institution to which you were forced to go, without choice (or with minimum choice). It makes as much sense as "Be True To Your Prison" (which, pathetically enough, many cons actually do!).

Most people would rather scream than think. Heck, most people would rather DIE than think.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Precisely. The "environmentalists" are a significant voting bloc, and their squishy supporters probably an even larger one.

It's Mom's apple pie. Anybody who asks "Is this the best way to achieve what we all agree is a desirable goal?" can be shouted down as a land-rapist with the same enthusiasm we used on "communists."

Tribalism is by definition fact- and reasoning-free. It's pure usuns v. themmuns. Ferfucksake, "Be True To Your School" inspires loyalty to a government institution to which you were forced to go, without choice (or with minimum choice). It makes as much sense as "Be True To Your Prison" (which, pathetically enough, many cons actually do!).

Most people would rather scream than think. Heck, most people would rather DIE than think.

It's pipelines all over again. Least leakage per liter-kilometer transported. Yet the people who profess to hate leakage prefer the riskier methods. Because they're stuck on the utterly illogical (and disastrous) absolutist position of "end all fossil fuels today!" The ultimate revenge would be to give them their wish. Sadly, that would be equally hard on the revenger.